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6/2/2007  4:48 PM
Posted by nixluva:

TrueBlue, Solace and Islesfan! The Larry, Moe and Curly of UK.

First of all, can I be the Larry?
Posted by nixluva:

I love how you guys twist everything to try to support your points and to make others look like they're being "irrational", "full of it" or that we have some kind of "gimmick". None of which is true, but as long as you all say it about me then it must be true. Just because i actually have a different point of view and i've defended that view with rational arguments, you can't come up with anything good without twisting the words or over simplifying my points.

You haven't defended with rational arguments. You dodge the points and harp on the positives, while your defenses are merely speculation and an exposition of the best possible case. Sure, with rose-colored glasses on and if EVERYTHING goes right, can we succeed? Absolutely. Those who are preaching taking a moment in reality will, however, harp on the LIKELY case. Catching lightning in a bottle doesn't happen very often, so let's stop talking about the unlikely and instead, talk about putting the team in a LIKELY position to succeed.
Posted by nixluva:

Look, there have certainly been enough bad or questionable moves by Isiah over his tenure here to make any defense of what he's done a difficult job. You clowns have the easy job of just picking at everything without any sense of objectivity. Nothing is good in your eyes because Isiah did it. It's the worst kind of self hate that a fan can have. You see nothing good in the team and you can't imagine the team doing well. That's fine, but don't think for a 2nd that you are the rational ones in this game.

WRONG. Most of us like Lee, Collins, Balkman (despite that I was criticized for saying that I thought Balkman would be a player who plays an important role for our team). We want two-way players. We're not 100% focused on offense. We're being objective. You're ignoring HALF of the game. We're not. Simple. Here, let me know you:

Nixluva stat sheet:

Curry - 19.5 ppg, 98 NLPR*

* - Nixluva potential rating

Solace stat sheet:

Curry - 19.5 ppg, 7.1 rpg, 57.6 FG%, 61.5% FT, 0.5 blk, 0.4 stl, 0.8 ast, 3.6 TO, 35 MPG, plus 82games.com statistics, PER, and many other statistics that show how anemic he is.

You see the world in black and white. We don't. You think criticism is a negative. We think being unreasonably optimistic is, and is why this team has been run so poorly for so long. That simple.
Posted by nixluva:

I'm not saying and have NEVER said that Isiah was perfect and that every move has been great.

You never say otherwise, other than claiming you do, which you don't.
Posted by nixluva:

I don't even support everything he's done. You guys just ignore when I say that I don't like something or want to trade a player or if I feel he should do something different coaching wise. That's fine, but the next time any one of you says something positive about anything relating to this team will be the 1st time in who knows how long.

Wrong again. Not that long ago I made a thread about some of the players I thought we should keep.
Posted by nixluva:

That's not being objective at all. You are the ones with a Gimmick and you guys are the Jokes around here. No honest fan could bash his team as mercilessly as you and not be considered irrational. There are Celtic and Bulls fans that like the Knicks more than you guys. It's to the point where we can't even get you guys to HOPE that things work out better for the team you CLAIM to love. What's that about? What kind of fan wishes bad on there own team? But keep it up tho. At least I know who and what you guys are and when the team is winning I can be sure that you'll all remain just as negative towards Isiah and the team.

Stop being such a puppet. That's ridiculous. We're not allowed to criticism a team we love being knocked into the ground? Screw you.

When Isiah makes ONE good trade come back to me. I'm still waiting. It's only been four years. Maybe by year eight, he will.

[Edited by - Solace on Jun 02 2007 4:50 PM]
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6/2/2007  7:46 PM
i haven't been to a knick game in a year, and there's a reason for that.


where's the draw?


stephon marbury from coney island?


ya............pff, SURE.
DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
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6/2/2007  9:27 PM
why would the lakers want curry if they weren't willing to trade bynum for kidd.

They are obviously high on bynum.

I can't imagine them next to each other AND no kobe.

looks as if they want to build around bynum.

fun times seeing moe, larry and curly agree with each other in sing song.

