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AI
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3/23/2007  7:17 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by AI:



how is his rebounding and shot blocking?

Those are his best attributes AI. He's a great rebounder and he played against good bigs in the SEC so it's not a smokescreen. He goes after the ball hard everytime and he gives you everything he's got. He's a good shotblocker, his shotblocking increased every year he was at Kentucky, if I'm not mistaken. He averaged 2bpg a game this year, but it's something he improved every year.

Thank You. Now Im looking forward watching him play.
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3/23/2007  7:22 PM
Comparisons:
Best Case: Jamaal Magloire
Worst Case: Brendon Haywood
Sorry but I got a kick out of that. Is Magloire even better than Haywood??
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3/23/2007  7:28 PM
Posted by Bonn1997:
Comparisons:
Best Case: Jamaal Magloire
Worst Case: Brendon Haywood
Sorry but I got a kick out of that. Is Magloire even better than Haywood??

That article on Morris was written in 2005... that would explain the best/worst case comparisons.

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3/23/2007  7:32 PM
it's not whether he's gonna be good or not, but it's a cheap signing for a probably 1st round pick if he were eligible for the draft. and it was cheaper than buying a pick (which would've cost $3 mil or so).

he can be decent. he could be a bust. regardless, it's still a good signing.
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3/23/2007  7:35 PM
Did we use up half our LLE on him?
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3/23/2007  7:36 PM
Posted by kam77:

Did we use up half our LLE on him?

i think it's a prorated LLE this season and the entire LLE next season.
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3/23/2007  7:44 PM
Got this article from another site:

The problematic prospect
By Adrian Wojnarowski, Yahoo! Sports
December 11, 2006

Adrian Wojnarowski
Yahoo! Sports

The father of the most intriguing NBA free agent in years sounded somewhat startled to hear of the sudden scramble surrounding his son. No one in the pros has called Ralph Morris about his kid Randolph at the University of Kentucky, but rest assured, the junior's status has sent several franchises searching for a simple answer to a complicated question.

Do we have a shot to sign Randolph Morris right now?

"As far as I know, he's not entertaining any thoughts of leaving Kentucky during the season," Ralph Morris said by phone from his Atlanta home on Sunday.

Since the start of the college basketball season, several NBA teams closely have studied the unusual circumstance surrounding Randolph Morris. They've made calls, asked around to agents and kept checking with sources to make sure no one else was beating them to a contract offer.


Suddenly, more and more executives are hustling to decide how they should handle the reality that the center is no longer an immature, poorly conditioned 6-foot-11 project, but a leaner, more polished prospect. In this climate, the kid just needs to say the word and he never has to wake up for another 8:30 a.m. class.

Morris could sign a contract today, leave school and wear an NBA uniform immediately. "A team would be within our rules to do that," NBA spokesman Tim Frank said.

Even the worst teams in the league don't need him now, but they don't want to risk losing Morris later. This isn't so much a salute to a prodigious talent – he's good, not great – but the reality that draft-day size is still the most fleeting of commodities.

"He's a big freebie of a No. 1 pick," one Eastern Conference official said. "Most teams won't be in a position to get someone like him. This is a backdoor way of getting a second No. 1 pick in the draft."

After a so-so freshman season, Morris entered the 2005 NBA draft only to have a series of lethargic workouts sour everyone on him. No executives could find a positive thing to say about Morris, except that he ought to go back to school. No one touched him on draft day, and eventually he returned to Kentucky for his sophomore season. The NCAA rules let him back into the college game, but the NBA's collective bargaining agreement prohibited his re-entry into a future draft. Right away, Morris was a free agent.

And if for no other reason than teams didn't expect his development would demand all of this and could become an issue, there has been confusion with some franchises about his status. One NBA team contacted by Yahoo! Sports believed that Morris wasn't eligible to sign until July 1, and another Eastern Conference general manager had no idea at all that he was a free agent.

Still, most executives knew the loophole that made him a free agent and were charting his progress. Nevertheless, everything changed with his performance against North Carolina on Dec. 2.

A Western Conference official scouted Morris against the Tar Heels and couldn't believe his eyes. This was Randolph Morris? He watched Morris deliver a 10-for-11 shooting performance against Carolina's lottery-pick frontline of Tyler Hansbrough and Brandan Wright and discovered a transformed player.

"He outplayed both of them," the official said. "He was the best player on the floor. Listen, I couldn't stand this kid for two years. He was out of shape. He didn't seem like he cared at all. But from what I've seen out there, most teams can't get a guy like Morris in this draft. You just can't find quality bigs out there.



"Everyone has something to think about right now. You'd take some heat for signing him, but hey, the rule is the rule. He's available."

While the NBA wouldn't be thrilled with the public relations fallout of poaching a college player in midseason, Morris' situation is far more an issue of NCAA legislation than NBA. Once college basketball decided to let these underclassmen return to school, it opened itself up to this kind of hassle. Commissioner David Stern and NCAA executive director Myles Brand have been talking about a cooperative relationship between the pros and college ball, and they would be wise to find a way to clean up this loophole.

Even so, Morris probably is an aberration. He was a skilled big man, but his work ethic and commitment was so suspect that NBA executives almost took a personal affront to it.

