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playa2
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5/7/2007  9:38 PM
What I have come to understand about vandummy is the NYKNICKS put him on the map, but now he's nothing but a an assistant coach who's called a head coach.

Why doesn't Jeff ever go after an offensive guru to coach along side of him.

Maybe his defensive schemes are so demanding it seldoms leaves his players with enough energy or creativity to win big in the playoffs.

He needs to go back to the booth or become a good defensive coach for an offensive minded head coach.
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http://nba.sports.tom.com/2007-05-07/0D1R/00285056.html

Houston, in the last night of this entire season, together with the rest of the world seems to have fallen into a deep slumber.

On the last day of the 2006 ~ 07 season of the Houston Rockets, Yao Ming was driving his car, left the brightly illuminated Toyota Centre, and sped towards the direction of his home. This time, it was completely different when compared to the previous 3 times after wins at home (in this Utah Jazz playoff series); in the previous 3 times, it was full of laughters and small talks; the swirling highway and the Houston sky at night was filled with vitality; this time round, dead silence reigned; all the trees' leaves on the roadside seemed already went to sleep, and the whole Houston sky seemed to loom low.....Yao Ming wanted to talk, but he did not know who to talk to........

So when we started our interview, Yao Ming's car had left Houston downtown, as well as leaving behind a once ambitious 2006-07 season, which had abruptly and prematurely ended.

TITAN: Are you okay now? Can you endure (such a blow)?

Yao Ming: (Heaved a long gasp of breath) Am I okay? No, I'm not okay.....To finish (this season) like this ! To finish (this season) like this ! To finish (this season) like this !

TITAN: What was the first thing that came to mind that you wanted to say at the end of the game?

Yao Ming: We have wasted a full season....We have wasted a full season.....

TITAN: Are you still recollecting scenes of Game 7?

Yao Ming: I just hate myself. Those 3 defensive rebounds at the end of the game. I could not grab those 3 crucial defensive rebounds. If I could grab only one of them, everything could have been different. Those were rebounds that I should have grabbed.

TITAN: For players to lose such a game like today, it could possibly take a long time for them to get out of its shadow.

Yao Ming: I don't have that much long time. I know where I have lost this game. I will undergo a surgery in next week. My left toe had been stepped on badly again. This time, it will be a more thorough surgery to clean it up such that the nail won't grow back again. 3 weeks from now, I will be allowed to start my rehabilitation training, and I will immediately start my rehabilitation training. I will need to recover my lost speed during this summer. Since I came back from the previous injury, my speed was never like what I had in the beginning of this season. You should all realize that in today's competition, speed determines everything. Without speed, you ain't got nothing. This is my top priority item to attain for this summer.

TITAN: What is the difference between this Game 7 with that Game 7 loss to Dallas Mavericks 2 years ago?

Yao Ming: Two years ago, we died a happy death, as very early into the game, we knew already we were no match for the Mavericks. So it was game over very soon. This time round, it is on our home court; we fought to the very end, but we were tortured to death.

TITAN: How is your right knee ?

Yao Ming: Luckily it was hit by the small point guard (Deron Williams); I was hit on exactly the same position as my previous injury. If I was hit by someone else, like Chuck Hayes, then I think it will break again.

TITAN: Why did you played that poor in the first half?

Yao Ming: Because I was under very high pressure. I did not sleep well last night; I woke up several times and fell back again to sleep throughout the night. My eyes were all red when I woke up this morning. After the team practice in the morning, I could not sleep well again in my afternoon nap. Therefore I could not find my rhythm and shooting touch for the first half. During the half time break, I just sat there on the bench and closed my eyes for a nap, with my mind thinking on what changes I need to adjust for second half. At the start of the second half, I saw Hakeem Olajuwon sitting at the courtside. I felt excited and motivated when I saw him, and that was why I scored 21 points in the second half.

TITAN: Where was the turning point for this game ?

Yao Ming: (I think) We were leading by 5 points (88 vs 83) when I was forced to rest, receiving my 5th personal foul. When I came back on court, we were behind by 3 points. Nobody would have thought Andrei Kirilenko could hit that 3 pointer to tie the game (88 vs 88 ). Throughout this series, in the past 6 game, Andrei Kirilenko did not manage to hit any 3-pointer.

TITAN: How do you weigh your function/contribution, if purely based on this Game 7?