And they are antiknick, so that's what's the funniest.
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6/3/2007  12:49 AM
Posted by Solace:

You haven't defended with rational arguments. You dodge the points and harp on the positives, while your defenses are merely speculation and an exposition of the best possible case. Sure, with rose-colored glasses on and if EVERYTHING goes right, can we succeed? Absolutely. Those who are preaching taking a moment in reality will, however, harp on the LIKELY case. Catching lightning in a bottle doesn't happen very often, so let's stop talking about the unlikely and instead, talk about putting the team in a LIKELY position to succeed.

OK so I genuinely believe the things I post, that doesn't give you and many others the right to keep saying I haven't made any rational points, that I dodge the points or that I never criticize anything. I am often forced to defend the team more often here, due in large part to all the irrationally negative and pessimistic crap that you and others post here.

You mentioned that I seem to be focused on only the offensive part of the game and this is the kind of LYING ASS CRAP that gets me mad. THIS IS UTTER BS. I've made REPEATED comments regarding this teams need to improve defensively. In fact I find it funny that you and others have bashed Isiah regarding defense as if he doesn't care and yet he's drafted for defense but you guys haven't given him any credit for that. You may not like the players, but he signed James and Jared primarily for their DEFENSE. You are the ones that have it twisted.

So you like Lee, Balkman and Collins? That's great! Why spend so much time dissing the team and making it seem like we have no future or chance of winning? Do you think that's rational or even realistic to be that negative? Why don't we have as good a chance as any other team in the East to improve. We've got a good group of young players too. Would it be so hard to acknowledge that once in a while and look for ways that this team can improve and possibley succeed? I know you can only speak for yourself, but I ask this of the others too. While you personally may have expressed a positive view of some of our players I can assure you that not all of the others have been regularly expressing such a positive view of our players.

I KNOW what it takes for a team to win in this league. I've been a fan of this team and the NBA for 30+ years and i've got as good a grasp of the game as anyone else. How is it that you suppose I could miss the importance of defense having played the game and watched the game so long? You think you're the only one who gets that? What you aren't catching is that this teams strength has been on the offensive side of the ball and until we can fully develop our more defensive minded players we had no choice but to try to win games with our offense. That's not the same thing as saying defense doesn't matter. That's just me recognizing the teams weaknesses and trying to find a way to win despite that.

More to the point in this thread I haven't proposed or said anything that was irrational. My facts regarding the Knicks cap situation haven't been wrong. So why the name calling? I only started name calling in response to the crap you guys keep pulling with me. If you guys stop you won't have me starting it with any personal attacks. I merely stick to the subject of the thread and then here comes TrueBlue or someone else calling me some kind of derogatory name. Disagree with my point, but don't attack me personally. If you guys stop I won't start.
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6/3/2007  1:20 AM
Posted by nixluva:

OK so I genuinely believe the things I post, that doesn't give you and many others the right to keep saying I haven't made any rational points, that I dodge the points or that I never criticize anything.

It's only because you haven't. Start and people will take you seriously. Even the lovers don't take you seriously half the time.
Posted by nixluva:

I am often forced to defend the team more often here, due in large part to all the irrationally negative and pessimistic crap that you and others post here.

Pessimism comes from losing. It is the REALITY of losing. The fantasy is being told that we're winning and on the right track when we're not winning and there are little to no signs of being on the right track other than a few facades, like Marbury having his worst professional season and being told it was his best.
Posted by nixluva:

You mentioned that I seem to be focused on only the offensive part of the game and this is the kind of LYING ASS CRAP that gets me mad. THIS IS UTTER BS. I've made REPEATED comments regarding this teams need to improve defensively.

Really? When your best argument is Eddy will improve as if it's a guarantee or even likely, it's not much of an admission.
Posted by nixluva:

In fact I find it funny that you and others have bashed Isiah regarding defense as if he doesn't care and yet he's drafted for defense but you guys haven't given him any credit for that.

No, actually we did. What was confusing was that he drafted a known defensive player (Balkman), then signed Jared Jeffries, who he told a defensive stopper and glue to them, putting Balkman in a position to not get enough minutes to make a difference. Then, to top it off, Jeffries proved to be crap, as many of us suspected. Two wasted MLEs in two years is bad management.
Posted by nixluva:

You may not like the players, but he signed James and Jared primarily for their DEFENSE. You are the ones that have it twisted.

