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rojasmas
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2/18/2007  10:27 PM
I wouldn't trade Curry for Lewis, even if they also gave a #1. It will be middle of the pack. Would they even want Frye or Nate?
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2/18/2007  10:58 PM
Posted by djsunyc:


the problem is that this team should run it more but since our focal point is curry, it's difficult to do. just like in our rebulding efforts where we are stuck in between win now and rebuild, we are also stuck between 1/2 court and open court.


EXACTLY.

And thats the thing that bugs me thte most.

Curry would be great on Chicago. Hell if they had kept him and just traded Chandler, they'd be gold right now.

Even a team like LA could do good with him, or maybe Atlanta.


Look at our team........ 70% of it is uptempo players -- Balkman, Crawford, Lee, Nate, Jefferies, etc, etc.

Isiah didn't have the gameplan or patience to build this team right.


Let's face it, he put ALL his eggs in 1 basket -- The Curry basket.


It really pains me, b/c if our lineup had a Greg Oden in the lineup (*cough* draft pick), you take out Curry and sub him in, we're the best run and gun team in the East.

Oden
Lee
QRich
Crawford
Marbury


Hell, trade for Lewis while you're at it...
DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
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2/18/2007  11:08 PM
Lewis is a big time improvement over Q. I would worry about getting the team good and then about getting a title.
Balkman is rookie still developing, JJ2 is a mistake and Q is often injuried. A small trade of Frye and filler for Lewis and a second rounder is find by me.
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2/18/2007  11:41 PM
We don't need defense.

We don't need offense.

We need to make the playoffs.

Take that for now.
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2/19/2007  7:48 AM
Posted by rojasmas:

I wouldn't trade Curry for Lewis, even if they also gave a #1. It will be middle of the pack. Would they even want Frye or Nate?
It depends on how you want to build a team. I'd rather build with versatile 2-way players than with one dimensional players and I believe you can get versatile 2-way player in the middle of the lottery.
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2/19/2007  8:48 AM
Posted by Bonn1997:

Curry, Frye, and Nate for Lewis and their #1 pick this year?

This has got to be the MOST ridiculous trade proposal I have ever seen. What a terrible trade this is. Don't ever put down an isiah move after this crap. This would set back the franchise at least 5 years.
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2/19/2007  9:29 AM
Rose, Frye and Nate for Lewis and a #2 this year.
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2/19/2007  9:57 AM
Posted by BigRedDog:
Posted by Bonn1997:

Curry, Frye, and Nate for Lewis and their #1 pick this year?

This has got to be the MOST ridiculous trade proposal I have ever seen. What a terrible trade this is. Don't ever put down an isiah move after this crap. This would set back the franchise at least 5 years.

Not to pile on, but I have to agree. The lack of respect people have for our own players is amazing. Curry is a top-ten center in this league even without playing a lick of defense. If he actually improves his defense and passing, he will easily be a top-5 center. To give up Curry and frye and Nate for Lewis (who might not even resign with us) and a 1# draft is pick is a bad deal. At the very least, you would have to wait and see if the pick turns out to be a top-2 pick.
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2/19/2007  10:24 AM
I agree that the front line defense is bad but the perimeter defense is just as bad. What guards havent killed us this year? Crawford and Steph are veterens and still cant guard. At least Lee and Frye are young and can get better. I think Curry just refuses to play defense and uses his energy on the offensive. This team needs a defender on the perimeter as bad as the inside. Hamilton, Atkins, Carrroll was painful to watch this year.
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2/19/2007  10:46 AM
Posted by King1:

I agree that the front line defense is bad but the perimeter defense is just as bad. What guards havent killed us this year? Crawford and Steph are veterens and still cant guard. At least Lee and Frye are young and can get better. I think Curry just refuses to play defense and uses his energy on the offensive. This team needs a defender on the perimeter as bad as the inside. Hamilton, Atkins, Carrroll was painful to watch this year.

it's strange to me that Marb finally is playing some sort of D this year. It's still on and off. Where was this before?
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2/19/2007  10:51 AM
Posted by martin:
Posted by King1:

I agree that the front line defense is bad but the perimeter defense is just as bad. What guards havent killed us this year? Crawford and Steph are veterens and still cant guard. At least Lee and Frye are young and can get better. I think Curry just refuses to play defense and uses his energy on the offensive. This team needs a defender on the perimeter as bad as the inside. Hamilton, Atkins, Carrroll was painful to watch this year.

it's strange to me that Marb finally is playing some sort of D this year. It's still on and off. Where was this before?

