Where is this bright future where are these increased wins coming from

we don't have a pg for the future, a sg, or a sf, although balkman in a few years could be the guy, we have no one that can make the post pass, lack outside shooting, interior defense and a very strong two way player....

we have no cap room and have to deal with jefferies and james

MS - how do the Knicks beat Seattle tonight?

Because Seattle has to stop eddy down low with wilcox or fortson who may foul out before tip off.....

Counterpoint

1. When Marbury sucked, he sat. It ain't that deep

2. Way to kick Crawford when he's injured.

3. Frye non existent? I don't think so.

4. Balkman has been unfairly benched? Benched? That's funny... I don't remember him as a starter.

5. He has refused to start the teams most important player, making excuses all year long. What you say? The Knicks most important player, Marbury, starts evey game he's healthy. He played 52 minutes against Atlanta.

6. The defense and play calling has been horrendous

Play calling? Did you say "play calling" MS? Play calling?

You never ever make a point....

1. Crawford sucked he never sat, he is held to a different standard

2. Frye has sucked all year and played like a *****, 9pts 5rbs those are chris mills numbers off the bench hardly an impact player

3. Balkman as in getting DNP's while jefferies the NBA's worst foward gets minutes and plays suspect d, while putting up big numbers 4pts 4rbs.

4. Lee is the teams most important player, Marbury is a close second when we are at full stregnth, right now you can say steph, but if francis was healthy it would be different....

We have played great d this season sure, dump it down to eddy or jamal ****s around with the ball for an hour

Posted by seaegg99:

Seems like some people have a personal dislike for IT and would like to see continued failure by the Knicks. I mean if we cant appreciate where we were for the past 5 to 6 years and where we are now then I just cant see any other reason.

I mean he is a work in progress just like the young team he is coaching. He does not have a veteran allstar cast like previous Knick coaches. The man built the team so why cant he have a chance to grow with it and see where it takes us. If we see that he is not progress with them as they grow then a change should be made.

Personally, I bought the NBA ticket this year for the first time because I knew he had some good young players and that they would resond to him. I knew this would bring a little excitement back to NY and Knick fans where ever they are.

I cant help but feel good. If he dosent deserve to get a chance to coach them then should?

I'm just interested at this point to see the Knicks continue the season into the playoffs. At this point--what is the sense to speculate anything about IT? The team ultimately will need some change--we are not as good as some of the teams who have no chance to make playoffs--we have had fortunate endings 5-1 OT and 3-4 buzzerbeaters--if this was inverted---then there should eb serious discussion i.e goodbye IT. Right now the reality is we should get 1 of those two spots 7 or 8--to many teams have big time players injured and the last 20 will take its toll on Nets. We lost Crawford, and while he does have major effect in some 4th Qs--you can see the subs make up for some differences--i.e balkman francis--teams just cant pull a steve francis out of their arse---he might be a little hurt--but He was good enough to easily dunk the ball off one dribble and put up 30 points--most teams have a CBA player like Jason Hart as the back up--we have max player--we should be the team with thge horses to get in and if so--iT deserves some credit--and he also has dolan by the cahones somewhat because he will have his own market

Posted by misterearl:

4949 - just in case you missed it

"It's realistic," Knicks coach Isiah Thomas said of the team's playoff chances.

"We are closer. The race is tighter. We're right where we hoped to be in March and April, playing meaningful games and having a chance to get in the playoffs, knocking on the door. I'm pleased with the way we're playing."

Now this is all funny. It's not like were dominating the league, about to take over 1st place from eveyone. We're playing under .500, for all season and we play in a lousy Conference. That's why we got a chance 'to squeeze in'. It's like a damn hockey team. Everyone makes it, no matter how good or how bad you are. Don't get me wrokng! I'm not against making to the playoffs. There's just always this big build-up, and it always explodes in your face.