I don't like the players. James being signed for his defense is complete and utter GARBAGE. James was signed because Isiah traded away all of our big man and we had Mo Taylor, Kurt Thomas and Mike Sweetney playing center. Then, we overpaid to get James while we then brought in Curry. What's with the pattern of continually bringing in players who are further obsoleted by moves that that you later make. That's bad planning and bad management. Also, James is not really a defensive player. He's a big stiff in the middle. He's okay on defense. Isiah was completely full of ish when he said "one of the best defensive big men in the league".
Posted by nixluva:

So you like Lee, Balkman and Collins? That's great! Why spend so much time dissing the team and making it seem like we have no future or chance of winning?

Because these are supporting players. If they were surround LeBron, I'm all with you. If they were surrounding Kobe, great! If they were surrounding Greg Oden, awesome! They're surround fat Curry and Bastardbury. A few good supporting players to surround the worst "stars" in the league.
Posted by nixluva:

Do you think that's rational or even realistic to be that negative?

Yes.
Posted by nixluva:

Why don't we have as good a chance as any other team in the East to improve. We've got a good group of young players too.

First, it's not about being best in the NBA, it's about being best in the NBA. Second, it's not about "having a chance". Our chance is Eddy Curry becoming a great center or signing LeBron or Kobe via a miracle. Not a high chance. LeBron is in the east and he's with Cleveland. If you're comparing our chances against Philly, we're probably on par with them. Wow. Most of the other east teams have brighter futures and have better franchise players than ours.
Posted by nixluva:

Would it be so hard to acknowledge that once in a while and look for ways that this team can improve and possibley succeed?

Succeed? Aside from get lucky and sign LeBron or Kobe, trade Curry, Nate and Frye to get some lottery picks in the next few drafts, try to trade Marbury for an expiring contract and a pick, try to buy out Francis or waive him, and actually KEEP our draft picks for the next five years. Losing out on the #2 and the #9 in consecutive years was terrible. That can't happen again.
Posted by nixluva:

I KNOW what it takes for a team to win in this league. I've been a fan of this team and the NBA for 30+ years and i've got as good a grasp of the game as anyone else. How is it that you suppose I could miss the importance of defense having played the game and watched the game so long? You think you're the only one who gets that? What you aren't catching is that this teams strength has been on the offensive side of the ball and until we can fully develop our more defensive minded players we had no choice but to try to win games with our offense. That's not the same thing as saying defense doesn't matter. That's just me recognizing the teams weaknesses and trying to find a way to win despite that.

The league has changed a lot in 30 years. Experience can be a weakness as much as a positive. What you may not see is that the league has changed and maybe your plans would work back where there was a lot less teams. Defense is more of a focus for winning teams now and NBA scores are certainly a lot less. It's not about developing more defensively minded players. We have players who don't care about defense. These players need to go.
Posted by nixluva:

More to the point in this thread I haven't proposed or said anything that was irrational.

This you wrote just to reassure yourself. If you want me to reassure you, well, sorry.
Posted by nixluva:

My facts regarding the Knicks cap situation haven't been wrong.

The cap was continually harped on. Then when it was AGAIN proved that we can't do what was claimed via the cap, the argument was changed to a sign-and-trade focus. If we didn't sign Jared Jeffries or Jerome James, I'd be in 100% agreement with you. But we have them.
Posted by nixluva:

So why the name calling? I only started name calling in response to the crap you guys keep pulling with me. If you guys stop you won't have me starting it with any personal attacks. I merely stick to the subject of the thread and then here comes TrueBlue or someone else calling me some kind of derogatory name. Disagree with my point, but don't attack me personally. If you guys stop I won't start.

I'm sorry if you're offended. Honestly, it's a little insulting to our intelligence when you make things so rosy and they simply aren't true.

Believe me, EVERYONE wants the Knicks to win, even if Isiah were the reason. So far, something like 10 trades, and we lost on all of them, a few REALLY horribly. Every signing has gone to hell: Vin Baker, Jerome James, Jared Jeffries.

Isiah gets credit for his drafting. Lee was a great find, Balkman has been good (even if he was taken too early), Collins, Ariza. Frye is a bust. Nate is a child. But, overall he's done well there. It's the only area he's done well. Even coaching, which many considered his strongest aspect, he came up short... even with unprecidented support from management (he is the GM) and not held to standards which others were fired for (Lenny Wilkins, Don Chaney).

