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Rich
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2/26/2007  11:53 PM
Posted by islesfan:
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Posted by Bonn1997:
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Posted by TrueBlue:
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Because he had poor coaching, as we have learned this season.

So yeah, inferior.


LMFAO why are Deng, Gordon, and Nocioni considered very good players under the same coaching staff Curry had?

Yet Curry has turned his game around under the present Knick staff.

LMFAO at you.
Let's not get crazy with words like "turned his game around." He's averaging THREE more points a game in seven more minutes on a team that will probably win ten less games than he did in his contract year.

Basketball isn't baseball. It's not merely about stats, it's about roles. Eddy is the go to guy on this team. That's a big responsibility that he has never had to shoulder before, and he has adjusted well to it.

Curry is THE go to guy??? So where was he in the 4th quarter of the Nets game?

I guess one game only has meaning when you decide it does, huh?
Posted by islesfan:

Wait, people are really using one game to discount his entire season and career???

That's freaking hysterical. I bet they're the same people who want others to exercise patience.

btw, If you want to criticize Isiah, the move he made that may have the most opportunity costs could be drafting Frye over Bynum.
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2/26/2007  11:56 PM
Posted by Rich:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by Rich:
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by Rich:
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by Rich:

Because he had poor coaching, as we have learned this season.

So yeah, inferior.


LMFAO why are Deng, Gordon, and Nocioni considered very good players under the same coaching staff Curry had?

Yet Curry has turned his game around under the present Knick staff.

LMFAO at you.
Let's not get crazy with words like "turned his game around." He's averaging THREE more points a game in seven more minutes on a team that will probably win ten less games than he did in his contract year.

Basketball isn't baseball. It's not merely about stats, it's about roles. Eddy is the go to guy on this team. That's a big responsibility that he has never had to shoulder before, and he has adjusted well to it.

Curry is THE go to guy??? So where was he in the 4th quarter of the Nets game?

I guess one game only has meaning when you decide it does, huh?
Posted by islesfan:

Wait, people are really using one game to discount his entire season and career???

That's freaking hysterical. I bet they're the same people who want others to exercise patience.

btw, If you want to criticize Isiah, the move he made that may have the most opportunity costs could be drafting Frye over Bynum.

Thanks, now that you mention it, where are all those games this season where Curry carries the team home to victory or is set up to take the last shot in close games?

Don't worry, I've already criticized Isiah about drafting that soft piece of crap and I'll continue to do so in the appropriate threads.
If it didn’t work in Phoenix with Nash and Stoutamire... it’s just not a winning formula. It’s an entertaining formula, but not a winning one. - Derek Harper talking about D'Antoni's System
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2/27/2007  12:03 AM
Islesfan & TrueBlue= the dirty you leave in the tube after a bath..................
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2/27/2007  12:05 AM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by Rich:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by Rich:
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by Rich:
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by Rich:

Because he had poor coaching, as we have learned this season.

So yeah, inferior.


LMFAO why are Deng, Gordon, and Nocioni considered very good players under the same coaching staff Curry had?

Yet Curry has turned his game around under the present Knick staff.

LMFAO at you.
Let's not get crazy with words like "turned his game around." He's averaging THREE more points a game in seven more minutes on a team that will probably win ten less games than he did in his contract year.

Basketball isn't baseball. It's not merely about stats, it's about roles. Eddy is the go to guy on this team. That's a big responsibility that he has never had to shoulder before, and he has adjusted well to it.

Curry is THE go to guy??? So where was he in the 4th quarter of the Nets game?

I guess one game only has meaning when you decide it does, huh?
Posted by islesfan:

Wait, people are really using one game to discount his entire season and career???

That's freaking hysterical. I bet they're the same people who want others to exercise patience.

btw, If you want to criticize Isiah, the move he made that may have the most opportunity costs could be drafting Frye over Bynum.

Thanks, now that you mention it, where are all those games this season where Curry carries the team home to victory or is set up to take the last shot in close games?

Don't worry, I've already criticized Isiah about drafting that soft piece of crap and I'll continue to do so in the appropriate threads.

Nonresponsive.
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2/27/2007  12:07 AM
Posted by Rich:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by Rich:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by Rich:
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by Rich:
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by Rich:

Because he had poor coaching, as we have learned this season.

So yeah, inferior.


LMFAO why are Deng, Gordon, and Nocioni considered very good players under the same coaching staff Curry had?

Yet Curry has turned his game around under the present Knick staff.

LMFAO at you.
Let's not get crazy with words like "turned his game around." He's averaging THREE more points a game in seven more minutes on a team that will probably win ten less games than he did in his contract year.

Basketball isn't baseball. It's not merely about stats, it's about roles. Eddy is the go to guy on this team. That's a big responsibility that he has never had to shoulder before, and he has adjusted well to it.

Curry is THE go to guy??? So where was he in the 4th quarter of the Nets game?

