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BlueSeats
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4/20/2007  10:58 AM
Posted by tomverve:
Posted by BlueSeats:

Your desultory tone toward her gender embarasses me for forgetting just how narrow your agenda really is.

All you want is another 'shill brotha' to assist you and Isiah in "the struggle".

Your interests are only tangentially Knicks related, which is fine. I'll simply remember not to overestimate your interest in basketball going forward.

Fighting gender slings with racial arrows. Now that's classy.


I fired at his message board agenda, not his race. My appologies for not statistically quantify it so you could follow along.
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4/20/2007  10:42 PM
Posted by misterearl:

Queenie - nice job

Selena Roberts = D-. In the immortal words of Washington DC Mayor Marion Barry, "that bitch set me up"

Andrew - Dave D'Alessandro was one of the best. I remember watching him in Charlotte one evening as Felton Spencer was working on his outside (cough) shot. The freakin' guy was covering the freakin' shootaround.

He told it like it was.

In my humble opinion, I feel strongly that passionate Knicks fans deserve much better than the metronomic regurgitation of sound bites.

A quote like the bolded one coming from someone who spent 23 pages thrashing Imus with posts like
playa - Imus simply spoke what too many in the media, and in the country, honestly think

Nothing will happen because Imus brings ratings and ratings boost the bottom line.

But imagine someone with that much influence saying that to the world about your daughter or child.

Fork Imus and his kind
On the very first page(and 2nd post) of the Imus thread seems a little messed up, no?

[Edited by - joec32033 on 20 April 2007 22:43]
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4/21/2007  5:52 AM
Posted by fishmike:

so the 4 guys that play the most minutes all get Bs. The coach gets a C+ and yet we win what? 32 games and miss the playoffs in a league where half the teams go. Awesome job. I guess we are going to be great though because Malik Rose says so

Fish- more than half the teams go.
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4/21/2007  9:42 PM
Undercover Shill Brotha?

hey, that's kinda catchy blueseats. But not so close as having an opinion and being willing to duke it out with anyone who cares to trade verbiage sans the amateurish insults.

BlueSeats - everyone writes with a personal slant. If mine does not agree with yours then so be it. Scroll on by.

Then again, If you can show me an "objective" writer on this board, I will be the first to send you a medal... made of aluminum foil and used bubble gum.

Selena does not lose points with me because she is a woman. She loses points for the lack of originality in her content, and the spiteful tone of her writing that speaks to an anti-Knicks agenda.

She didn't stick around very long.

have a nice Summer

[Edited by - misterearl on 04-21-2007 9:44 PM]
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4/21/2007  9:56 PM
joeC - you had to be there to understand the Barry line, which was also quoted by the respected NYTimes columnist William Saffire in one of his books. Ah, never mind...

Don't believe the anti-earl hype
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4/21/2007  10:54 PM
Posted by misterearl:


Don't believe the anti-earl hype


It looks like it's becoming the vogue to feel sorry for misterearl these days, even by misterearl himself.
Posted by misterearl:

Undercover Shill Brotha?

hey, that's kinda catchy blueseats. But not so close as having an opinion and being willing to duke it out with anyone who cares to trade verbiage sans the amateurish insults.

misterearl, don't glorify yourself. I still recall our first exchange. I made a remark about Marbury, in a game thread, directed toward no one. You purposely insulted my intelligence by telling me I "should go to college". Having already done so, I replied "maybe I should have gone to an engineering school, like Steph".

You drew first blood, and I took it with humor. I took it as a bonding experience. No need for you to feel so wounded when you get some of your own.
BlueSeats - everyone writes with a personal slant. If mine does not agree with yours then so be it. Scroll on by.

Now I need to ignore everything I don't agree with? I thought you just said you like to duke it out with anyone who has an opinion?
Then again, If you can show me an "objective" writer on this board, I will be the first to send you a medal... made of aluminum foil and used bubble gum.

Selena does not lose points with me because she is a woman. She loses points for the lack of originality in her content, and the spiteful tone of her writing that speaks to an anti-Knicks agenda.

She didn't stick around very long.

have a nice Summer

You spoke longingly for someone who writes "creatively" and who wasn't part of the "good ol' boy". As a gifted female writer Selena qualifies on both counts. But then you make clear by "creative" you mean someone who supports Isiah. And by disparaging the woman's movement and indirectly call hera "b!tch," you make it quite clear that to be outside the "good ol' boy" network they must bring a black activist slant to qualify.

So the reality is you don't really care if the writer is creative, or outside of the ol' boy network, because anyone who doesn't meet your specific black-male needs gets penalized down to a D-.

Somehow my drawing that distinction qualifies as "amateurish insults" or "racial arrows"? What's the harm in my observing what you yourself make obvious? Why not just come straight and tell us you want more black writers who support Isiah and save us the dance?

And for the record, I enjoy your participation here, and believe it or not, I support your activism. Sometimes it's a distraction from basketball and the Knicks, (like insinuations that if a person likes Lee but not Marbury they are deluded by racial preference,) which is how you draw a disproportionate amount of attention to yourself. But so be it, the earl is okay in my book.

