Posted by TheGame:

Posted by tkf:

thank god, let him destroy the magics cap, I wanted nothing to do with that guy and his salary demands....

The more these other GM's make moves, the more IT looks like a competent GM. He gets a 20/10 PF for players we did not want and avoids paying Lewis a max deal. There is no way Lewis is worth $75-$85 mil over 5 years. A fair deal for him would have been about $62 mil over 5 years.

Posted by BlueSeats:

Posted by TheGame:

Posted by tkf:

thank god, let him destroy the magics cap, I wanted nothing to do with that guy and his salary demands....

The more these other GM's make moves, the more IT looks like a competent GM. He gets a 20/10 PF for players we did not want and avoids paying Lewis a max deal. There is no way Lewis is worth $75-$85 mil over 5 years. A fair deal for him would have been about $62 mil over 5 years.

Assuming the deal is 5 years at 75M, as was originally reported, how is what Isiah did with Randolph better when he gives us 4 years at 61M, but with repaired knees and a trailer of baggage?

75/5 = 15M/yr
61/4 = 15.25/yr

Then you have to factor one team had cap space and the other didn't. You also have to take into consideration Orland could be players next yr in FA depending on what they do with their own FA.

Posted by Nalod:

IN reality, Orlando got the Cap room for Our expiring and Reezy.

So they in effect traded Francis and got Lewis and Reezy in return.

They can resign and Match Darko. Just depends on their cap management and if they want to go over.

Orlando might be playing it cool and if Darko signs elsewhere they can match. Or did they flat out renounce their rights??

Posted by TrueBlue:

Posted by Nalod:


Lewis got a market value deal. A team with cap room can afford to overpay as they have nothing to give up to get him. He came free.

Sounds like sour grapes around here. If Isiah could have, he would have gotten him here for similar money.

Isiahs 25 minutes with Tony Dutt cemented his decision.

ORlando really needed this guy and he compliments HOward very well. Is he worth 15mil a year? I don't think so, but I don't think Marbury is worth 20mil either.

Marbury the next 2yrs will make more than half of the recent contract Lewis just signed, yet we have NITWITS on here as usual exposing themselves over the displeasure in Orlando overpaying him.


Perfect example of what I've been trying to say this past week.

Posted by tkf:

Posted by BlueSeats:

Posted by TheGame:

Posted by tkf:

thank god, let him destroy the magics cap, I wanted nothing to do with that guy and his salary demands....

The more these other GM's make moves, the more IT looks like a competent GM. He gets a 20/10 PF for players we did not want and avoids paying Lewis a max deal. There is no way Lewis is worth $75-$85 mil over 5 years. A fair deal for him would have been about $62 mil over 5 years.

Assuming the deal is 5 years at 75M, as was originally reported, how is what Isiah did with Randolph better when he gives us 4 years at 61M, but with repaired knees and a trailer of baggage?

75/5 = 15M/yr
61/4 = 15.25/yr

with randolph knees he still managed 23/10, he is a better player than lewis, hands down, and he is younger. Trailer of baggage? ah, I am willing to give him a fair shot. sprewell had the same trail of baggage and he became a fan favorite here in NY...

I don't know that Randolph is hands down a better player, it really depends on a teams needs. The irony is that Zach might have been a better compliment to their team and Rashard to ours.

It's just always funny to see fans talk about other teams wildly overpaying while we do what we do. Not to pick a fight or anything, but I remember you declaring Phoenix nuts for giving Nash his deal, which is probably the best bargain in the league, and similarly laughing at GS for signing Fisher to the MLE, all while we're paying marbury 19M per year.

Anyway, the NBA is an expensive business and virtually every team is over paying for someone, I simply see no reason to hold Randolph up as an example of wise spending relative to Lewis. I see them both as B grade talent getting top dollar, and nobody makes more of those moves than Isiah. Nobody.

Posted by BlueSeats:

Posted by tkf:

Posted by BlueSeats:

Posted by TheGame:

Posted by tkf:

thank god, let him destroy the magics cap, I wanted nothing to do with that guy and his salary demands....

The more these other GM's make moves, the more IT looks like a competent GM. He gets a 20/10 PF for players we did not want and avoids paying Lewis a max deal. There is no way Lewis is worth $75-$85 mil over 5 years. A fair deal for him would have been about $62 mil over 5 years.

Assuming the deal is 5 years at 75M, as was originally reported, how is what Isiah did with Randolph better when he gives us 4 years at 61M, but with repaired knees and a trailer of baggage?

75/5 = 15M/yr
61/4 = 15.25/yr

with randolph knees he still managed 23/10, he is a better player than lewis, hands down, and he is younger. Trailer of baggage? ah, I am willing to give him a fair shot. sprewell had the same trail of baggage and he became a fan favorite here in NY...

I don't know that Randolph is hands down a better player, it really depends on a teams needs. The irony is that Zach might have been a better compliment to their team and Rashard to ours.

It's just always funny to see fans talk about other teams wildly overpaying while we do what we do. Not to pick a fight or anything, but I remember you declaring Phoenix nuts for giving Nash his deal, which is probably the best bargain in the league, and similarly laughing at GS for signing Fisher to the MLE, all while we're paying marbury 19M per year.

Anyway, the NBA is an expensive business and virtually every team is over paying for someone, I simply see no reason to hold Randolph up as an example of wise spending relative to Lewis. I see them both as B grade talent getting top dollar, and nobody makes more of those moves than Isiah. Nobody.

yea, I thought the suns gave nash to much money, but it proved to be the right thing to do. But I also remember that converstaion and I said that Jason terry might be a better replacement in dallas for nash because he can score and defend and that dallas might be a better team, and guess what? the mavs went to the finals with terry a place nash could never get them, so I was right in one sense and wrong in another, so I can live with that...

And Blue, golden state did grosly overpay for fisher, they did, that was a joke, come on, but what does marbury have to do with that? what does any knick player have to do with another player being overpaid? If you are in a bad marriage, can you not recognize and comment about another bad marriage? I don't think any knick fan thinks that marbury is not overpaid at this point in his career, but when marbury got that deal, he was one of the better players in the league, the suns gave him that deal, overpaying like I thought they did nash, but I don't see what lewis being overpaid has to do with any knick player? Lewis is overpaid, fine, that is orlando's problem now, I just think guys like lewis, redd, who don't quite do the things that the next level of players like vince and T-mac do, are getting that type of money and it is insane!

Posted by earthmansurfer:

Why did Seattle not try to trade him though?
They get nothing in return. Perhaps their were no good offers...