I guess one game only has meaning when you decide it does, huh?
Posted by islesfan:

Wait, people are really using one game to discount his entire season and career???

That's freaking hysterical. I bet they're the same people who want others to exercise patience.

btw, If you want to criticize Isiah, the move he made that may have the most opportunity costs could be drafting Frye over Bynum.

Thanks, now that you mention it, where are all those games this season where Curry carries the team home to victory or is set up to take the last shot in close games?

Don't worry, I've already criticized Isiah about drafting that soft piece of crap and I'll continue to do so in the appropriate threads.

Nonresponsive.

That's ok, I didn't think you'd respond.
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2/27/2007  12:09 AM
You waive your right for a response when you failed to acknowledge your double standard.
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2/27/2007  12:16 AM
Posted by Rich:

You waive your right for a response when you failed to acknowledge your double standard.

LMAO Right. You don't think that I could have thrown out his entire season from the start? I was trying to be nice.

Oh no, you're right, I knew Curry has been just so dominant at the end of games all season and that it's been him and not really Crawford that takes all the big shots at the end of games.

Geez, that's what I get or trying to take it easy on you by giving you one game when his entire season was an obvious example.

One game that is representative of the majority is a good example.

One game that isn't close to being representative of the majority is a bad example.

Ok, your change of subject is over. Now go find the games this season where Curry has been the go to guy.
If it didn’t work in Phoenix with Nash and Stoutamire... it’s just not a winning formula. It’s an entertaining formula, but not a winning one. - Derek Harper talking about D'Antoni's System
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2/27/2007  12:29 AM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by Rich:

You waive your right for a response when you failed to acknowledge your double standard.

LMAO Right. You don't think that I could have thrown out his entire season from the start? I was trying to be nice.

Oh no, you're right, I knew Curry has been just so dominant at the end of games all season and that it's been him and not really Crawford that takes all the big shots at the end of games.

Geez, that's what I get or trying to take it easy on you by giving you one game when his entire season was an obvious example.

One game that is representative of the majority is a good example.

One game that isn't close to being representative of the majority is a bad example.

Ok, your change of subject is over. Now go find the games this season where Curry has been the go to guy.

You don't watch the games, do you? He gets double and triple teamed.

Does one game matter or not?
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2/27/2007  12:34 AM
He's getting double and tripled team even when Crawford is dribbling the clock down and not even thinking about getting the ball to Curry?

Interesting.

One game that is representative of the majority is a good example.

One game that isn't close to being representative of the majority is a bad example.

I'm not going to say it again.
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2/27/2007  12:52 AM
Poor coaching?

Skiles isn't a poor coach, he's just not a babysitter or a player's rep like Thomas.

In fact, Zeke is the one whose a poor coach; he's just coddling Eddy, giving him confidence, all that jazz he did for JO.

Course seriously the guy needs to lose weight. He will never scratcht the surface is he doesnt get in tip top shape.

That's important for big men.

Literally big men.

[Edited by - bobs3304 on 02-27-2007 12:53 AM]
DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
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2/27/2007  1:01 AM
If Curry gets 20 points and Grabs 8 boards(Like he has done in the last 4-5 games) that's fine with me.....

[Edited by - anji on 02-27-2007 04:09 AM]
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2/27/2007  1:09 AM
Skiles has his good and has his bads...Let's say developing players isn't his thing...Maybe Curry was a lazy bum that didn't want to work hard and Skiles had enough of his sheit...How do you explain Tyson Chandler stepping up his game this year..

Chicago does enough to get to the playoffs..But they are really no threat..Maybe thats all it takes to make some happy..After all I'm the nitwit...



[Edited by - holfresh on 02-27-2007 01:09 AM]

[Edited by - holfresh on 02-27-2007 01:10 AM]
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2/27/2007  2:13 AM
Posted by islesfan:

He's getting double and tripled team even when Crawford is dribbling the clock down and not even thinking about getting the ball to Curry?

Interesting.

One game that is representative of the majority is a good example.

One game that isn't close to being representative of the majority is a bad example.

I'm not going to say it again.

That's not the way the offense is run. Isiah makes mistakes. Duh. But he is double and tripled teams for large portions of games.

That's absurd. Any player can have a bad game. Curry's bad games aren't representative of his season, because there aren't many better low post players in the NBA.

That's true whether you look at one game or a majority of games.

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2/27/2007  8:43 AM
Curry leads the league in points in the paint, the same paint that players the calliber of Shaq, Duncan, Anthony, Wade, Parker, Howard etc collect most of there points. Thats hardly anything to ignore.

Its not about building around Curry, you build with him. Put Curry on that Bulls team right now, and they are pick-em with the Pistons to go to the finals. Its about putting the right pieces around him.

And yes, I have seen teams surround Curry front and back while the guards stand around the perimeter pounding the rock. Teams that are known as man-to man choose to play zone strictly becaue of Curry's presence. He gets the other big men in early foul trouble which not only gets the other teams top interior player off the hardwood, but it gets the opposing team over the foul limit early and often which in turn puts us at the top of the league in freethrow attempts.
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2/27/2007  8:43 AM
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by Rich:

Because he had poor coaching, as we have learned this season.

