Posted by nixluva:

I don't see Orl, Philly, Atl, Bos, Mil, Char as being better than the Knicks. .

so you see NY unseating Orlando because thats the only play-off team mentioned. And Orlando's core is younger and has as much upside as NY's plus they have cap room to add someone significant like Lewis or Carter.

as for Milwaukee, they were hit harder with injury than anybody

Villa (43 games) Bogut (16 games) Redd (29 games) and Williams (14 games)

their 2 best players 72 games combined and still finished only 5 games back of NY.




[Edited by - McK1 on 06-05-2007 6:10 PM]

Posted by djsunyc:

words.

we heard words from isiah.
we heard words from dolan.
we heard words from marbury.
we heard words from curry.
and now crawford is joining in.

at what point will their actions speak louder than their words?

i've reached a point where i no longer care what anybody says. their play will show and prove what kind of team they are.

agree w/u 100%

Posted by nixluva:

Posted by McK1:

so you see NY unseating Orlando because thats the only play-off team mentioned. And Orlando's core is younger and has as much upside as NY's plus they have cap room to add someone significant like Lewis or Carter.

Who do the Magic have in terms of youth that we should consider their upside better than ours?

D. Howard ---E. Curry
J. Nelson ---M. Collins
D. Milicic ---D. Lee
J. Redick ---C. Frye
T. Ariza ---R. Balkman
K. Dooling ---N. Robinson
T. Diener ---R. Morris
No 1st rd pick ---#23 Pick

I don't really see any clear advantage for the Magic in terms of their group. Howard I love, I like Ariza, but I don't like Nelson, Milicic or Redick. They have cap room but even with adding a player like Lewis I don't like their team that much. Them getting Carter I don't see happening. I don't see any reason to be more positive about their future over ours.


[Edited by - nixluva on 05-06-2007 11:54 PM]

If you were the Magic GM, would you trade Dwight Howard to the Knicks to get Eddy Curry?

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Obviously I was being facetious, but know this injuries should be expected to happen well before brawls, so saying God Willing barring no injuries is comical. Keep drinking the FOOL-AID!

Did injuries not happen at an inopportune time? Was this team playing .500 basketball for over a month, positioned itself to be the favorite for the 7th seed, and then the leading scorer, leading rebounder, energy man off the bench all consecutively were hurt.

Did this happen or am I dreaming? I know its absurd to already be prefacing next season's expectations with injury forewarnings -- clearly these guys take their cue from isiah, who did this throughout the year.

people act as if there isnt a difference between the reality (injuries hit this team right as it was hitting its stride) and fiction (every team in the nba gets hit with a bevy of injuries when it starts to play well and we just have to deal with it). the knicks will certainly be injured again next yr, Q is almost a definite, marbury will probably miss some games. however if they can avoid these injuries in the last 4 weeks of the year when they are making a playoff push, i dont think expecting playoffs is out of the question. in fact, it should be expected.

fact: the knicks played over .500 basketball for a month and had won 9 of 15 at one point and were not only in the playoff picture but the best team at the bottom half of the EC, with orlando, indiana, and NJ all dropping like rocks, the knicks were playing ball. who wants to dispute this? trueblue, blueseats (are you guys the same person?), isles im sure. did this not happen? was i intoxicated with enough "fool-aid" and wearing my rose colored glasses to the point where i started imagining things? or were the knicks in the playoffs, winning more than half their games in february and starting march well and then injuries hit? or were they 15 below the whole year and this injury thing is just an excuse, an abberation?

someone fill me in.

[Edited by - bigsm00th on 05-07-2007 10:05 PM]

Posted by Bonn1997:

Posted by nixluva:

Posted by McK1:

so you see NY unseating Orlando because thats the only play-off team mentioned. And Orlando's core is younger and has as much upside as NY's plus they have cap room to add someone significant like Lewis or Carter.

Who do the Magic have in terms of youth that we should consider their upside better than ours?

D. Howard ---E. Curry
J. Nelson ---M. Collins
D. Milicic ---D. Lee
J. Redick ---C. Frye
T. Ariza ---R. Balkman
K. Dooling ---N. Robinson
T. Diener ---R. Morris
No 1st rd pick ---#23 Pick

I don't really see any clear advantage for the Magic in terms of their group. Howard I love, I like Ariza, but I don't like Nelson, Milicic or Redick. They have cap room but even with adding a player like Lewis I don't like their team that much. Them getting Carter I don't see happening. I don't see any reason to be more positive about their future over ours.


[Edited by - nixluva on 05-06-2007 11:54 PM]

If you were the Magic GM, would you trade Dwight Howard to the Knicks to get Eddy Curry?

Now that's just Stupid! Who would even suggest such a thing? That's not what the point of my comparison is about. McK1 made it sound like the Magic had this great group of young players and that we somehow didn't have an equal level of youth. The truth is we actually have a nice young group of players. In the East a few other teams have really nice young talent too, but we're not deficient in comparison to any of those teams IMO.

Posted by nixluva:

Posted by Bonn1997:

Posted by nixluva:

Posted by McK1:

so you see NY unseating Orlando because thats the only play-off team mentioned. And Orlando's core is younger and has as much upside as NY's plus they have cap room to add someone significant like Lewis or Carter.

Who do the Magic have in terms of youth that we should consider their upside better than ours?

D. Howard ---E. Curry
J. Nelson ---M. Collins
D. Milicic ---D. Lee
J. Redick ---C. Frye
T. Ariza ---R. Balkman
K. Dooling ---N. Robinson
T. Diener ---R. Morris
No 1st rd pick ---#23 Pick

I don't really see any clear advantage for the Magic in terms of their group. Howard I love, I like Ariza, but I don't like Nelson, Milicic or Redick. They have cap room but even with adding a player like Lewis I don't like their team that much. Them getting Carter I don't see happening. I don't see any reason to be more positive about their future over ours.


[Edited by - nixluva on 05-06-2007 11:54 PM]

If you were the Magic GM, would you trade Dwight Howard to the Knicks to get Eddy Curry?

Now that's just Stupid! Who would even suggest such a thing? That's not what the point of my comparison is about. McK1 made it sound like the Magic had this great group of young players and that we somehow didn't have an equal level of youth. The truth is we actually have a nice young group of players. In the East a few other teams have really nice young talent too, but we're not deficient in comparison to any of those teams IMO.

So the player they're building around is so much better than ours that it would be "just stupid" to even compare them. Yet our future is as bright as theirs...somehow!

Curry's team did well with what he was able to give them.

They did well? Based on what?

Posted by TMS:

Posted by djsunyc:

words.

we heard words from isiah.
we heard words from dolan.
we heard words from marbury.
we heard words from curry.
and now crawford is joining in.

at what point will their actions speak louder than their words?

i've reached a point where i no longer care what anybody says. their play will show and prove what kind of team they are.

agree w/u 100%

Yup. Enough talk! Enough excuses! They have the talent to be in teh playoffs. Why have we not made it? Enough nonsense. Performance on the court is all that matters. If you can play D, play d. If you can rebound, rebound. Enough underachievement and then blaming it on outside factors. Enough talk. Get it done.