Why isn't it ok to dream?

Want to hear my dream? That same exact trade in the original post goes down. Kobe becomes a knick, and isiah laces the team with the perfect role players.

Here is the climax:

For the next 6 years the knicks meet the bulls in the playoffs and the knicks beat them every single time the bulls make the playoffs on route to 10 NBA championships in 15 years. At first kobe is the man then curry goes on a reign of terror where he totally dominates the league with his offensive game for 10 years. Curry retires at 37 and is a first candidate hall of famer. Curry's number goes up into the rafters. Surprisingly isiahs does too, since he was never fired during his term as knick president/GM.

Lmao. Marbury went on to coach the knick for the last 4 of the championships. Marbs also gets his name lifted up as a coach! Lmfao!

Kobe also retires a knick and his number also retired. He retired 10 years from now. Meaning curry got between 3-5 championships by himself!

Mmmwahahahhagaga!

While they may not get star power back. Crawford & Lee would provide fans.

What fans? Outside of Knick fans no one even hardly mentions these guys.

LOL, where's that kind of enthusiasm for our players???? The Nuggents 20plus picks are greater then Lee, Frye, Blakman, ect???

Huh?
What exactly is your point but to answer your question yes a bunch of picks in this draft are more valuable than Balkman, Frye, and Lee.

"Do you honestly think they would even consider giving up AI for almost nothing. They didn't even give an all-star caliber player nor would any of those guys who be picked at 20 plus or Andra Miller be considered players who have led what one might call explemary careers but yet the Sixers are going to pick up that phone and make a deal to send AI to Denver for what a ok point guard, or three 20 plus picks they would have to be retarded. If I were King for that kind of deal AI would stay in stay."

Okay simple translation about the Iverson Miller deal. Philly has a scoring point guard they went to the Finals with that scoring point guard and had numerous successes with that point guard. However that scoring point guard is still scoring but all those successes have stopped. The team is at a stand still. So voila another idea pops in the GM's head maybe I need a pass first point guard because maybe that will be more beneficial to our developing players. A simple change in direction if you didn't understand why the deal was made.

Sure on paper assists don't look as hot as scoring titles but sometimes changes need to be made. Philly received cap relief, draft picks, and a solid vetran leader. Hmm I guess your not familar with the Knicks cluster-**** otherwise referred to as their salary cap. Than of course there is that 9th pick that would be great in deal if we actually still had it. Vetran leadership I suppose Marbury will fill that role which he's done so well throughout his career.

Players demaning to be traded almos all ways end up as bad trades. No saying he is coming to the knicks, but don't act like 45 million brain Grant, pot head odom and a ok player in Butler isn't the deal that will probably land kobe. Of couse we have a chance..... Id say a good one if kobe is demanding to be traded.

Better yet the brilliant master mind who was able to bring Jerome James, Jared Jefferies, trade for Steve Francis, and trade away two unprotected lottery picks; yea he's the man to pull of a franchise changing deal such as fooling the Lakers into taking bad contracts and average to above average talent for the likes of an MVP like player.

Bring H2O out of retirement, move Kobe to the SF spot.

C = CURRY
PF = MORRIS
SF = KOBE
SG = H2O
PG = MARBS

Depends on who is left on the roster as far as a bench goes.

Bring back Ewing, Clyde, and Dollar Bill while you're at it.

Posted by bitty41:

[quote]While they may not get star power back. Crawford & Lee would provide fans.

What fans? Outside of Knick fans no one even hardly mentions these guys.

Crawford may get flack for not making playoffs and all that. But he draws fans with his crossovers, his scoring outputs, his clutch shots. Plus he is a good interviewer. He will draw fans. Lee will draw fans for whatever team he plays for because he rebounds the ball, he makes hustle plays, he can put up some highlight dunks with his athletism, and he is white. Crawford & Lee are cappable of putting on a show.

Kobe to Knicks? Could happen
posted: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 | Print Entry

The Kobe Bryant situation has been quiet for almost two weeks now, ever since Bryant and owner Jerry Buss spoke on the telephone and Buss released a statement expressing his desire to keep Bryant in a Lakers uniform.

Since Buss is now vacationing in China and is not due back for another week or so, expect things to stay quiet for a while longer.

One thing to keep in mind as this thing bubbles beneath the surface: Nobody except Buss and Bryant knows exactly what was said on their phone call, but a day earlier Buss had responded to Bryant's formal trade request -- which was made to general manager Mitch Kupchak by agent Rob Pelinka -- by issuing a public statement essentially saying he wanted to hear those words come out of Kobe's mouth.

So we don't really know with 100 percent certainty whether in his heart of hearts Bryant does or doesn't want out, although I'm hearing that the formal trade request remains on the table.

Now, if that trade request ever turns into a trade demand, there's a good case to be made that Kobe will end up with either the New York Knicks or Chicago Bulls.

Here's why, and how.

If Kobe really, truly wants out, the Lakers have almost no choice but to grant his wish.

Yes, they could play hardball with him and make him hold out when training camp arrives, but Kobe would then be holding the entire franchise hostage while he waited them out. He's the league's pre-eminent superstar, and he's not going to be pushed around.

He's also about as stubborn a person as the NBA has ever seen. Sometimes it serves him well, sometimes it doesn't. But he's stubborn. And if Jerry Buss plays poker against Kobe, he loses. And Jerry knows it.

"If I'm Mitch Kupchak, I'm looking right now to see where my leverage would be, and I'm not finding any," one NBA general manager told me.