So let me know when you're ready to duke it out "with anyone who cares to trade verbiage", but let's not rule out amateurish insults for I'd hate to deprive you of half your arsenal.
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4/22/2007  9:05 AM
I think that's a pretty fair write up from Isola. I feel like the grade has more to do with the result of the player's time on the floor more than the effort, likeability, etc. That's why even though Balkman and Collins play D and gave us something to root for, they didn't do enough yet to get a higher grade.
By the way- I am a homer and root for the team all year even when we stink. But- I don't relate to the " Hey folks, it will turn around, look on the bright side and have a little heart" Mr.Earl vibe. I think that approach is bad luck, We'll know when we're good, and when we are we won't have to make an argument for it. It will be apparent. Now we're not good. At all. Just because we potentially could be good if every little thing goes our way in the next few years doesn't mean it's a bright sunny day in Knickland.
If you are still following the team and reading sites like this, there is nothing, short of your own demise, that is going to throw you off this train.
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4/22/2007  2:43 PM
Posted by 93BUICK:

I think that's a pretty fair write up from Isola. I feel like the grade has more to do with the result of the player's time on the floor more than the effort, likeability, etc. That's why even though Balkman and Collins play D and gave us something to root for, they didn't do enough yet to get a higher grade.
By the way- I am a homer and root for the team all year even when we stink. But- I don't relate to the " Hey folks, it will turn around, look on the bright side and have a little heart" Mr.Earl vibe. I think that approach is bad luck, We'll know when we're good, and when we are we won't have to make an argument for it. It will be apparent. Now we're not good. At all. Just because we potentially could be good if every little thing goes our way in the next few years doesn't mean it's a bright sunny day in Knickland.

While it is true that there are no guarantees that the Knicks situation will improve, those signs we see are good indications that we have some of the needed parts for this team to have success down the line. Lee's play is one of those signs. Balkman and Collins are 2 more good signs. I was encouraged by Curry this year even if he still needs a lot of work on his overall game. There is enough here to suggest that this team will get better as those players grow. The staff seems to have been doing a good job with many of the young players, cuz they are for the most part getting better. Frye was a disappointment, but that doesn't offset the good that the other young players have done. In his case there's still time for him to get it turned back around.

In NY we're too quick to just right guys off. The league is full of guys that prove themselves after others may have given up on them. Billups is one such guy. Parker of Toronto is another guy that has persevered and made himself into a good NBA player. I thought that Ariza's offense looked much worse than either Balkman or Collins. I have a good feeling that those guys will be able to improve on their shooting. They don't have to be great, but decent levels would do wonders. Lee may also yet develop his jumper. All of that will only help us to get better as a team. BUT WE HAVE TO BE PATIENT!
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4/22/2007  5:24 PM
BlueSeats - you really need to let some stuff go. whatever the Marbury discussion was, it was months ago. I don't care for Selena Roberts style of writing. It has absolutely nothing to do with her gender, despite your assumptions.

I ain't got no beef with you. Petty, personal vendettas in a virtual forum are a waste of screen space.

what the heck, I'm going to go out on a limb and grade myself...



[Edited by - misterearl on 04-22-2007 5:33 PM]
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4/22/2007  5:54 PM
Posted by misterearl:

BlueSeats - you really need to let some stuff go. whatever the Marbury discussion was, it was months ago. I don't care for Selena Roberts style of writing. It has absolutely nothing to do with her gender, despite your assumptions.

I ain't got no beef with you. Petty, personal vendettas in a virtual forum are a waste of screen space.

what the heck, I'm going to go out on a limb and grade myself...



[Edited by - misterearl on 04-22-2007 5:33 PM]


What is it you want me to let go of? I feel no upset and there's no grudge for me to hold - we're just talking. But you sound as if you feel persecuted. If you're simply here to broadcast your views without reply, just say so.
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4/22/2007  11:38 PM
nixluva- I totally agree- I wouldn't want to trade any of the guys you mentioned- but we don't know for sure we can hold on to those guys, trim the fat of our payroll/lame players and develop realistically, because we haven't set a precedent for that as a Knicks corporation- I would love to see a Knick future w Collins Lee Balkman and Curry all developing. I just don't have faith that the players I like will stay and the ones we don't need will fall away.
If you are still following the team and reading sites like this, there is nothing, short of your own demise, that is going to throw you off this train.
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4/23/2007  10:11 AM
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4/23/2007  10:13 AM
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Blue seats and MisterEArl. The Bippity10 and Bobo of 2007.

You mean they're the same poster?
Wishing everyone well. I enjoyed posting here for a while, but as I matured I realized this forum isn't for me. We all evolve. Thanks for the memories everyone.
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Posted by Solace:
Posted by Bippity10:

Blue seats and MisterEArl. The Bippity10 and Bobo of 2007.

You mean they're the same poster?

I just hope that people will like me
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