Posted by TMS:
Posted by Vmart:
Suppose if the KNicks got under the cap. What would the KNicks do they would look to get more talent via free agency. If that is the case they probably would have gone for players like LeBron, Kobe, Melo, KG, JO or Randolph. Whats the point of this getting under the cap if the players you want are available to them right now. There are enough peices there for the Knicks to get Kobe here it maybe slight but it would have been slight even if the Knicks were under the cap. And they already got Randolph. So if Isiah is getting this done without waiting two years in the pipeline I don't see what the problem is. I like what Isiah is doing and I think deep down a lot of people here like what he is doing but what I noticed about the Knicks fans is that they root for the individual players not the team.
i have no idea where you got that last observation from... everyone on this board roots for the team to succeed... we have differing views on how that success should be achieved though... just because i'm a Knicks fan doesn't mean i have to automatically sign off on this deal & be happy with adding a maxed out player who doesn't have maxed out value & doesn't address any of our biggest needs at this point... i personally think we would have found much better longterm success if we'd have just let Francis' contract expire rather than taking on Zach's deal... of course, this can all change IF Isiah makes another big splash move to get Kobe obviously, but unless that happens, i don't like this move because i think it follows right along on the same line of thinking that got Stephon Marbury & Steve Francis here to begin with, & history tells us neither of those moves have worked out in our favor... at some point, you have to learn from past mistakes, don't you?
Believe that people are hating on the Zach trade for two reason and only two reasons:
Forget the salary cap because once the KNicks got under it they were basically gonna add players very similar to Zach. The two resons is plain and very obvious to me, one I think people here don't want to see David Lee's minutes go down. I like most people love the game Lee brings but Lee won't be as good as Zach. Two, it has to do with Isiah making the deal some here do not want to like anything Isiah does. But thats just my opinion based on the posts that I read here. BUt I do not in anyway want to disrespect anyone in that reguard as I respect there thinking and it make for a better form.
Getting back to the salary cap I would love to have gotten under the cap too but I then realize its a good thing to be over the salary cap and it help that the Knicks are extremely over the cap. Just look at the Bulls they have been under the cap for quite sometime but damn man the best they did was an Aging Wallace. Look now and they can't even match salaries for a trade because it would cost them excess players and pretty much leave them with a shell of a team. The Knicks on the other hand can use these contract to their benefit and make numbers work in a most deals. My gut feeling says that Kobe will be a Knick by the first week of September. You know what it helps that the Bulls can't match salaries without losing their entire roster.
This ZBo trade was a great move by Isiah. Its a move in the right direction. Playoffs are going to be made and how far they go in the weak east. ECF might not be out of the question with the current roster.
Forget the salary cap for now if Kobe becomes a Knick it might be a great thing to be over the cap.
7/1/2007 3:25 PM