[Edited by - Solace on Jun 03 2007 01:20 AM]
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6/29/2007  1:11 AM
EXPOSED!!!!!!!

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 06-29-2007 12:12 AM]
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6/29/2007  1:16 AM
Posted by Michael6835:

you people are funny, the man finally starting acting with some fiscal responsibility and all of a sudden its not him. Or we start questioning everything prior. He signed a 3 year ext, so am I to understand that we will have 3 more years of IT bashing. Can you really argue with the idea that in 2 -3 years we will be under cap and in position to sign a big star outright with no sign and trade BS. Can you really argue that the team will not improve over the next 2 years, that IT will not add the little parts to make a team. It's silly, I know he is a good politician and he talks well for the press, but at this moment I am digging what he is saying. If he sticks to what he says is his goal, I am confidant we will again be a champion contender. The FA market in 2-3 years in loaded full of talent.

looks like fiscal responsibility just went out the window bro.
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6/29/2007  1:29 AM
Posted by TMS:
Posted by Michael6835:

you people are funny, the man finally starting acting with some fiscal responsibility and all of a sudden its not him. Or we start questioning everything prior. He signed a 3 year ext, so am I to understand that we will have 3 more years of IT bashing. Can you really argue with the idea that in 2 -3 years we will be under cap and in position to sign a big star outright with no sign and trade BS. Can you really argue that the team will not improve over the next 2 years, that IT will not add the little parts to make a team. It's silly, I know he is a good politician and he talks well for the press, but at this moment I am digging what he is saying. If he sticks to what he says is his goal, I am confidant we will again be a champion contender. The FA market in 2-3 years in loaded full of talent.

looks like fiscal responsibility just went out the window bro.

WHO THE HELL CARES? The point is to build a good team not to have cap space. You only want the cap space to allow you to have a chance to get good players. So if you get that good player you've done what the cap space was intended for. Just judge the moves Isiah makes on BB not fiscal concerns.
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6/29/2007  1:34 AM
Posted by nixluva:
Posted by TMS:
Posted by Michael6835:

you people are funny, the man finally starting acting with some fiscal responsibility and all of a sudden its not him. Or we start questioning everything prior. He signed a 3 year ext, so am I to understand that we will have 3 more years of IT bashing. Can you really argue with the idea that in 2 -3 years we will be under cap and in position to sign a big star outright with no sign and trade BS. Can you really argue that the team will not improve over the next 2 years, that IT will not add the little parts to make a team. It's silly, I know he is a good politician and he talks well for the press, but at this moment I am digging what he is saying. If he sticks to what he says is his goal, I am confidant we will again be a champion contender. The FA market in 2-3 years in loaded full of talent.

looks like fiscal responsibility just went out the window bro.

WHO THE HELL CARES? The point is to build a good team not to have cap space. You only want the cap space to allow you to have a chance to get good players. So if you get that good player you've done what the cap space was intended for. Just judge the moves Isiah makes on BB not fiscal concerns.

Dude that's not what you were saying several months before leading up to the draft. I spotted 2 threads just recently that shows how you and fans that post here drink the FOOL-AID. GM makes impulse moves and fans should support them, sorry I choose not to be such a dumb fan.
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6/29/2007  2:15 AM
Posted by nixluva:
Posted by TMS:
Posted by Michael6835:

you people are funny, the man finally starting acting with some fiscal responsibility and all of a sudden its not him. Or we start questioning everything prior. He signed a 3 year ext, so am I to understand that we will have 3 more years of IT bashing. Can you really argue with the idea that in 2 -3 years we will be under cap and in position to sign a big star outright with no sign and trade BS. Can you really argue that the team will not improve over the next 2 years, that IT will not add the little parts to make a team. It's silly, I know he is a good politician and he talks well for the press, but at this moment I am digging what he is saying. If he sticks to what he says is his goal, I am confidant we will again be a champion contender. The FA market in 2-3 years in loaded full of talent.

looks like fiscal responsibility just went out the window bro.

