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misterearl
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4/13/2007  8:59 PM
who dares to think that Mister ("can I get me a triple-double?") Mardy Collins...is (gulp) better than Marcus Williams?

(Besides the balanced contributions, Mardy also plays killer DEFENSE)

...hold up, you mean all that gnashing of teeth over the draft was for nothing?

hold up indeed
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4/13/2007  9:06 PM
Posted by WOODMANnYk:

No! Mardy Collins reminds us alot like another temple alumni. Aaron Mckie, 6'5 pg/sg who thinks pass 1st then shoot.

Since they both played for Mr.Chaney over at temple, i think they have the same style especially on the defensive end.

Mardy is going to be a decent player in the NBA. He'll be able to do the little things that counts.


SAID it before about MArdy so im not surprise.. he does the little things along with defense and passing the ball intelligently..
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4/13/2007  9:40 PM
Posted by WOODMANnYk:
Posted by WOODMANnYk:

No! Mardy Collins reminds us alot like another temple alumni. Aaron Mckie, 6'5 pg/sg who thinks pass 1st then shoot.

Since they both played for Mr.Chaney over at temple, i think they have the same style especially on the defensive end.

Mardy is going to be a decent player in the NBA. He'll be able to do the little things that counts.


SAID it before about MArdy so im not surprise.. he does the little things along with defense and passing the ball intelligently..

He started the game off well tonight (statistically), but really fell apart with his shooting in the 3rd and 4th quarters, if I remember right.
Kid has game. He was one a good pace going into the half, but the second half hasn't been there tonight, so far.
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4/13/2007  9:42 PM
earthman - can you say "sea legs"?

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4/13/2007  9:43 PM
19 8 and 5 fromANY rookie is reason to smile

The Great Marcus Williams had 6

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4/13/2007  9:46 PM
Hey, I'm a Mardy supporter. I really really like the guy. He can be a solid PG in this league. He plays very very good defense, plays multiple positions, has a head on his shoulder, can rebound excellent for his size, can get by people, free throws need improving and are, shot needs improving and appears to have been lately.

Remember too, he was a Lottery selection earlier in the year. Just to be in consideration for that at some point in the year means you probably got some kind of game.
He's showing it, still a rookie, making some careless mistakes, but not many.
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4/13/2007  9:54 PM
Here they come misterearl.
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4/13/2007  10:27 PM
Posted by NYKresurrection:

Here they come misterearl.

You should go looking through posts and find me one post where I badmouthed him.
Because I make an honest comment about the game tonight? I don't understand.
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4/13/2007  10:28 PM
i like Mardy too... he's got a nice well rounded game... once he gets that perimeter jumper to be more consistent, he'll be a nice player to have... he's already a solid backup, but he can be more & seems like he's got a better upside than most people around here gave him credit for (including myself).
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4/13/2007  11:06 PM
ISIAH strikes again!!! He wanted a bigger guard and he wanted a guard who defended. Mardy gives us all of that and he looks like he's going to be a solid offensive player in time. he doesn't have to be spectacular. I really like Mardy's game. He's showing more and more that he deserves to get PT and should see solid minutes next year at the point. The way he's been playing gives me confidence that we can look for a SF/SG and we should be good at PG. This will likely slide Nate to the last guard off the bench next year. Nate is best suited as an offensive burst guy. He can score in a hurry, but Mardy is a PG and there was a question in eveyone's mind about him, but not anymore. All he's done is gain confidence and get better.
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4/14/2007  4:21 AM
It really is amazing how good the kid can play now when he looked like he was absolutely lost at the beginning of the season. Just shows that the coaching staff is working with these guys and Balkman and Collins are paying attention and learning.
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4/14/2007  9:01 PM
Thing about mardy is that he is NOT afraid. Frank Williams looked scared **** his rookie year.

Someone posted a pick of Derek Harper and nobody flinched. I think that is a nice comparison.

Craw and Collins as the starters? Someone said that also and no one flinched.

Collins might not be ready to start yet but he has proven to be a better player than francis at the least.

Direction.

As of right now, I truly believe the knicks could stand pat in the backcourt. The knicks are totally solid back there. They DO need to delete francis and replace him with a rookie from this years draft.

Give isiah credit for building a backcourt that can compete and carry the team. He just has to figure out the front court. Frye and Jared are totally *****.
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4/15/2007  2:23 AM
in the grand scheme of things, a mardy collins thread, and a thread in which he's called a potential starter, or derek harper, could only mean one thing...the knicks had another bad season. it seems that every april, we start pointing towards our late 1st round picks and call them the next "this guy" or "that guy." and then the playoffs roll around and we're stuck at home watching. i understand knick fans need something to cheer about and something to be optimistic about but this cycle needs to stop.
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4/15/2007  9:16 AM
Posted by djsunyc:

in the grand scheme of things, a mardy collins thread, and a thread in which he's called a potential starter, or derek harper, could only mean one thing...the knicks had another bad season. it seems that every april, we start pointing towards our late 1st round picks and call them the next "this guy" or "that guy." and then the playoffs roll around and we're stuck at home watching. i understand knick fans need something to cheer about and something to be optimistic about but this cycle needs to stop.

With all do respect, there is a difference between saying "this guy is the next..." and "this guy reminds me of...".

Derek Harper is widely viewed as the best player to never make an All-Star game. My expectations of Collins are not THAT high, but his game/style is very similiar to DHarper, as was FWilliams' game.
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4/15/2007  9:26 AM
Posted by djsunyc:

in the grand scheme of things, a mardy collins thread, and a thread in which he's called a potential starter, or derek harper, could only mean one thing...the knicks had another bad season. it seems that every april, we start pointing towards our late 1st round picks and call them the next "this guy" or "that guy." and then the playoffs roll around and we're stuck at home watching. i understand knick fans need something to cheer about and something to be optimistic about but this cycle needs to stop.