Correct me if I am wrong but Marbury is actually paying hurt. I think he has been for the last two years. I haven't watch much games this year but it seems to be the same issue going back to 2004 (after the Olympics). Possible wear and tear from 04. I think that is one of the major reasons why he has to give it all at certain times.
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2/19/2007  10:52 AM
Posted by King1:

I agree that the front line defense is bad but the perimeter defense is just as bad. What guards havent killed us this year? Crawford and Steph are veterens and still cant guard. At least Lee and Frye are young and can get better. I think Curry just refuses to play defense and uses his energy on the offensive. This team needs a defender on the perimeter as bad as the inside. Hamilton, Atkins, Carrroll was painful to watch this year.



Our perimeter defense is bad - but I actually dont think it is AS bad as the interiour D. At least we have guys like Jeffries/QRich/Balkman/Stephon(most nights) that can gaurd people. Sure Jamal struggles sometimes and DLEE should not be on the perimeter chasing guys around... But I'm more comfortable with out outside defenders.

Inside is just a train wreck. Curry is beyond horrible. Frye isnt much better... Lee im not that mad at honestly he just needs to learn how to give a hard foul to avoid giving up and 1s.

[Edited by - elite on 02-19-2007 03:54 AM]
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2/19/2007  12:24 PM
Posted by BigRedDog:
Posted by Bonn1997:

Curry, Frye, and Nate for Lewis and their #1 pick this year?

This has got to be the MOST ridiculous trade proposal I have ever seen. What a terrible trade this is. Don't ever put down an isiah move after this crap. This would set back the franchise at least 5 years.
What set the franchise back 5 years was giving up four draft picks (two in the lottery) to build around a one-dimensional player.
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2/19/2007  12:38 PM
heres a deal I might do:

Frye/QRich/Jerome James for Rashard Lewis/Chris Wilcox


It works under the cap, we dump Jerome... Upgrade Q Rich.. and get a young kid wit potential in exchange for our young kid wit potential.

Still tho I think we are better off staying put
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2/19/2007  12:39 PM
and im sure seattle would not do that
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2/19/2007  12:58 PM
I think its a good thing to have both half court and uptempo players. All the great teams can do both. Every team that has won a championship were good at both. The showtime lakers had an awesome fast break. Yet they still had jabbar to dump it to along with worthy and magic. Byron Scott was effective running and in the half.

Not just them but birds celtics, Moses and the sixers isiahs pistons, the bulls, the spurs, Lakers, and Miami. even both of our Knick team that went to the finals were a good half court and uptempo team.

Knicks are still not there either way. They could be with a trade or two. Isiah can still hold on to the draft pick and a hand full of the young guys.
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2/19/2007  1:06 PM
Rashard is a deal you must do. The guy can defend and I would say his defense is a little better than Q's. His defense is average or I would say a little above average meaning he can hold his own. He can rebound and get steals. Anyone that thinks Rashard does not have game has not seen him play. He can create off the dribble and post up. THe guy shoots like 47% and he mixes it up with shots and drives to the hole.

Listen Rashard is better than Jamal and Q. If we have him on the team he should be the second option next to Curry. He is even good enough to be our first option in the East. I don't think there is a player that can check him on defense.

I have watched him since he first came into the league
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2/19/2007  1:47 PM
Just to update this thread

http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/44771/20070219/robinson_to_seattle_discussed/
Robinson To Seattle Discussed?
19th February, 2007 - 12:54 pm
New York Post -
There are rumors that Nate Robinson and Channing Frye could be dealt to the Sonics in exchange for Rashard Lewis.

Frye was the subject of many trade rumors last season and again is unlikely to be dealt.
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2/19/2007  1:48 PM
that dont even work under the cap
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2/19/2007  1:54 PM
Rashard is a good player but the Seattle Gm already laughed at the rumors making public statements saying Ray Allen wasn't going anywhere and if rashard and Allen weren't hurt they would be contending.

Seattle would be stupid not to try and dump ray and rashard. They cant bank their whole future on the health of 2 perimeter guys especially if one is over 30.

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