WHO THE HELL CARES? The point is to build a good team not to have cap space. You only want the cap space to allow you to have a chance to get good players. So if you get that good player you've done what the cap space was intended for. Just judge the moves Isiah makes on BB not fiscal concerns.

our team is good right now? that's news to me... we still are lacking a shotblocker, have zero interior defense, no proven consistent perimeter shooter, & no perimeter defense... tell me how adding Zach Randolph addresses any of those areas of weakness... i'm dying to hear this... who cares about cap space? plenty of Knick fans do, i can tell u that much... not everyone has to be a blind homer to everything Isiah does... when i agree w/something, i have no problem defending him, but when he does something ridiculously moronic with little or no regard for our longterm future, then sorry, but i have to call him out on it as well... you'd have figured he'd have learned his lesson from that Stephon Marbury trade fiasco of taking on megamillions in contracts of non-franchise calibre talent... obviously not.
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6/29/2007  2:23 AM
Damn, Curry's contract look really reasonable right about now.
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6/29/2007  2:26 AM
Posted by TMS:
Posted by nixluva:
Posted by TMS:
Posted by Michael6835:

you people are funny, the man finally starting acting with some fiscal responsibility and all of a sudden its not him. Or we start questioning everything prior. He signed a 3 year ext, so am I to understand that we will have 3 more years of IT bashing. Can you really argue with the idea that in 2 -3 years we will be under cap and in position to sign a big star outright with no sign and trade BS. Can you really argue that the team will not improve over the next 2 years, that IT will not add the little parts to make a team. It's silly, I know he is a good politician and he talks well for the press, but at this moment I am digging what he is saying. If he sticks to what he says is his goal, I am confidant we will again be a champion contender. The FA market in 2-3 years in loaded full of talent.

looks like fiscal responsibility just went out the window bro.

WHO THE HELL CARES? The point is to build a good team not to have cap space. You only want the cap space to allow you to have a chance to get good players. So if you get that good player you've done what the cap space was intended for. Just judge the moves Isiah makes on BB not fiscal concerns.

our team is good right now? that's news to me... we still are lacking a shotblocker, have zero interior defense, no proven consistent perimeter shooter, & no perimeter defense... tell me how adding Zach Randolph addresses any of those areas of weakness... i'm dying to hear this... who cares about cap space? plenty of Knick fans do, i can tell u that much... not everyone has to be a blind homer to everything Isiah does... when i agree w/something, i have no problem defending him, but when he does something ridiculously moronic with little or no regard for our longterm future, then sorry, but i have to call him out on it as well... you'd have figured he'd have learned his lesson from that Stephon Marbury trade fiasco of taking on megamillions in contracts of non-franchise calibre talent... obviously not.

You make it sound like we have ZERO perimeter shooting. Not only has Isiah at least made the PF position stronger, but that alone will also help our perimeter shooters to get another split second to get off their shots. It's not just about what Zach can do alone, but the cumulative effect of having both Zach and Curry who CAN'T BE LEFT ALONE!

Honestly I think you're taking the worst case scenario with this as have many others and you're not seeing how getting stronger at the 4 can help this team even in our perimeter game. Isiah also has looked to add young shooters he can develop. It's not just ABOUT THIS YEAR!!! This is a move that is only part of the process of developing this team. You think this is the end of his efforts to improve the team? Come on man get your head right. You know that there's a chance he could make another move if he had to. Who knows what he's got planned. This is why this pessimistic crap annoys me so much. Guys act like once he makes a deal that there's no chance of improving the team further and that's simply not true.
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6/29/2007  2:33 AM
We're going to be amongst the leaders again in 3sec violations, TO's, and fouls committed.


BOOK THIS ISH!
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Posted by TrueBlue:

We're going to be amongst the leaders again in 3sec violations, TO's, and fouls committed.


BOOK THIS ISH!

For sure fouls committed.
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6/29/2007  7:47 AM
Posted by TMS:
Posted by Michael6835:

you people are funny, the man finally starting acting with some fiscal responsibility and all of a sudden its not him. Or we start questioning everything prior. He signed a 3 year ext, so am I to understand that we will have 3 more years of IT bashing. Can you really argue with the idea that in 2 -3 years we will be under cap and in position to sign a big star outright with no sign and trade BS. Can you really argue that the team will not improve over the next 2 years, that IT will not add the little parts to make a team. It's silly, I know he is a good politician and he talks well for the press, but at this moment I am digging what he is saying. If he sticks to what he says is his goal, I am confidant we will again be a champion contender. The FA market in 2-3 years in loaded full of talent.

