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MaTT4281
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7/13/2007  9:27 PM
Anything Nate can do to pump up his trade value, the better. I like Nate, but we have no room for him. His biggest use right now is as a young, cheap, TRADEABLE asset.
I'd feel better with Steph/Jamal/Mardy all running the team before Nate, and I'd rather slide Q down to the 2 and make playing time for guys like Balkman/Chandler/Nichols.

Maybe you can find someone useful for him, or hell, use Nate to dump one of our junk contracts.
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7/14/2007  2:37 AM
This was the thread I was expecting to see from you BRIGGS after the last SL game. I don't think the way he is playing is much related to "competition" either. It's HOW he is playing, especially in terms of court vision. I don't recall him making the kinds of passes he has been converting/attempting now over the past 2 years.

[Edited by - PresIke on 07-14-2007 02:39 AM]
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7/14/2007  2:41 AM
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by BigSm00th:

i'm pretty sure maciej lampe didn't light up summer league (but i could be wrong). i remember a few 13-8 games, certainly not lighting it up though.

Here's a list of players who have gone off a game or two offensively or defensively in Summer League play


Shammond Williams
Travis Outlaw
Marcus Banks scored 42 against Cleveland
Martell Webster
John Lucas
Alex Acker
Tony Allen
Casey Jacobsen
Maurice Ager
Sean May
Mbenga
Quentel MOTHA FN WOODS
Borchardt

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 07-13-2007 2:30 PM]

Why isn't Dwight Howard, David Lee, Paul Pierce, Kobe Bryant and Barbosa on your list just to name a few? Where's Montae Ellis, Al Jefferson or Brandon Roy? LOL.


I looked high and low far and wide actually I think Dwight Howard had some good games himself.


Bottom line we have quite a few here that are DESPERATE JOCK STRAP RIDING FANS and nothing more.

As if hating on every single thing Isiah and Knicks is a somehow superior position...

Anyhow, way to oversimplify fans who simply want to see the team succeed. God forbid a FAN(ATIC) of a sports team would have any interest in doing so.
[Edited by - PresIke on 07-14-2007 02:41 AM]

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7/14/2007  2:57 AM
Posted by PresIke:

This was the thread I was expecting to see from you BRIGGS after the last SL game. I don't think the way he is playing is much related to "competition" either. It's HOW he is playing, especially in terms of court vision. I don't recall him making the kinds of passes he has been converting/attempting now over the past 2 years.

[Edited by - PresIke on 07-14-2007 02:39 AM]

Im thrilled with the way the guys have played--the passing the defense the shooting rebounding--but if you took nate off of this roster and put in one of our scrub PGs things would look much different. That is why Nate deserves a lot of praise--as do the other main players who have been great and morris good.
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7/14/2007  12:32 PM
I don't mean this as a good thing or a bad thing or a dig at either player.... but Nate's summer league play reminds me exactly of marbury's play only in a smaller body.

Shooting guards who need to and/or wanted to play PG.
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7/14/2007  1:05 PM
Yeah, but all you want out of Nate is to have some point guards so he isn't just a scorer when he is in the game and for small stretches when guys are getting rest. Marbury plays 30 plus minutes a game so it is definitely a knock on him.
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7/14/2007  1:59 PM
nate's a....dare i say...."playa" in summer league. i hope he keeps it up. he had 10ast. the other day.
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7/14/2007  2:05 PM
hahahahahahahaha.........................................

Quick, let's get Sweetney back. We all know SL studs are destined for greatness.

Anyway, giving the Nate the benefit of the doubt (and ignoring a ridiculous claim), if he worked on his game--specifically his matador defense, doesn't turn the ball over and gets more assists... he'll be a valuable asset. But that's a TON of things that need MASSIVE improvement.
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7/14/2007  3:48 PM
I don't see how NAte is getting so much credit in people's eyes. This is SL and Nate is a third year player. He better be putting up solid numbers because right now the competition is vastly inferior to a third year pro player. This reminds me of Bo Outlaw going off for 40+ points per game in SL.
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7/14/2007  3:52 PM
Because the point of the Nates play, has nothing to do with his POINTS.
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7/14/2007  5:02 PM
We act here, as if we're the Spurs. A stable organization with solid veterans. Our roster, coaches, front office has been in flux for 5+ years.. in front of the biggest media stage in the world. I would expect a player, that doesn't get consistent minutes, to take longer to develop. Now that things are consistent and settled.. I would think guys like Nate will thrive. We need to trade someone to make room, however.
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7/14/2007  5:25 PM
how dare anybody get excited about knicks playing well in summer league.

