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Posted by JohnWallace44:

Isiah seems to be building an ultra physical team with the last few picks and aquisitions. Craw', like Frye, does not fit that mold. So if we have to get rid of one, I guess its him. Nate though, has to get up on people when he's defending if he is going to fit.

I can see Chandler and Q playing at the 2 for us and when Mardy is on the floor, that's a huge physical lineup. I don't really care how soft Eddy and Zach are on D, this team as a whole is going to wear opponents out.

I disagree if anything Isiah has long plans for Jamal. Isiah brought in 3 players that already have a connection with Jamal. Nate his HS friend. Curry his friend from Chitown. Q is one of Jamal's best from around the league. Right now Jamal is the best passer on the team plain and simple. Nate does not play defense at all. Nate never fight through picks. Jamal atleast guards point guards while Marbury guards shooting guards.

If people think that Nate has more of the future on this team than Jamal then I don't know what to say. This is the same Isiah that flip out when Jamal got injuried. Do people even think Isiah even cares if Nate got injuried or is even on this team?

Nate knows his days are getting numbered. This is the main reason why he is at summer league. Their have been people inside the MSG that have said that Isiah and Nate's relationship was not good at all. Now people believe that Nate is going to be here for the long run?

When Q went down Isiah had no reaction to the media, yet when Jamal went down he said he would love to have a copy of him on the court.

If anything, Isiah is looking for replacement for Q. And again Q shoots the same shooting precentage as Jamal career wise. Q also can not play the 2 guard well. Q playing the 2 is one of the main reasons he get's injury most of the time. Q is sf. This is why Q said he has to fight for starting position when the season starts because we already have Jamal, Marbury, Zach, and Curry as starters. The sf positon is up in the air.

bigc, how would you use jamal on this team? starter? 6th man? point guard?

With the team we have now I would start him at the 1. If you look at all the point guards around the league you will notice that they all have 2 turnovers a game. Which is what Jamal averages 2 turnovers a game for a guy that played 37 minutes last year. The only pg guards that average more than 2 TO a game are Gilbert Arenas who TO's the ball over 4 times a game. Billups, Kidd, all have more turnovers than Jamal. Luke Ridnour plays only 29 minutes and gets 2 TO's a game. Jamal plays 37 minutes and only has 2 TO. That means Jamal has good ball control. Wade get's 4 TO a game. So what is going to happen so terrible if Jamal starts at the pg?

Jamal has to start on this team because he is the only real playmarker on this team. Marbury is a better fit playing the 2. Now we have Zach and Curry you have to have someone be the facilitator while the other players score. There is no one else that can do that on the team. Jamal playing the pg will give other point guards hell.

I would not have Jamal be the 6th man for this team. On other teams around the league he is a 6th man. However this is the New York Knicks.

We have tried Q 2 years in the row as our 2 guard and it has not worked. Q can only play 50 games. Why go through this idea that Jamal should come off the bench for a third year? Just so each year around January Jamal becomes the starter and Q get's injuried. Start Jamal at the beginning of the year with Marbury and let's see where they go.

Herb Williams got Jamal and Marbury to win 34 games with injuries to both players in the backcourt together and that was with worse talent. I think if you have Jamal and Marbury in the backcourt you will get better results . If our roster was different Jamal would be a backup and I would have traded Marbury.

But he averaged those 2.75 turn overs per game not playing the PG primarialy.

I'd rather have Crawford start for this team than Marbury- if the poll was who should we go with, Crawford or Marbury- I'm picking crawford.

I wonder if the Clippers would be interested in Crawford?

The majority of times the ball was in Jamal and Marbury's hands. Wade does not play primarily pg however he get's 4 TO's a game.

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Posted by JohnWallace44:

Isiah seems to be building an ultra physical team with the last few picks and aquisitions. Craw', like Frye, does not fit that mold. So if we have to get rid of one, I guess its him. Nate though, has to get up on people when he's defending if he is going to fit.

I can see Chandler and Q playing at the 2 for us and when Mardy is on the floor, that's a huge physical lineup. I don't really care how soft Eddy and Zach are on D, this team as a whole is going to wear opponents out.

I disagree if anything Isiah has long plans for Jamal. Isiah brought in 3 players that already have a connection with Jamal. Nate his HS friend. Curry his friend from Chitown. Q is one of Jamal's best from around the league. Right now Jamal is the best passer on the team plain and simple. Nate does not play defense at all. Nate never fight through picks. Jamal atleast guards point guards while Marbury guards shooting guards.

If people think that Nate has more of the future on this team than Jamal then I don't know what to say. This is the same Isiah that flip out when Jamal got injuried. Do people even think Isiah even cares if Nate got injuried or is even on this team?

Nate knows his days are getting numbered. This is the main reason why he is at summer league. Their have been people inside the MSG that have said that Isiah and Nate's relationship was not good at all. Now people believe that Nate is going to be here for the long run?

When Q went down Isiah had no reaction to the media, yet when Jamal went down he said he would love to have a copy of him on the court.

If anything, Isiah is looking for replacement for Q. And again Q shoots the same shooting precentage as Jamal career wise. Q also can not play the 2 guard well. Q playing the 2 is one of the main reasons he get's injury most of the time. Q is sf. This is why Q said he has to fight for starting position when the season starts because we already have Jamal, Marbury, Zach, and Curry as starters. The sf positon is up in the air.

bigc, how would you use jamal on this team? starter? 6th man? point guard?

With the team we have now I would start him at the 1. If you look at all the point guards around the league you will notice that they all have 2 turnovers a game. Which is what Jamal averages 2 turnovers a game for a guy that played 37 minutes last year. The only pg guards that average more than 2 TO a game are Gilbert Arenas who TO's the ball over 4 times a game. Billups, Kidd, all have more turnovers than Jamal. Luke Ridnour plays only 29 minutes and gets 2 TO's a game. Jamal plays 37 minutes and only has 2 TO. That means Jamal has good ball control. Wade get's 4 TO a game. So what is going to happen so terrible if Jamal starts at the pg?

Jamal has to start on this team because he is the only real playmarker on this team. Marbury is a better fit playing the 2. Now we have Zach and Curry you have to have someone be the facilitator while the other players score. There is no one else that can do that on the team. Jamal playing the pg will give other point guards hell.

I would not have Jamal be the 6th man for this team. On other teams around the league he is a 6th man. However this is the New York Knicks.

We have tried Q 2 years in the row as our 2 guard and it has not worked. Q can only play 50 games. Why go through this idea that Jamal should come off the bench for a third year? Just so each year around January Jamal becomes the starter and Q get's injuried. Start Jamal at the beginning of the year with Marbury and let's see where they go.

Herb Williams got Jamal and Marbury to win 34 games with injuries to both players in the backcourt together and that was with worse talent. I think if you have Jamal and Marbury in the backcourt you will get better results . If our roster was different Jamal would be a backup and I would have traded Marbury.

would you say our next major move should be an upgrade in the backcourt?

Without a doubt.