>>IT is not even near the best coaches in the league but I want Knicks to be coached by the best... and be the best

ark - we can agree to disagree. But we can agree that we both want our beloved Knicks to have the best and BE the best.

Isiah Thomas has plenty of flaws. They have been discussed right down to every transaction, every draft pick and every single word of his game day quotes.

But he has also pulled a rabbit out of his hat and has the Knicks headed in the direction of the playoffs

I just want to know who the best available coaches are that you feel can take the Knicks to the next level.

Posted by seaegg99:

Seems like some people have a personal dislike for IT and would like to see continued failure by the Knicks. I mean if we cant appreciate where we were for the past 5 to 6 years and where we are now then I just cant see any other reason.

I mean he is a work in progress just like the young team he is coaching. He does not have a veteran allstar cast like previous Knick coaches. The man built the team so why cant he have a chance to grow with it and see where it takes us. If we see that he is not progress with them as they grow then a change should be made.

Personally, I bought the NBA ticket this year for the first time because I knew he had some good young players and that they would resond to him. I knew this would bring a little excitement back to NY and Knick fans where ever they are.

I cant help but feel good. If he dosent deserve to get a chance to coach them then should?

Well, well, well! Your new here. Welcome.

You really appreciate where we were 5-6 year ago? You liked it that we had some pretty broken down gigantic contracts on this team like Allen Houston or Larry Johnson? You liked it that as good as Camby showed that he could have been, he was injured during the worst possible times, including the playoffs. Are those the teams your talking about? I don't recall 'ever' having a veteran all-star cast on this team! The closest thing we had was Ewing and he couldn't beat jordan. As a matter of fact, the bulls man handled the Knicks three times, and when we finally got past them finally, it was because jordan took a year and half off, because of his father. And guess what? The Knicks went to the finals were again, Ewing couldn't beat Houston Rockets this time. But he still was the closest thing we had to an all-star cast, but it just wasn't good enough, because we never had an all-star cast! He for one never got the support that an all-star cast could give. The only reason went to the finals the last time was really because of Spreewell. And he was the closest thing we had to a star on this team about 6 years ago. So if you consider guys like Childs being an all-star cast, then I'd have to say your standards are pretty low.

The current team is in fact, yes, a work in progress. But the work in progress has been set back a few years once again. I challenge anyone to defend most of the contracts on this team and see what I mean by that. I mean we got some pretty expensive contracts, very highly paid players here, for being under .500 for so long. The problem is, if you spend big, then spend on the best, or when the best are available and willing to come to NY. We did not do that. Layden was a dummy for starting this mess and why Zeke followed suite, I just can no longer explain it. Especially with the poor 'all-star cast of players we now have on this team'. Granted, it is a young team and may still prosper, but again, for that amount of money, we most certainly should have been able to do better and gotten better results much quicker. Now if anyone is trying to save face, avoid the egg in the face, trying to downplay the embarrassment (and believe me, everyone in the league already knows), I then I believe you will only be fooling yourself. Now this may sound strange, but I do in fact wish the Knicks the very best and I hope they make me out of a complete liar here, but after about 27 seasons of watching them, I think I have a right to complain a little for having to have so long, only to see more of this crap that has been going on. I suppose you could say that I have had enough! I want results, I want real' results. Otherwise, it's simply time to change it all again.

Now if you are speaking purely of entertainment, then hey' sit back and enjoy the game, win or lose.

Yeah 4949, but what's up TONIGHT?

4. The East has been decimated with injuries
-Bucks: They would be ahead of us if they didn't lost Redd for half the season, the also lost bobby simmions
-Heat: We are not catching them because Shaq is motivated, however they were without Jason Williams and Oneal for the first half of the season and wade will likely miss close to 40 games
-Celts: Lose Paul Pierce for an extended period of time
-Nets: We would never be able to catch them if they hadn't lost two starter for the year

So that explains why they been struggling for the last couple of seasons? Otherwise, they'd be the elite' teams?