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Pharzeone
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6/28/2007  7:32 PM
But who will show us martial arts during a BB game.

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TMS
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6/28/2007  7:42 PM
Posted by Finestrg:
Posted by Swishfm3:

wow...I don't like that contract, but I like the player.

I am surprised that Portland is willing to give up Webster AND take Francis.

LOL!, That's what I'm saying Swish! You gotta at least think about this for a couple of reasons. Consider this:

(1) Zach's contract is awful (it's Dolan's money though, let's not forget) and it runs a total of 4 more seasons. Then he's off the books. Now in a perfect world with him and Webster joining some decent pieces we have in place here already, I'd hope that would be 4 years of deep playoff runs and making some noise in a subpar Eastern Conference. And say we don't do this - is everyone around here really confident we'll be in great shape cap-wise 4 years from now? I'm not. I mean how can you be? Not with all the pointless signings that we've seen around here recently like Jared Jeffries, Big Turd, etc... Bottom line is Zach's 20/10 every night (basically the player we all hope David Lee will become one day, skill/numbers-wise) and he's young - think he'll only be 26 or 27 this July. Barring injury, we're talkin' a guy that's currently in and will still be in his prime for the life of the contract. Like him or not, and I don't love him, he is one of the top power forwards in the game.
(2) Webster's gonna be a stud. We're talking the 6th overall pick in the 2005 draft (2 slots ahead of Frye). Shit, he might be better than Roy in the long run. A better scorer at least anyway. This is the shooter we've been looking for since Houston went down. I don't know about Zach playing next to Curry (but quite a few think Jermaine O'Neal would work with Curry, so isn't this kinda the same thing), but I KNOW FOR A FACT that Martell Webster would be perfect out there next to the big fella.
(3) What are we really giving up? Frye's been a disapointment so far (I really question whether this kid really has the fire in his belly to get better) and the rest would just be filler. I mean Steve Francis? Don't let the door hit you on the way out pal.

As long a Portland doesn't decide to get too greedy with us, I really consider this fellas, I'm sorry.

what we're giving up is any shot whatsoever of being under the cap in 2 years... which means no chance at all of getting legit franchise level superstars via free agency... for what? 4 years of Zach Randolph? i'll pass.
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Bonn1997
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6/28/2007  7:56 PM
People (including me) foolishly used the "look how little we're giving up" argument to justify the Francis trade. That doesn't work.
Allanfan20
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6/28/2007  8:02 PM
I never was a fan of Zach Randolf. Hated his character, and his defense is awful.
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Bonn1997
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6/28/2007  8:10 PM
He'd fit the Isiah type of player perfectly, though.
joec32033
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6/28/2007  8:12 PM
So does this mean that we are going to give up on defense all together?

Actually I don't mind the trade if it's Francis and Frye and we get back Webster. But it makes me feel like we have to trade for the top Defensive SF, SG and PG in the league.
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TMS
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6/28/2007  10:21 PM
so we're adding $61 million dollars in salary due to Zach Randolph over the next 4 seasons, & SAS is ranting about how Isiah was able to unload Steve Francis' contract, which is roughly about half contract wise in dollars & length of years???

then we throw in Channing Frye to get back 2 expiring contracts of Fred Jones & Dan Dickau, 2 young players who haven't done much of anything in the NBA since they were drafted themselves.

sorry if i don't jump up & down over this one... i would have much preferred to simply buy out Steve Francis & trade Frye in a deal to get Ron Artest... at least his deal expires the same season as Marbs, & he'd actually add a dimension to this team that we NEED.

oh brother... Zach Randolph is now a NY Knick... the 1 guy i would have thought Isiah would not be crazy enough to trade for, & he goes & does it.

[Edited by - TMS on 06-28-2007 10:22 PM]
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kam77
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6/28/2007  10:25 PM
TMS - you ain't heard? We need to have insurance in triplicate at every frontcourt position. And we do. This team has NO needs. We just sprinkled some toppings on our dessert. MMMMM. yum.
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6/28/2007  11:18 PM
Where's Nixluva with his comments about the Knicks cutting payroll??
Pharzeone
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6/28/2007  11:24 PM
Posted by joec32033:

So does this mean that we are going to give up on defense all together?

Actually I don't mind the trade if it's Francis and Frye and we get back Webster. But it makes me feel like we have to trade for the top Defensive SF, SG and PG in the league.

Balkman better increase his blocking next season. LOL, Chandler instantly become the 2nd best defender on this team.
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6/28/2007  11:28 PM
lmao.


channing is such a loveable nerd.
DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
Little Rumor Channing 4 Eddy Winslow

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