There was a belief that Morris would've been a first-round pick if he had gone pro straight out of his Atlanta high school. After his freshman year, several executives and agents say that Morris still might have been picked in the first round, if only he hadn't exposed himself to private workouts with teams.

"Just maturity has changed him," Ralph Morris said Sunday. "He's just decided that this is something he wants to do."

After the season, the father agrees that there are "major benefits" to his son's free-agent status. Randolph can inspire a bidding war, pick his own team and ultimately free himself of the rookie salary cap structure. "That would be an intriguing possibility," Ralph said.

Still, the father wouldn't declare that his son is on the market. "In terms of this season, to be honest, he wouldn't leave his team," Ralph said. "He's committed to Kentucky."

Still, the rule is the rule. Randolph Morris is available. Just say the word and the bidding begins.


[Edited by - bigbeast on 03-23-2007 7:44 PM]
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3/23/2007  7:46 PM
This signings make you wonder if the other GMs were asleep at the trigger. There were over a handfull of teams who could have used a big-man like Morris on the cheap:

ATL
Bos
Mem
Chi
NJ......just to name a few. Either way Isiah has to be credited for getting Morris on the cheap.

[Edited by - bigbeast on 03-23-2007 7:47 PM]
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3/23/2007  7:46 PM
that was some shady stuff going on in kentucky that allowed him to return, but the kid is a real prospect and can play... He was in the NCAA tourney last week, and now he is a NBA player.... LOL...
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3/23/2007  7:54 PM
Posted by tkf:

that was some shady stuff going on in kentucky that allowed him to return, but the kid is a real prospect and can play... He was in the NCAA tourney last week, and now he is a NBA player.... LOL...

Heard the story on him, and all I have to say is with the background info, that was some slick stuff Zeke pulled and I love it. He played 2 full college seasons as an NBA free agent!

Great move, now we HAVE to move one of our bigs we just have too many, unless he plans on playing Lee at the 3 and Balkman at some 2.
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3/23/2007  8:15 PM
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by kam77:

Did we use up half our LLE on him?

i think it's a prorated LLE this season and the entire LLE next season.

Is it THIS seasons LLE or does it count as next seasons?

A non-trivial point, since you can't use the LLE inconsecutive years.
So the NEXT time we'll have an LLE is when? 2008 or 2009?
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3/23/2007  8:19 PM
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3/23/2007  8:30 PM
I'll have to wait and see how he plays, but he's a good prospect. if nothing else, he may be a piece we can use to package with the bulls pick to move up in the draft.
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3/23/2007  8:50 PM
If he could have gone anywhere, why did he pick the knicks ???

He must have a smart agent, everyone knows by now that we pay well for mediocrity...ask Jerome "Big Snacks" James.
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3/23/2007  8:53 PM
Posted by playa2:

If he could have gone anywhere, why did he pick the knicks ???

He must have a smart agent, everyone knows by now that we pay well for mediocrity...ask Jerome "Big Snacks" James.

Climate change.
Eddie Griffin spurned us when Isiah got here.
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3/23/2007  9:18 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:

http://ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=18743

Good call.
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3/23/2007  9:42 PM
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Posted by playa2:

If he could have gone anywhere, why did he pick the knicks ???

He must have a smart agent, everyone knows by now that we pay well for mediocrity...ask Jerome "Big Snacks" James.


"We said all along that in terms of building this team we would have to find unconventional ways to try and find talent and get out and beat the bushes," said Isiah Thomas, the Knicks' coach and director of basketball operations. "This is a very unique situation and I don't know if there has been something similar to this. The rules allowed it, and here we are."

Thomas said Morris will soon join and practice with the Knicks, who love the potential in the 6-foot-11, 260-pounder.

"It's another guy we can add to our young core," Thomas said. "We're very happy to have him. It's another big and it's almost like another pick in this year's draft -- just a little early."

Thomas said several other teams were "chasing" Morris.

Morris' decision came a day after coach Tubby Smith left Kentucky to become the head coach at Minnesota.

Kentucky spokesman Scott Stricklin said athletic director Mitch Barnhart met with Morris late Thursday night and asked Morris to wait until a new coach was in place before deciding whether to leave.

Morris blossomed this season, becoming the most consistent player for the Wildcats, who went 22-12. Thomas said the Knicks worked out Morris before the 2005 draft and considered taking him.

If Morris had been in this year's draft, Thomas guessed he would have been "one of the top 15 to 20 guys."

Thomas likes Morris' hands and his ability to score inside. He should benefit from New York's offensive system, which puts premium on getting the ball to the post.

"He'll benefit from us pounding it inside, and it will give us more options to go inside," Thomas said. "He has played in a big-time program. He's used to playing in front of big crowds. He played for a tough coach, so we're getting a player who has more or less been through the wringers and been through the wars and rigors of college."
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3/23/2007  10:07 PM
>>If he could have gone anywhere, why did he pick the knicks ?

Isiah got the hook up.

You go Zeke.
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3/23/2007  10:07 PM
I thought we need an established shot blocker and a shooter
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3/23/2007  10:09 PM
Does Isiah really deserve the credit for this one? Maybe Glen Grunwald is getting cut a little short for his role in this?
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