PECIMISM AND NEGATIVITY ALL THE TIME! you are right trueblue, THAT is really awesome.

quit wasting your time if you don't like the knicks, this is so mind boggling, why do you guys care so much? did isiah swoop on your girlfriend or something? i've never come across a) such blatant anti-homerism (if there is such a thing) and b) such redunant, inane, baseless hating on EVERYTHING.

"nate is playing well in summer league, playing PG well" - briggs

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yea whatever dude i like the knicks HENCE my posting on a motherf-ing knicks message board.
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7/14/2007  5:33 PM
Posted by BigSm00th:

how dare anybody get excited about knicks playing well in summer league.

PECIMISM AND NEGATIVITY ALL THE TIME! you are right trueblue, THAT is really awesome.

quit wasting your time if you don't like the knicks, this is so mind boggling, why do you guys care so much? did isiah swoop on your girlfriend or something? i've never come across a) such blatant anti-homerism (if there is such a thing) and b) such redunant, inane, baseless hating on EVERYTHING.

"nate is playing well in summer league, playing PG well" - briggs

"EVERYBODY PLAYS WELL IN SUMMER LEAGUE BRIGGS!!!!!! HERE ARE A LIST OF 30 GUYS WHO PLAYED WELL AND ARENT SHIT!!!! DOWN WITH ISIAH!!!! STUPID ROSE COLORED FANS" -- true blue

yea whatever dude i like the knicks HENCE my posting on a motherf-ing knicks message board.


very well said....
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7/14/2007  11:45 PM
Posted by tkf:
Posted by BigSm00th:

how dare anybody get excited about knicks playing well in summer league.

PECIMISM AND NEGATIVITY ALL THE TIME! you are right trueblue, THAT is really awesome.

quit wasting your time if you don't like the knicks, this is so mind boggling, why do you guys care so much? did isiah swoop on your girlfriend or something? i've never come across a) such blatant anti-homerism (if there is such a thing) and b) such redunant, inane, baseless hating on EVERYTHING.

"nate is playing well in summer league, playing PG well" - briggs

"EVERYBODY PLAYS WELL IN SUMMER LEAGUE BRIGGS!!!!!! HERE ARE A LIST OF 30 GUYS WHO PLAYED WELL AND ARENT SHIT!!!! DOWN WITH ISIAH!!!! STUPID ROSE COLORED FANS" -- true blue

yea whatever dude i like the knicks HENCE my posting on a motherf-ing knicks message board.


very well said....

Very very well said..true blue is getting old and his posts are truely tired.
It's time to change your tune.
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7/14/2007  11:46 PM
BTW...nate, another strong game tonight.
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7/15/2007  7:48 AM
Posted by martin:

I don't mean this as a good thing or a bad thing or a dig at either player.... but Nate's summer league play reminds me exactly of marbury's play only in a smaller body.

Shooting guards who need to and/or wanted to play PG.

I can see some of what you're saying, martin, although Nate seems better at running breaks than Steph, who is better in the half court.
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7/15/2007  8:25 AM
Do most teams have third year players in summer league games?
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7/15/2007  9:19 AM
Posted by Ira:

Do most teams have third year players in summer league games?

the team we played yesterday had a bunch of 25+ year olds.
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7/15/2007  9:21 AM
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by Ira:

Do most teams have third year players in summer league games?

the team we played yesterday had a bunch of 25+ year olds.

And at least one 32 year old
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7/15/2007  11:05 AM
Posted by Ira:

Do most teams have third year players in summer league games?

I don't think it's all that common, although I believe Ron Artest played summer league a few years back. Sure, Nate is more experienced than most other players (although quite a few have played for years in other pro leagues) but for all who complain about dedication of players, clearly Nate is trying to improve himself as a player and see how it would work with his future teammates against competition.

My sense is that the competition level is not as significant of a factor as one can observe a significant difference in the way Nate is playing in SL versus on the Knicks the past 2 seasons. Some who are ranting about players who had big SL performances and were busts, seem to feel as if SL is always meaningless, which is a gross oversimplification. If that is the case then why does the NBA bother having it at all? The negative perspective is so tired and cliche at this point that how can one have any kind of perspective if all one does is go on about the (possible) bad side of things? In terms of Nate, this is not to say he will suddenly turn out 20 points and 8 assists this year, but he looks like he has a much better shot of contributing more value to the team on the floor, and perhaps to other teams, than the last two seasons. It may be that he doesn't improve much next year but I think to deny a difference in his play (unless some of you haven't watched the SL games) is to deny observable evidence as if that has no value in judging a players potential.
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