Yao Ming: When I was playing poorly, it was Tracy McGrady that shouldered and persisted with the team. After I readjusted my conditions, I led the comeback of this team in the second half.....but I failed to grab those last 3 defensive rebounds....I let this game slip out of my own hands.

TITAN: You have become the target of Utah Jazz's offense throughout this series, and you have never managed to resolve it.

Yao Ming: Well the game plan/set plays of Utah Jazz seemed to have owned us. I am not shrinking from my responsibility. You must listen carefully: I am not going to shrink from my responsibility. In this team, the player that played the longest minutes, that scored the highest points, and had the highest turnovers, should be the one to take the blame for the loss. I knew where my responsibility is. I don't need other excuses. That is exactly why I need to recover my speed.

But if you just talk about defense, any other centre will find it difficult to fit into our team. In Utah Jazz, every of their players in any position can play in offense; specifically every of their exterior player can play in low post, and their interior player can pull out to the exterior/perimeter. The most obvious one was Carlos Boozer. When I guarded him (under the low post), he would pull out to shoot; when we switched another player to guard him, he would then cut it back into the paint/low post to attack. And Andrei Krilenko, Matt Harping, Gordan Giricek, they all can attack in the paint/low post. But for us, we have only Tracy and Shane that can switch from the exterior into the interior on defense. I need to play at my best capability guarding Carlos Boozer, and moreover, I had to move over on help defense to mend our loopholes in defense.

TITAN: I heard that old Del Harris called you before this game.

Yao Ming: Right. He told me that the Golden States Warriors just left and ignored their centre, and just sent 2 players dedicated on swarming and chasing Dirk Nowitzki all over the court. I told him that for Utah Jazz, they did exactly the same thing; they just ignored Chuck Hayes, and played rough and tough on me.

TITAN: If you looked back on this whole playoff series, where do you think the Rockets lost this series ?

Yao Ming: We lost on our offense. Our offense was too uni-dimensional. In most of our offense, our team relied on me or Tracy to play one-on-one and to attract double-team before we pass the ball. But in fact, we frequently could not connect with other team mates; this was particularly true when we dropped in our physical strength and efficiency. Carlos Boozer was the highest scorer on Utah Jazz. But he was actually not their focal point of offense. He is used as a decoy, always received passes in the elbow position, with his team mates cutting into the paint to seek scoring opportunities. At such time, I just could not be able to attend to one thing without losing track of another thing in the defense, (and therefore lost my target). We just did not have integrity in offense like the Utah Jazz.

TITAN: Compared with Utah Jazz, what has gone wrong with your bench?

Yao Ming: At the beginning of the season, everybody said we have a deep bench. But the further we played into the season, our bench had become thinner and thinner. Vassalis Spanoulis and Steve Novak were not given chance to play because they were rookies. Bonzi Wells was abandoned and I am certainly not at all surprised, because he and the head coach were having personality clashes. But later in the series, Kirk Snyder was also dropped, and this I just could not comprehend. Each NBA team needs to have an energy player, who just plays with energy and hustle once sent on court. We need such an energy player, playing against Utah Jazz. Moreover, (I think) this also conforms to the style of our head coach. Kirk Snyder is also very familiar with the (play style of) Utah Jazz. I just could not understand why he (Jeff Van Gundy) did not use Snyder. In this playoff series, if we have an energy player like Mike James, we definitely will have won the series. Well, in lieu of Mike James, if Kirk Snyder had played, we might have come up with better results.

TITAN: These 2 things that you mentioned above are directly related to Jeff Van Gundy. Failing to get out of Round 1, Jeff Van Gundy will definitely have to leave.

Yao Ming: This I knew too. But not touching on other things, for all these years, if not for Jeff's stern and harsh supervision, I would not have become what I am now. I know what big role he had been to me. I also beleive, even if he is to leave Houston, he will be able to find a new job elsewhere; or at most, he will take one year off to rest.

TITAN: If Jeff Van Gundy is to leave, what is the most immediate issue facing you?

Yao Ming: Well, I may end up with no one coaching me in my techniques this summer. Tom Thibodeau aspires to become a head coach. He may take up a new position, or he will leave together with Jeff Van Gundy, and could not work with me again. He had been playing a major role and was of great help and contribution on my offense skills over these years, and in particular, my left hand. But he (Tom Thibodeau) is the most important and key person in Jeff Van Gundy's coaching staff team.

TITAN: How then do you manage?

