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What area should Curry improve this off-season?


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kam77
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If you could focus Curry's training on only one area of his game, which one? Or do you think he just needs to improve gradually in all areas?
Crashing the boards
Swatting shots, getting blocks and intimidating
Passing better - less TOs more assists
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Bippity10
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3/20/2007  5:07 PM
Posted by kam77:
Posted by Bippity10:
Posted by kam77:

Weaknesses being Rebounds and Shotblocking. I can't believe folks here think Eddys going to become a block-monster, yet thats #1 on the wish list.

I think conditioning and effort can be coached and coaxed out of a player and Isiah can take care of that with Eddy.

But realistically, if Eddy Curry is going to improve significantly in ONE offseason, it will be by focusing on being an even bigger offensive threat and cutting down the miscues. I have no problem having an offensive monster who is not a rebounder/defender because i think you can find a PF or SF to do those things if you have to, but its much harder to find an offensive force like Curry.

See I disagree. I think he can improve his effort and rebounding overnight. Just by trying harder. The passing out of the dobule teams and cutting down on miscues is the harder thing to learn. The reality is that it seems like you are disparaging people just because they don't agree with you as to what his main weakness is. Most knowledgeable fans can accept his faults as a player. But they can't accept his personal flaws like laziness. Charlie Ward had 1/100 his talent and 1/100000000000 of his critics. Same with Charles Oakley and mase and the rest. Why? Because they worked hard. People see Curry they know he can become a better rebounder overnight and want him to do it. Until he makes the personal choice to try harder he will be criticized. Try doing one thing on any job and letting the rest go by the wayside and you will be criticized. That's life.

AS for building the team, I agree with you. We can build a team where we focus on Eddie's offense and get others at the PF position to do some of the dirty work. But that probably means we will have to rid ourselves of some of the younger guys on the team to obtain legitimate players that can do this. Are you on board with this? Or should we keep going the MLE route?

I'm on board with it Bip! N8, Collins, Crawford, even Frye even Lee. You gotta do what you gotta do.

The reality is that it seems like you are disparaging people just because they don't agree with you as to what his main weakness is.

You're really stretching if you think i'm disparaging people though.

In fact aren't you the one on the other thread who says things to other posters like "You know what i noticed about the lovers, they never answer your question and they instead do this"

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That's not disparaging, it's just stating truth. Optimists have never answered any question I've ever put forth. They hate the tough questions because they may not have positive answers. That's all. I don't think there is an insult in there. Just an observation that's all.
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3/20/2007  5:33 PM
Posted by oohah:

I don't think it's about weight. In fact, Curry's weight is his greatest physical asset.

What he needs to do is exchange some of that fat for muscle, make himself more Barkley-esque.

To me, even if he stays in the same type of shape, what he needs to do the most is smarten up.

And what about a jumper? Not a long jumper, but if he can fashion a reliable jumper out to 8-10 feet, it's all over fellas, he will not be guard-able.

oohah

He is still alittle too big. He is breaking down right now because of alittle bit too much weight for the minutes he plays. If he ever really plays at 285(he isn't now I don't care how many times Clydes says it) then he'll do way better. Only 10 or 15 pounds over the summer is all he needs to lose to build on the great season he just had.......

[Edited by - anji on 03-20-2007 5:34 PM]
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3/20/2007  6:53 PM
I don't think he'll ever be a great shot blocker, he doesn't jump very high and his timing seems to be way way off.

BUT, I think if he could learn to position himself and intimidate pnetrators just so that he altered a shot, or made a driving opponent pull back, that would reap dividends for us, it would change the game dramatically in terms of how teams run their offenses.
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3/20/2007  7:53 PM
I'd like to see him take some charges.

Edit: its all about making stops and getting back the ball. Eddys timing is terrible but he has happy feet. A lot of times if he would step in and get position and take a charge it would be even better.

Also in the fourth quarter if eddy has 2 fouls what is the point? If eddy can't block he still has 6 good hard fouls to make. Eddy is good for at least 2 offensive. Ok well he still has 4 more bangers to throw.

He just has to learn it and study it. He has to play the game smarter. Shot blocking is an instinct think more than an effort thing. Eddy can't learn that. He can learn the game and where to be in order to make an efficient stop.

Bottom line: he can be a puss for the first 3 quarters. That last 12 minutes he's got to make use of his fouls and just get gully. A lot of times the refs let things go down the stretch. I'm hoping he can focus on **** like that and not whether or not he's in an all-star game.

[Edited by - enyspree on 20-03-2007 8:33 PM]
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3/20/2007  8:19 PM
GETTING IN SHAPE.
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3/20/2007  8:35 PM
Posted by Anji:
Posted by oohah:

I don't think it's about weight. In fact, Curry's weight is his greatest physical asset.

What he needs to do is exchange some of that fat for muscle, make himself more Barkley-esque.

To me, even if he stays in the same type of shape, what he needs to do the most is smarten up.

And what about a jumper? Not a long jumper, but if he can fashion a reliable jumper out to 8-10 feet, it's all over fellas, he will not be guard-able.

oohah

He is still alittle too big. He is breaking down right now because of alittle bit too much weight for the minutes he plays. If he ever really plays at 285(he isn't now I don't care how many times Clydes says it) then he'll do way better. Only 10 or 15 pounds over the summer is all he needs to lose to build on the great season he just had.......