DJ, why are you so concerned where a guy is drafted to address what type of impact he can in the NBA. Thats another cycle that must stop as well. I just want good talent, I don't care where they are drafted.
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4/15/2007  9:26 AM
Derek Harper is widely viewed as the best player to never make an All-Star game.

Byron Scott?

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4/15/2007  9:52 AM
Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by djsunyc:

in the grand scheme of things, a mardy collins thread, and a thread in which he's called a potential starter, or derek harper, could only mean one thing...the knicks had another bad season. it seems that every april, we start pointing towards our late 1st round picks and call them the next "this guy" or "that guy." and then the playoffs roll around and we're stuck at home watching. i understand knick fans need something to cheer about and something to be optimistic about but this cycle needs to stop.

DJ, why are you so concerned where a guy is drafted to address what type of impact he can in the NBA. Thats another cycle that must stop as well. I just want good talent, I don't care where they are drafted.

b/c more often than not, guys drafted 20+ are really just role players...and we are roster full of role players. we need some quality starters to push us to the next level and beyond.

the bulls are just as young as we are yet continue to win 45+ games and make the playoffs every year without a franchise superstar. why? b/c they draft higher in each draft so they are picking out of a better pool of players. better players (with good team building) = more wins. if you don't have a franchise superstar, you need to amass the best talent possible via the draft (which means drafting as high as possible and then you have to make the RIGHT choice that fit with a gm's plan).

there are 5 lottery picks starting for us: marbury, crawford, jeffries, frye and curry. now, why aren't we winning? it's not like all those guys are kids (like charlotte). marbury + crawford now have 17 years of experience. jeffries + curry now have 11 years of experience. thus, that brings up the arguments on why those lottery players were made available to us in the first place and/or the team building concepts of our gm.

there are VERY rare cases people find stars out of the lottery...VERY rare and we need STARS...not role players.
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4/15/2007  3:06 PM
In the grand scheme of things all the players play roles. The knicks just have to get better.

Marby and Harper comparision for me is just style of play. They both are big guards that play defense. Harper wasn't flashy, he was just a guy that played the game and took what was given to him in the game. I think Collins is that type of player. He's only played a few games with huge minutes but aside from rookie mistakes he looks great.

Down the stretch with an unproven guy like Collins playing with a bone head like francis? That is the problem right there. Collins still played some good ball. Nate was good too.

The big hole is channing and the hole left by an injured lee and Q. This is what needs to be fixed. as far as the front court its not that the knicks have role players, they have retards.

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Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by djsunyc:

in the grand scheme of things, a mardy collins thread, and a thread in which he's called a potential starter, or derek harper, could only mean one thing...the knicks had another bad season. it seems that every april, we start pointing towards our late 1st round picks and call them the next "this guy" or "that guy." and then the playoffs roll around and we're stuck at home watching. i understand knick fans need something to cheer about and something to be optimistic about but this cycle needs to stop.

DJ, why are you so concerned where a guy is drafted to address what type of impact he can in the NBA. Thats another cycle that must stop as well. I just want good talent, I don't care where they are drafted.

b/c more often than not, guys drafted 20+ are really just role players...and we are roster full of role players. we need some quality starters to push us to the next level and beyond.

the bulls are just as young as we are yet continue to win 45+ games and make the playoffs every year without a franchise superstar. why? b/c they draft higher in each draft so they are picking out of a better pool of players. better players (with good team building) = more wins. if you don't have a franchise superstar, you need to amass the best talent possible via the draft (which means drafting as high as possible and then you have to make the RIGHT choice that fit with a gm's plan).

there are 5 lottery picks starting for us: marbury, crawford, jeffries, frye and curry. now, why aren't we winning? it's not like all those guys are kids (like charlotte). marbury + crawford now have 17 years of experience. jeffries + curry now have 11 years of experience. thus, that brings up the arguments on why those lottery players were made available to us in the first place and/or the team building concepts of our gm.

there are VERY rare cases people find stars out of the lottery...VERY rare and we need STARS...not role players.

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4/16/2007  12:25 AM
Posted by buddapaw:
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by djsunyc:

in the grand scheme of things, a mardy collins thread, and a thread in which he's called a potential starter, or derek harper, could only mean one thing...the knicks had another bad season. it seems that every april, we start pointing towards our late 1st round picks and call them the next "this guy" or "that guy." and then the playoffs roll around and we're stuck at home watching. i understand knick fans need something to cheer about and something to be optimistic about but this cycle needs to stop.

DJ, why are you so concerned where a guy is drafted to address what type of impact he can in the NBA. Thats another cycle that must stop as well. I just want good talent, I don't care where they are drafted.

b/c more often than not, guys drafted 20+ are really just role players...and we are roster full of role players. we need some quality starters to push us to the next level and beyond.

the bulls are just as young as we are yet continue to win 45+ games and make the playoffs every year without a franchise superstar. why? b/c they draft higher in each draft so they are picking out of a better pool of players. better players (with good team building) = more wins. if you don't have a franchise superstar, you need to amass the best talent possible via the draft (which means drafting as high as possible and then you have to make the RIGHT choice that fit with a gm's plan).

there are 5 lottery picks starting for us: marbury, crawford, jeffries, frye and curry. now, why aren't we winning? it's not like all those guys are kids (like charlotte). marbury + crawford now have 17 years of experience. jeffries + curry now have 11 years of experience. thus, that brings up the arguments on why those lottery players were made available to us in the first place and/or the team building concepts of our gm.

there are VERY rare cases people find stars out of the lottery...VERY rare and we need STARS...not role players.

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