Yao Ming: I can ask CD (Carroll Dawson) to help me in my practice. During Jeff's tenure, he did not allow CD to help me on my practice. Now if he is out, then maybe CD will be allowed to help me on my practice. But the question of CD is that he is too old. Bill Duffy (Yao Ming's US agent/manager) had introduced me to another coach. That big white guy of Portland Trailblazers (Joel Przybilla) was coached by this coach. He will be mainly responsible to train me in defense and rebounding. Like this, he and CD will supplement each and other.

TITAN: From the perspective of the entire season.......

Yao Ming: I have never ever thought of such ending; so let's stop.....the season has finished.

TITAN: So you have arrived home ?

Yao Ming: Right. I must now return to my bedroom, and take a good rest on my own bed. Definitely I will sleep more steadfastly than yesterday. Tomorrow when I wake up in the morning, it is highly possible that I am still asking myself: "Is Game 7 really over ?"

So in only 20 minutes, Yao Ming had arrived home....his new home. He is no longer living in Windsor Lake & Park, which normally would take an hour's drive from Toyota Centre. Yao Ming's new home is closer to the downtown, and is much larger than the old one.

A bigger advantage (for his new home) is that it is much faster now for Yao Ming to get away form the centre of the dreadful storm (of the Houston Rockets failing to advance into Round 2), to take asylum in his new home.
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5/8/2007  12:19 PM
Posted by sebstar:

Oh and to answer your question, if I were in Van Gundy's position, from the outside looking in, I would stay. If I were as financially well off as he is, I would show loyalty to an organization that has invested millions of dollars into me --- an investment that so far I have yet to justify. Houston is still closer to becoming a championship team than not, its just not slam dunk at this point.

Now if there is a pressing personal situation that demands his attention, so be it. But given past history, I doubt that is the case.

And what if there were rumblings that management and ownership wasn't happy with you and were thinking about making changes? Would you stay then?
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5/8/2007  3:33 PM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by sebstar:

Oh and to answer your question, if I were in Van Gundy's position, from the outside looking in, I would stay. If I were as financially well off as he is, I would show loyalty to an organization that has invested millions of dollars into me --- an investment that so far I have yet to justify. Houston is still closer to becoming a championship team than not, its just not slam dunk at this point.

Now if there is a pressing personal situation that demands his attention, so be it. But given past history, I doubt that is the case.

And what if there were rumblings that management and ownership wasn't happy with you and were thinking about making changes? Would you stay then?

Well, now were just adding speculation on top of speculation. I dont claim to know all the inner machinations going on in the Houston organization. I'm sure that there are some disgruntled upper management types who are more than disappointed with Van Gundy's performance thus far, and are questioning his ability to get them past the FIRST round. Granted, everything isnt perfect; so Van Gundy is going to respond by tucking his tail between his legs and running out of town when things get tough?
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5/8/2007  6:23 PM
Posted by sebstar:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by sebstar:

Oh and to answer your question, if I were in Van Gundy's position, from the outside looking in, I would stay. If I were as financially well off as he is, I would show loyalty to an organization that has invested millions of dollars into me --- an investment that so far I have yet to justify. Houston is still closer to becoming a championship team than not, its just not slam dunk at this point.

Now if there is a pressing personal situation that demands his attention, so be it. But given past history, I doubt that is the case.

And what if there were rumblings that management and ownership wasn't happy with you and were thinking about making changes? Would you stay then?

Well, now were just adding speculation on top of speculation. I dont claim to know all the inner machinations going on in the Houston organization. I'm sure that there are some disgruntled upper management types who are more than disappointed with Van Gundy's performance thus far, and are questioning his ability to get them past the FIRST round. Granted, everything isnt perfect; so Van Gundy is going to respond by tucking his tail between his legs and running out of town when things get tough?

I don't claim to know all the inner machinations in the Houston organzation either but it was reported on ESPN that Rockets ownership and upper management wasn't happy with the direction and were thinking about making changes.

If that's the case then why shouldn't JVG look out for his own best interests? We know management would so why not him?
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5/8/2007  6:41 PM
Posted by holfresh:
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How is he a joke? He turned them into a top 10 defensive team. They just choked. Maybe just maybe he is tired of coaching.

He is a joke because he looks for the exit everytime the going gets tough...He will do the usual shimmy...Broadcast for a year and look for another team that has upside...He just isn't that good a coach...He is decent but not a great coach...He lack creativity on the offensive end and is basically using Riley's defensive schemes..How can you applaud their defensive effort when the Rockets have been bumped out of the playoffs in the first round...