So yeah, inferior.


LMFAO why are Deng, Gordon, and Nocioni considered very good players under the same coaching staff Curry had?

Your very ticklish aren't you?
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2/27/2007  9:10 AM
Curry leads the league in points in the paint
Points given up in the paint on defense?
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2/27/2007  9:14 AM
What's the hubub bub?
CAREER AVERAGES

Year Team G GS MPG FG% 3p% FT% OFF DEF RPG APG SPG BPG TO PF PPG
06-07 NYK 57 57 34.6 .593 .000 .619 2.5 4.6 7.1 0.8 0.4 0.5 3.40 3.40 19.6
Career 418 328 25.2 .546 1.000 .650 1.8 3.5 5.4 0.6 0.3 0.8 2.20 3.10 13.2

Eddy has show dramatic improvements this year.
He is +1.7 in total rpg from his career ave.
He is +1.1 in total def rpg from his career ave.
He is +0.7 in total off rpg from his career ave.
He is +6.4 in total ppg from his career ave.
He has a career high in FG% despite being the focal point of opposing defenses.

If you look at his numbers I don't think you can call him lazy. One thing that I have noticed about Eddy is just that he does not have the nose for the ball. Defensively or rebounding wise. Unfortunately, this is something you can't teach. Either you are an average rebounder or a great rebounder. As for blocking shots, I think he developed some bad habits in the past when he was continually in foul trouble early in the game. From there he just did not want to pick up anymore fouls hence he does not go after shots like. Also, he is just not built for blocking shots. He is in the mold of a Moses Malone(career 1.3 BPG), Willis Reed(career 1.1 BPG)...just a center with girth. Not the long skinnier type like Chamberlain, Russell, Motumbo, Ewing. Shaq is a diff monster all together.

I think people confuse his facial expressions to laziness. I see him trying to go for boards...he just goes to the wrong spot.

Eddy has shown significant improvement from years past.
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2/27/2007  9:43 AM
Posted by holfresh:

Skiles has his good and has his bads...Let's say developing players isn't his thing...Maybe Curry was a lazy bum that didn't want to work hard and Skiles had enough of his sheit...How do you explain Tyson Chandler stepping up his game this year..

Chicago does enough to get to the playoffs..But they are really no threat..Maybe thats all it takes to make some happy..After all I'm the nitwit...



[Edited by - holfresh on 02-27-2007 01:09 AM]

[Edited by - holfresh on 02-27-2007 01:10 AM]


Uhhhhh No worst or better than ISAYUGH right?

On second thought let's say better in the case of Skiles.

We can see so much progress in Nate, Frye, Balkman, and Mardy this yr under ISAYUGH. ISAYUGH can only hang his hat on Lee and Curry meanwhile Skiles can hang his hat on Gordon, Deng, Nocioni, and even Kirk Hinrich who are all having their best seasons as a pro under his watch. But don't let FACTS get in the way of your NITWITTED AGENDAS.


Word of Advice...... think real hard and long before you type.


[Edited by - TrueBlue on 02-27-2007 08:47 AM]
LMFAO @ the Bio [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephon_Marbury[/url]
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Posted by NYKBocker:

Year Team G GS MPG FG% 3p% FT% OFF DEF RPG APG SPG BPG TO PF PPG
06-07 NYK 57 57 34.6 .593 .000 .619 2.5 4.6 7.1 0.8 0.4 0.5 3.40 3.40 19.6
Career 418 328 25.2 .546 1.000 .650 1.8 3.5 5.4 0.6 0.3 0.8 2.20 3.10 13.2

Eddy has show dramatic improvements this year.
He is +1.7 in total rpg from his career ave.
He is +1.1 in total def rpg from his career ave.
He is +0.7 in total off rpg from his career ave.
He is +6.4 in total ppg from his career ave.
He has a career high in FG% despite being the focal point of opposing defenses.

You left off the decrease in blocks, Eddy fouling at a lower rate, and Eddy showing ZERO improvement in the other areas you failed to mention. Could it just be that Eddy success is due to being on the court more? Eddy is one the court more for two reasons: 1) He's not playing hard on defense, so he's fouling at a lower rate than in the past. 2) Eddy's not expending energy on defense, to preserve his energy on offense.

Aren't those the REAL reasons Eddy is showing improved "success" this season? Aren't those the same reasons he DIDN'T get selected to the all-star team?

Now, despite his numerous flaws, Eddy thinks he's a star. Do you really think he's going to work on improving the areas that get no recognition from Isiah Thomas? Why would he? He's already a star!!!!!
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2/27/2007  9:58 AM
Eddie's also hitting his shots at an 80%+ clip over the last several weeks... that's sorta another reason why he's on the court.
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