Posted by misterearl:

nixluva - well done on illustrating the yoot of the Knicks roster

Play Inside out

Hit the open man

you just don't get it dude... that's exactly the argument i'm presenting here... if we're building this thing around Curry, then playing inside out is the style of ball this team needs to implement... we can't have Marbury thinking he needs to take the weight on his shoulders & go away from the team concept to try & win games, because after 11 years in the league of failing to get his teams to where they want to be using that type of strategy, it's clear that he's incapable of elevating a team on his own no matter how well he's playing.

Posted by codeunknown:

Upside isn't merely a function of age.

Posted by nixluva:

Posted by codeunknown:

Upside isn't merely a function of age.

To be sure, but in most cases players usually get a little better as they move along from rookies and 2nd yr players. Just how much any one player improves is hard to predict. Still we have a group of guys that have NBA ability in at least one area and if just a few round out those skills they can become very good players for this team.

All I read is how we're so out of options to improve and when I look at the team I see so much young talent and more being added all the time. I don't get the idea that this team isn't just as full of promise as many of the other young teams out there. Counting our draft pick we'll have 11 players 27 yrs or younger. I would expect that we'll likely add someone else who is relatively young as well. We have a few key needs that I think will be filled this summer and then we'll take it from there.

The NBDL is full of young players. And yet their entire upside is less than the Orlando Magic. Whether our count of young players comes to 11 or 12 is rather irrelevant to me. As you said, each of them has talent in one area. Unfortunately, we don't have the luxury of playing 8 players simultaneously to hide their collective deficiencies. Who out of our young players is likely to a all-star perimeter player? Who out of our young players can shoot the ball consistently? Who out of our young player can protect the lane? Do any of our young players have the capacity to contribute efficiently on both offense and defense?

Posted by Bippity10:

I agree with TMS. If you are building around Marbs it's time to bring in a superstar and try to take advantage of Marbs last 3 good years(Well at least on the front end of back to backs). But if you are building around Curry than Marbs is nothing more than a piece that helps us to stay in the middle of the pack while we try to build. I prefer the idea of using all of our resources to put ourselves in position to get an up and coming star to put next to Curry 3 to 4 years from now.

Now this does not mean cut Marbs or not play him. It means that when y ou make offseason moves you don't make them based on Marbs. You basically ignore Marbs' presence on the team when making offseason moves and focus on Curry.

Posted by djsunyc:

03/04 - 47 games, 25-22
04/05 - 82 games, 33-49
05/06 - 60 games, 18-42
06/07 - 68 games, 30-38

total: 257 games, 106-151 for a 0.412 winning %

i'll do marbury fans a solid and subtract off the larry brown season
he's 88-109 for a 0.446 winning %

that was prior to the orlando game (i think).

[Edited by - djsunyc on 03-30-2007 11:48 AM]