Posted by TheGame:

Bottom line, Randolph is a better player than Frye is likely to become in the next 3-4 years. IT realized it and cut bait. IMO it was a smart move.

It does not mean that Frye does not have game, he just was not likely to develop into the type of scorer that Randolph is or if he does, he was not likely to do it within the next 2-3 years and IT is in the win now mode.

[Edited by - thegame on 07-09-2007 9:57 PM]

Posted by TrueBlue:

Posted by TheGame:

Bottom line, Randolph is a better player than Frye is likely to become in the next 3-4 years. IT realized it and cut bait. IMO it was a smart move.

It does not mean that Frye does not have game, he just was not likely to develop into the type of scorer that Randolph is or if he does, he was not likely to do it within the next 2-3 years and IT is in the win now mode.

[Edited by - thegame on 07-09-2007 9:57 PM]

Based on what?..... Cause you said so?

Sorry you're going to have to insert another Token if you want to continue playing. GAME OVER!!!!!

Posted by nixluva:

So what is it you guys are actually trying to say? Isiah can't judge talent or he can and gave up a lot in Frye? I'm having trouble figuring out which argument you're all making.

I said it before and you guys still haven't gotten it. Trading Frye doesn't mean that he stinks. If Isiah felt he could get a player that fit our current situation better then that is a smart move. What do you propose that a GM never trades any of his high draft picks? That's just stupid. If another team feels he has value for what they want to do, then by all means make a trade for a guy you feel has better value for what you are doing. There was really no way to guarantee that Frye or any draft pick we made will work out here. The jury is still out on Nate and whether he'll fit into what we're doing. This doesn't mean he's not talented. It's about the right fit. Some guys can't make the adjustment in their game to fit every situation. Some guys will only thrive in the right conditions. That's almost impossible to determine at the start. When you're picking talent in a draft continued development is always a part of the evaluation, but there's no guarantee.

I don't care how strongly Isiah felt about Frye, that is all relative to the OTHER PLAYER IN THAT DRAFT! That has nothing to do with comparing him with all other NBA players. He said he'd take him 1st in that draft. He didn't say that he'd take him over Zach or any other good NBA player.

Posted by TheGame:

Posted by Anji:

Posted by TheGame:

Posted by Anji:

Funny stuff, love the Wilson Chandler part............



Random war room guy "Zeke, you wanna trade down and pick a second rounder. Alot of good talent fall today and we are targeting a second rounder nobody got to workout. Mardy has bad knees at 22, marbury has bad knees, you should cosider picking up Jordan or Pruitt"

Zeke "Nan I'm good.............."

LOL. People said the same about Balkman last year, but the bottomline for me is can the guy play. I heard talk that there were some teams interested in drafting Chandler in the first round. Who knows if that is true or not but apparently IT thought there was enough truth to the rumors to pick CHandler where he did.

The funnier thing is Balkman earned Isiah's respect and could have been picked by another team by putting his talents against other players in the draft in Orlando and in workouts. This Kid did none of that and is a striate ego pick.

Can't defend what just happened in this draft.
Nobody saw chandler in a strong draft and Balkman was the MVP of Orlando in a weak draft.
You had 8-10 Big college talent on the board and last year Marcus Williams was really the only player with top 15 talent on the board.
Two different Drafts, can't make the same excuses!!!!!!!

If i'm correct Isiah really wanted the kid from Memphis last year Williams, and I think that's who he thinks he is picking.

Yeah, but unlike Balkman, Chandler was considered a guy who could be a lottery pick next year. Moreover, there were some news reports of teams considering taking him in the first round. In fact several teams expressed frustration that they could not work the guy out. Really, CHandler was more likely to get drafted in the first round than Balkman was last year. Chandler is more of a scorer than Balkman and was a more highly rated prospect. Bottomline, the only player I really thought we should have gotten who was still available was Almond. If Chandler outplays Almond, then I cannot say it was bad pick. Now I have some doubts whether that will happen, but I am willing to give IT the benefit of the doubt.

Portland clearly didn't think Frye was "nothing". They are going to be paying Franchise to play somewhere else the next two years and gave up two ending contracts along with Z-Bo with Channing representing the only positive return.

And just to keep things straight here, the Lakers aren't so high on Bynum either

Posted by nyk4ever:
If Kobe weren't bitching, there would be absolutely no Bynum trade talks.

Posted by RemBee76:

Posted by nyk4ever:
If Kobe weren't bitching, there would be absolutely no Bynum trade talks.

Right, if the Lakers didn't care about winning they would keep Bynum. A ringing endorsement.

Want to know what Phil Jackson thinks of Bynum?

After averaging almost 30 minutes through January and February he gets 20 minutes in March, 17 in April and 13 in the playoffs. I think his opinion of the young man is pretty clear.

Word is now that Bynum is no longer untouchable and can be moved in the right deal. Kinda a lot like Frye, which is how this all started, right?

You're whole entire post is based on nothing but you're own speculation.

So Phil Jackson stopped playing a 19 year old kid as the playoffs came closer - what a revelation, that NEVER happens in the NBA. I mean you never see that.

Where is that word coming from? Oh wait I know, that word is coming from Kobe Bryant who wants to win now and the only piece the Lakers have to offer is their extremely taleneted big man. How else are they going to get a franchise caliber player back to team with Kobe? You make it sound like the Lakers should be trading Kobe instead of Bynum.

I sincerely hope you don't believe whats coming from your own posts.

Posted by nyk4ever:
So Phil Jackson stopped playing a 19 year old kid as the playoffs came closer - what a revelation, that NEVER happens in the NBA. I mean you never see that.

Posted by djsunyc:
the difference is that his mistakes would cost other gm's jobs.

Posted by MS:

He has down a bad job there, but you have to look at Reggie retiring, Jermaine O'Neal was actually healthy, Artest hadn't gone nuts yet, and steven jackson wasn't starting shoot outs and going ape **** with artest into the stands.

GMs that rival isiah are McChale, Knight, Baylor, King, Ainge

And he didn't spend about half a billion dollars in future salary.