looks like fiscal responsibility just went out the window bro.
It didn't "just" go out the window. It went out the window when Cablevision bought the Knicks. Some people (I'm not focusing on you) just deluded themselves into thinking it was part of the plan.
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6/29/2007  12:39 PM
Posted by nixluva:
Posted by TMS:
Posted by nixluva:
Posted by TMS:
Posted by Michael6835:

you people are funny, the man finally starting acting with some fiscal responsibility and all of a sudden its not him. Or we start questioning everything prior. He signed a 3 year ext, so am I to understand that we will have 3 more years of IT bashing. Can you really argue with the idea that in 2 -3 years we will be under cap and in position to sign a big star outright with no sign and trade BS. Can you really argue that the team will not improve over the next 2 years, that IT will not add the little parts to make a team. It's silly, I know he is a good politician and he talks well for the press, but at this moment I am digging what he is saying. If he sticks to what he says is his goal, I am confidant we will again be a champion contender. The FA market in 2-3 years in loaded full of talent.

looks like fiscal responsibility just went out the window bro.

WHO THE HELL CARES? The point is to build a good team not to have cap space. You only want the cap space to allow you to have a chance to get good players. So if you get that good player you've done what the cap space was intended for. Just judge the moves Isiah makes on BB not fiscal concerns.

our team is good right now? that's news to me... we still are lacking a shotblocker, have zero interior defense, no proven consistent perimeter shooter, & no perimeter defense... tell me how adding Zach Randolph addresses any of those areas of weakness... i'm dying to hear this... who cares about cap space? plenty of Knick fans do, i can tell u that much... not everyone has to be a blind homer to everything Isiah does... when i agree w/something, i have no problem defending him, but when he does something ridiculously moronic with little or no regard for our longterm future, then sorry, but i have to call him out on it as well... you'd have figured he'd have learned his lesson from that Stephon Marbury trade fiasco of taking on megamillions in contracts of non-franchise calibre talent... obviously not.

You make it sound like we have ZERO perimeter shooting. Not only has Isiah at least made the PF position stronger, but that alone will also help our perimeter shooters to get another split second to get off their shots. It's not just about what Zach can do alone, but the cumulative effect of having both Zach and Curry who CAN'T BE LEFT ALONE!

Honestly I think you're taking the worst case scenario with this as have many others and you're not seeing how getting stronger at the 4 can help this team even in our perimeter game. Isiah also has looked to add young shooters he can develop. It's not just ABOUT THIS YEAR!!! This is a move that is only part of the process of developing this team. You think this is the end of his efforts to improve the team? Come on man get your head right. You know that there's a chance he could make another move if he had to. Who knows what he's got planned. This is why this pessimistic crap annoys me so much. Guys act like once he makes a deal that there's no chance of improving the team further and that's simply not true.


this has nothing to do with the fact that i think Isiah's not going to keep trying to improve this team... it has everything to do with the likely INABILITY to accomplish that by signing any impact free agents for the foreseeable future... but go ahead & be happy with your team built around Marbury, Zach & Curry... how many titles do you think we'll be celebrating with that core over the next decade or so? my guess is none.
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6/29/2007  1:50 PM
I can see both sides of the argument.

The trade was a significant upgrade in talent, but the talent really doesnt fit, which has been a problem that has characterized Zeke's trades and signings.

There has to be another trade, there is no way Zeke goes on the floor with team as currently constituted.

I dont understand why the free agent hand is being so overplayed by Zeke's critics. Financial restrictions limit the viability of the market...How many free agents of impact have their been over the past few years, sans Nash? This is a league of trades now.

Randolph can play tho, and we get rid of a grossly overpaid and useless part in Francis.
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6/29/2007  1:55 PM
There has to be another trade, there is no way Zeke goes on the floor with team as currently constituted.

wasn't that the same thing people were saying after the Francis trade was made?
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6/29/2007  1:57 PM
stop living in the past...besides, the Knicks have more marketable pieces.

Is completely out of the realm of possibility that the knicks can further tweak this roster?
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6/29/2007  2:01 PM
if another trade is in the works, great... but i expected another deal to go down after Francis was traded for last year & nothing happened, that's all i'm saying... so don't get your hopes up.

like it says in my sig, if you don't learn from history, you're doomed to repeat it.
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