A holdout would cost Bryant a lot of money and would be ruinous to all the image rehabilitation he's accomplished over the past year, but he'd make up for the financial loss many times over through his 15 percent trade kicker, and his image, as we've seen, is reparable no matter how bad things get.

So here's the next big thing: Kobe's no-trade clause.

Because Kobe can veto any trade, he can dictate where the Lakers must trade him by giving them a list of acceptable destinations. That is the power of the no-trade clause, and Kobe is the only guy in the league who has one.

Next you would look at where he might want to go -- and where the Lakers could accommodate him while still helping themselves.

I don't think Buss could live with trading Kobe to a Western Conference team and having him come into Staples to face the Lakers twice a year (and two times more to face the Clippers, plus, potentially, another set of visits in a playoff series vs. the Lakers), so I'm excising all West teams from my list of possibilities.

So we move to the East, and we look at where Kobe might want to play.

Philadelphia: One thought is Philly, because Kobe wants more than anything to be loved, and nowhere is he hated more than in his hometown (and nowhere would he be greeted as more of a hero). The problem is, it would take a minimum of Andre Miller and Andre Iguodala to get Kobe, and that would leave the Sixers with next to nothing other than Kobe. They've been down that path with Iverson, and anyway Kobe wants to win a championship.

Miami: Forget it. Not unless the Heat are giving up Dwyane Wade, which they aren't.

Atlanta: Too young. Years away from contending. Too far off the national radar.

Detroit: You never say never, especially after they looked old and done against Cleveland, but the market-size drop-off would be a problem for Kobe.

Boston: For Paul Pierce? Maybe, but they would still be far from a championship-level team, even with Bryant.

Chicago: This is the team I hear as one of the strongest possibilities, although its questionable whether John Paxson would be willing to gut the core of his team to get Bryant.

Paxson would probably have to start with Luol Deng and Ben Gordon, and perhaps Chris Duhon, and he would probably have to include a signed-and-traded Andres Nocioni or P.J. Brown to make the salaries work.

That would be an enormous amount for Paxson to surrender, especially given the way he has shaped the team's salary structure for the next 3-4 years.

New York: If Chicago is one of the logical places for Bryant to end up, that raises the question of which team could make a competing offer. That's where Knicks coach and president Isiah Thomas would come in.

I've known Isiah a long time, so trust me when I tell you he would go to the end of the earth and do whatever it takes to get a deal like this done. He wants his legacy to be something special in New York, and Kobe Bryant could help assure that. Furthermore, Bryant has previously expressed interest in lighting up Gotham.

As a trade partner, what the Knicks lack in quality, they have in quantity. In terms of volume, Isiah could overwhelm almost any other offer out there, starting with combo guard Jamal Crawford, rebounding machine David Lee, Knicks starting power forward Channing Frye, a pair of unprotected No. 1 picks (let's say 2008 and 2010) and sundry throw-ins, including Nate Robinson, Randolph Morris, Renaldo Balkman, et al.

Crawford can score 20 points a night, and he'll go prolific for you at least twice a month. Lee is a double-double man, and the most popular player on the Knicks, an energy guy who will easily play in the league for 10 more years if he stays healthy. He's far from a bum, and the same goes for Frye, who could start for the Lakers for the next seven seasons.

No, there's no superstar in here, but it's a lot of lumber. And if you're rebuilding, you need a cache of young talent. Lee, Frye and Robinson are still on their rookie contracts. Crawford has a reasonable long-term deal ($7.9 next season, with a contract that ends after he makes $10.08 million in 2010-11). The Lakers would actually have cap space, lots of it, after Lamar Odom's contract ends in the summer of '09.

Nothing, however, will happen unless Kobe forces Buss' hand. That hasn't happened yet, and it still might not happen if the Lakers can make a major deal to put some new talent around Kobe and placate him. Certainly we've all heard about the possibility of Jermaine O'Neal and/or other players joining Bryant in L.A.

But if that doesn't happen, I wouldn't be surprised if Kobe pipes up publicly again, this time demanding -- not requesting -- a trade.

And if that happens, I think he'll end up in Chicago or New York.

No matter how many times you go over the scenarios, it's a VERY likley chance that IF Buss has had it with Kobe, then NY has a real good shot. We don't have the sexy players, but that actually works in our favor, cuz we wouldn't be giving up any players that we can't win without. Chicago IMO won't want to completely shake up their roster like that and then still possibly be short a player or 2, necessary to make it all work.

The other thing is what can LA actually do to make Kobe happy? Would JO be enough to satisfy him and get that team over the hump against the Suns, Mavs and Spurs? I don't think so, since the Pacers are gonna want back some good young talent too. Possibly Bynum, Odom and a guard. It would seem that like other teams in the same situation, they don't have many real options to improve the team with Kobe. They'll have a better chance by using Kobe to get a lot of young talent and starting over. Get the picks from NY, lose big and draft high.

Kobe is officially on the block and his wishlist is the Bulls and Knicks. Isiah needs to do EVERYTHING and I mean EVERYTHING in his power to get Kobe, no matter what it takes. The trade Briggs mentions earlier in this thread should do it and then Isiah can use some vets with the MLE and I think you got something. Isiah, GET KOBE HERE.

Posted by islesfan:

It's too bad Isiah was too busy Starphucking all this time when he could have been collecting lottery picks since 2004. Maybe then we'd actually have players that other teams wanted to trade for.

Or we'd be a team like the bobcats that no one would want to come to.