Posted by eViL:

Posted by BigC:

Hip Hop will never die to me as long as the Roots, Common, Kweli, Nas, Ghost keep and the underground keep on making albums.

Talib's new album with Madlib was hot. I got that **** when he released for free on the internet earlier this year.

Kweli has yet to make a bad album. I heard that Q-tip is suppose to make a new album also along with Pharoahe Monch. Also look out for Rakim this year.

Posted by nyk4ever:

Nas said it. Hip Hop is dead.

Hip-hop has been dead since Big Pun died. I'd say that's around 2000-2001. Something like that.

Nas had a big part in killing it. I hate nas by the way and for your information he wasn't the first to say hip-hop was dead. Please don't make that hypocrite into a prophet. This idiot is not Jimmy Hendrix of rap or the bob marley or whoever.

Fuck nas.

This message has been brought to you by the good folks at eny-hop. If you think you know you have now idea.

Thank you.

(I'm trying to catch up with this post bare with me)

deeng deeng deeng deeneeneendeeng, ice ice baby.

I think the big problem is that today's rap, (1) you don't see guys just having fun anymore; (2) no one's really that deep anymore. Like you don't see a Fu-Schnickens or a Black Sheep or a Tribe or a Pete Rock and CL Smooth anymore (although 9th Wonder is sorta like Pete the sequel in a way, but I digress). Like check these out. They're just having fun and having a good time OR they're actually telling a good story:







Stuff like this is what I miss the most.


[Edited by - K22 on 03-05-2007 8:40 PM]

You know rap is at an all time low when you have rappers faking shootouts to get publicity.

By the way what the hell happen to Canibus?

Posted by K22:

I think the big problem is that today's rap, (1) you don't see guys just having fun anymore; (2) no one's really that deep anymore. Like you don't see a Fu-Schnickens or a Black Sheep or a Tribe or a Pete Rock and CL Smooth anymore (although 9th Wonder is sorta like Pete the sequel in a way, but I digress). Like check these out. They're just having fun and having a good time OR they're actually telling a good story:







Stuff like this is what I miss the most.


[Edited by - K22 on 03-05-2007 8:40 PM]

OMG That Pete Rock ish is so Real. He's unquestionably in the all-time rap producers/emcees. He and C.L. was such a potent dup that got maybe a glimpse of love when they were in their prime. I listened to them almost everyday when I was in highschool.


Remember "The Basement" here are some one/two-liners from that joint


Swimmin In Them Beats Like a Dolphin So Call Me Don Shula


People, grab a tight hold of the sound Hard, snatchin raw papes off the shelves


Down by the dungeon with the cracks on the wall Buffoon I'm like a mink while you're soon to pimp a raccoon stole


To see a black man gettin paid on the regular Car with the cellular, fellas I'm tellin ya

CL Smooth dropped a solo album last September.


The best thing to do is just buy old school albums.


Also what is everyones top 10 rappers ever?

Posted by tomverve:

Music sales in general are down because of mp3s and the like. You'd have to take that into account before you could conclude that hip hop as a genre is declining.

What's happening in the area of media, mainly the three areas of music, film and newspaperes, they are competing heavily with the internet. What you would have normally bought in a store or at a newstand, or even a book store, the internet has a lot of stuff that is either free or that people could download. It undercuts sales for media. It has a profound effect on some material that is not as popular as other material. Hip Hop for one has had an image problem that it has been trying to make presentable to the public for one, combined with whats happening because of mass internet. And then there's the piracy issues. Did you know that all of the news stories that are done for the internet, at engines such as Yahoo and Google, are actually taken from newspapers, from the AP and it undercuts the sales of newspapers. The people who run the news companies do the footwork for newspapers, are finding that newspapers sales are down, because you can instantly get the news off of the internet. So if the newspaper sales are down, and news companies are struggling to make ends meet and keep foot reporters on staff, then who do you think is going to do the news? It's not going to be Yahoo or Google! How is sites like Yahoo and Google going to get they're news? It's a 'catch 22'! I use this as an example to what is happening to ALL media across the board. It's the physical world vs. the virtual world, except no one's figured out how to make big money yet off of the virtual world. Really, people are figuring it out, but it would require the entire industry to change, to meet those needs. This is sort of what is happening to music, especially music like hip hop. In film, theaters for instance have a hard time filling the seats, because now there is pay per view and many are willing to wait for the movie to come out on DVD, rather than pay $30 dollars to see one movie. And that's a part of why they charge so much. Catch 22! And don't forget about all the piracy that is going on. That might actually be the biggest problem there. Don't get me wrong, some of this media is making a killing in sales, but most of it is not. We still need the physical world to say that we were there. And the virtual world is a wonderful place. We would have never spoke to each other without an internet, and a message board such as this if not for the internet. The problem is in all of this is, someone has not figured out how to balance it all out yet. As far as hip hop is concerned, I think it is at a slow place right now, trying to figure itself out and it might require a drastic change. There are those who did' tell us that the Internet was going to even out the playing field, if any of you remember it's beginnings. They just didn't expect it to handicap some. Why do you think all of these old 60's and 70's rock bands have been going on tour again? They know that they're music is having a hard time selling in music stores, on CD. Tower Records is a good example of what happening there. So these old rock band (The Who, The Police and so on) are trying to influence another generation of young people, who get a lot of music off of Apple's .99 offer, per song, or as mentioned above, MP3's. The whole thing is a lot more complex than that, but that is fundamentally what is happening. The industry is changing and it just might eliminate some things along the way. But I don't see hip hop dissapearing. As long as you have an audience and a profit making format to offer the music, then it will survive.

Well if you don't care, then it shouldn't bother you, right? It's only media right? It's all just for interest and fun right? The least of our problems, right? We can sacrifice all of that, when it comes to water and food and fundamental human compassion, right?

It's a simple explanation of what is happening so people won't be so worried about it all. Because there are more important things to worry about.