[Edited by - anji on 03-20-2007 5:34 PM]

I actually agree with oohah. He is fine at his weight, but he needs to work on his conditioning. If you turn around and make Curry 6-11, 270, it takes away 15 pounds of advantage, especially with his moves which are mainly power based moves.
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3/20/2007  10:39 PM
free throw shooting is probably the most realistic aspect that can improve in the offseason, since Lee took care of that during his summer. oh, if only. can you imagine Curry's body with lee's work ethic?????
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3/21/2007  12:10 AM
Posted by joec32033:
Posted by Anji:
Posted by oohah:

I don't think it's about weight. In fact, Curry's weight is his greatest physical asset.

What he needs to do is exchange some of that fat for muscle, make himself more Barkley-esque.

To me, even if he stays in the same type of shape, what he needs to do the most is smarten up.

And what about a jumper? Not a long jumper, but if he can fashion a reliable jumper out to 8-10 feet, it's all over fellas, he will not be guard-able.

oohah

He is still alittle too big. He is breaking down right now because of alittle bit too much weight for the minutes he plays. If he ever really plays at 285(he isn't now I don't care how many times Clydes says it) then he'll do way better. Only 10 or 15 pounds over the summer is all he needs to lose to build on the great season he just had.......

[Edited by - anji on 03-20-2007 5:34 PM]

I actually agree with oohah. He is fine at his weight, but he needs to work on his conditioning. If you turn around and make Curry 6-11, 270, it takes away 15 pounds of advantage, especially with his moves which are mainly power based moves.

Curry isn't 285 though. He is 3Bills and he needs to loss a little weight. Im not talking 35 pounds, 10 would be great.
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3/21/2007  12:44 AM
For starters, his dip in play of late, which a lot of people attribute to Crawford being out and their chemistry together, may have more to do with the fact that Curry has logged more minutes this season then he ever has, by far. He's played in virtually every game (I believe he missed one), he has to be worn down some. With his 38 minutes tonight hes up over 2300 on the year, his most ever. Playing over 35 minutes a night on the year and thats even misleading cause in November he was playing in the low 30s. Since December hes been playing in the mid to high 40s every night. That can explain a dip in play of late. So obviously, Id like to see Curry come in better conditioned, and quicker.

Drop 10-15 lbs, hed still be a dominant physical presence on the block but would also be quicker which would help him a lot defensively. Many guys (not all) who arent good defenders generally arent because they arent in great condition and dont want to exert a lot of effort on the defensive side of the floor, especially if they are relied upon heavily offensively. I think Curry has to get in better shape, and I think thats the most important thing<p>

He also has to be a better passer out of doubles, but I think that can be worked out. He's seen a lot of different looks from defenses this year, its been a great learning year for him.
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3/21/2007  12:45 AM
Meant to write "hes been playing in the mid to high 30's", not 40s
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3/21/2007  1:41 AM
Posted by Killa4luv:

I don't think he'll ever be a great shot blocker, he doesn't jump very high and his timing seems to be way way off.

i agree... u know what i notice about him, when he goes up to block a shot, he doesn't extend his arm before the guy shoots it... he tries to time his jump & the block by swatting at it, but usually he's a half step too late & the shot goes in or over his swat attempt... a more instinctual shotblocker like Okafor, Alonzo or Dikembe would extend their arm first, make the other player adjust his shot, & then adjust to that w/the outstretched hand to block the shot... Eddy doesn't have those instincts.
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3/21/2007  5:32 AM
Posted by Anji:
Posted by joec32033:
Posted by Anji:
Posted by oohah:

I don't think it's about weight. In fact, Curry's weight is his greatest physical asset.

What he needs to do is exchange some of that fat for muscle, make himself more Barkley-esque.

To me, even if he stays in the same type of shape, what he needs to do the most is smarten up.

And what about a jumper? Not a long jumper, but if he can fashion a reliable jumper out to 8-10 feet, it's all over fellas, he will not be guard-able.

oohah

He is still alittle too big. He is breaking down right now because of alittle bit too much weight for the minutes he plays. If he ever really plays at 285(he isn't now I don't care how many times Clydes says it) then he'll do way better. Only 10 or 15 pounds over the summer is all he needs to lose to build on the great season he just had.......

[Edited by - anji on 03-20-2007 5:34 PM]

I actually agree with oohah. He is fine at his weight, but he needs to work on his conditioning. If you turn around and make Curry 6-11, 270, it takes away 15 pounds of advantage, especially with his moves which are mainly power based moves.

Curry isn't 285 though. He is 3Bills and he needs to loss a little weight. Im not talking 35 pounds, 10 would be great.

As long as he stays around a solid 285(that he plays on), that would be best. that 285 doesn't impede him and he carries it well. I think his conditioning is more of a concern, and he is improving that a little. He is playing a career high in minutes per, which as expected would cause him to hit a wall.

Also I didn't choose rebounding because I see his rebounding improvin as this season is going on. He just needs to find consistency in rebounding. He needs to work on the skill of shotblocking.
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