[Edited by - holfresh on 05-06-2007 2:00 PM]


Seems to me that JVG has always followed in the footsteps of Ole' Pat Riley. Riley takes some time off....Looks like Jeff might seem to think it's a good idea to do what his mentor has done...or very simular to that. He's always been that way through his coaching career that started under Riley.

Why does he seem to pattern the life of Riley so much???? I don't know; but this reaks of "I have to do it like Riley does" stuff.


[Edited by - NJK on 05-08-2007 6:43 PM]
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5/8/2007  11:59 PM
Posted by playa2:

Stop all the excuse making.

Jeff Vandummy is a glorified lifetime assistant he can only excel at one end of the court(defense). Because of Patrick Ewing jeff got a chance to be head coach on the biggest stage in America. The reason he brought on ewing TO COACH yao on the rockets was because "he owed him". Nobody's knocking down ewings door to work with other bigmen.

Jeff would make a good #1 assistant head coach

The little man has snookered so many it ain't funny.

Actually, I think Phil Jack-ass is the most glorified. He had Jordan, he had Shaq and Kobe and still has Kobe. All VG had was a breaking down Ewing and eventually a Spreewell and Camby. That's it! And we know what happened with these guys, don't we playa?
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5/9/2007  12:02 AM
Posted by NineMike2Whiskey:

The dude's a workaholic, the series must have taken a toll on him. I remember once reading how he locked himself till late in his office every just looking over tapes when we were in on losing streak (cant remember which season).

[Edited by - NineMike2Whiskey on 05-07-2007 02:49 AM]

He was a pretty good coach. I really liked his work ethic. He was like a toned down Pat Rilley, but we still got to keep the tough defensive minded coach.
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5/9/2007  12:05 AM
and lost to a retiring David Robinson.

C'om man. Be fair. He had Tim Duncan next to him, with that UNSTOPPABLE shot. No one could stop that! When I think of it, I still can't believe how Tim kissed that board and banked it in, with two guys in his face. He just kept on hitting those things. I'm getting a little peeeeeed just thinking about it.
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5/9/2007  7:18 AM
come back to the knicks!
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5/9/2007  7:29 AM
Posted by 4949:
Posted by playa2:

Stop all the excuse making.

Jeff Vandummy is a glorified lifetime assistant he can only excel at one end of the court(defense). Because of Patrick Ewing jeff got a chance to be head coach on the biggest stage in America. The reason he brought on ewing TO COACH yao on the rockets was because "he owed him". Nobody's knocking down ewings door to work with other bigmen.

Jeff would make a good #1 assistant head coach

The little man has snookered so many it ain't funny.

Actually, I think Phil Jack-ass is the most glorified. He had Jordan, he had Shaq and Kobe and still has Kobe. All VG had was a breaking down Ewing and eventually a Spreewell and Camby. That's it! And we know what happened with these guys, don't we playa?

Jeff works his butt off, but let me ask you this.

WHY HAVEN'T THE LIL WORKAHOLIC EXPANDED HIS OFFENSIVE SIDE OF THE GAME ???

Maybe he's just a an assistant masquerading as a NBA HEAD COACH.

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5/10/2007  12:52 AM
Jeff works his butt off, but let me ask you this.

WHY HAVEN'T THE LIL WORKAHOLIC EXPANDED HIS OFFENSIVE SIDE OF THE GAME ???

Maybe he's just a an assistant masquerading as a NBA HEAD COACH.


I really don't know, but he makes the playoffs and we can't even dream of it right now. I don't think any of us are in a position to be dissing JVG.
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5/10/2007  1:34 AM
Posted by 4949:
Jeff works his butt off, but let me ask you this.

WHY HAVEN'T THE LIL WORKAHOLIC EXPANDED HIS OFFENSIVE SIDE OF THE GAME ???

Maybe he's just a an assistant masquerading as a NBA HEAD COACH.


I really don't know, but he makes the playoffs and we can't even dream of it right now. I don't think any of us are in a position to be dissing JVG.

Remember when Jeff saw that the Knicks were going in another direction he bailed out on the Knicks in a hurry. Besides I think Yao and McGrady have had enough of the stale offense that JVG brings to the team. He is terrible on the O side of the ball. He needs work on it bad if he wants to keep yao happy. The Rockets would highly benefit from a free flow offense. Bonzi and Snyder should have played more in the series. JVG shouldn't have given up on Bonzi they could have used his offense.

Jeff Van Gundy to retire...That guy is such a joke...

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