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djsunyc
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1/29/2007  1:24 PM
Posted by Bonn1997:

I'd rather trade Curry for this guy:

brent barry?
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1/29/2007  1:32 PM
Posted by tkf:

bobs, you make a good argument here, but I don't know about such a trade unless the sonics threw in their pick. But Lewis is a flawed player also, he loves to spot up a lot, he isn't that good of a defender, nor creator off the dribble. Curry is a low post scorer, I will take that over a jump shooter at this point, but If their pick, unprotected was included, I might bite..



Lewis is a flawed player?

Ya.........he is.

And Curry isn't?

You't take low post scoring over shooting?

So would I.

Only problem is that with the exception of Marbury, every single other player on this team is A.)MUCH better suited for an up and down game, and B.) Is signed through the rapture.


Would the Nuggets, Suns, or Nets trade for Curry?

Exactly.

So why did we?


B/c Isiah's a moron.

[Edited by - bobs3304 on 01-29-2007 1:33 PM]
DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
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1/29/2007  1:33 PM
Rashard isnt helping us.

I would see how this floats:

Eddy/Frye/Nate/Mardy + the Bulls this year for
Speedy/Zaza/Josh Smith

I'm looking for some toughness up front on both sides of the ball and some balance. Also we just have too many guys.

Play
Marbury/Speedy at the guards
Lee/Josh Smith at the forwards
Zaza at center
Bring Crawford/Q/Balkman/Cato off the bench

something like that... course we need a better coach and a new GM to make something like this happen
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1/29/2007  1:36 PM
[quote]
Posted by bobs3304:

Frye
Lee
Lewis
QRich
Crawford


this is not a fast team, if that's what you're trying to design. Marbs is not fast either. He's fast on his own but he doesn't run a fast break. Nate fits, Balkman definitely fits, Jeffries would be improved in a faster system.
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1/29/2007  1:41 PM
Posted by fishmike:

Rashard isnt helping us.

He has a PER of 22+. That's better than ANYONE on the team. He's one of the best shooters in the game, an above average rebounder, big size, great on the fast break, still young.

On a team that is both A.) suited to play uptempo and B.) devoid of any good shooters or even an All Star............how can you say that with a straight face?

I would see how this floats:

Eddy/Frye/Nate/Mardy + the Bulls this year for
Speedy/Zaza/Josh Smith

I'm looking for some toughness up front on both sides of the ball and some balance. Also we just have too many guys.


Not only would Atlanta probably laugh in your face, but that doesn't fix our problems either.

The Hawks had a chance to sign Curry outright 2 summers ago, but declined.

I've even chatted with Hawks fans -- they like Curry's game but he doesn't fit the team.

And let's just say hypothetically they would entertain a trade for him.

Do you really think Knicks management would trade him to the same ****ing Conference?

Not only that, but do you really think Atlanta would give up 2 frontcourt pieces to get 1?

I can see them maybe giving up Smith for Curry straight up, which is nice, but I honestly don't see it happening.

Who knows though...
DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
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1/29/2007  1:43 PM
Posted by JohnWallace44:

[quote]
Posted by bobs3304:

Frye
Lee
Lewis
QRich
Crawford


this is not a fast team, if that's what you're trying to design. Marbs is not fast either. He's fast on his own but he doesn't run a fast break. Nate fits, Balkman definitely fits, Jeffries would be improved in a faster system.


I never mentioned Marbury in any of this.

He's part of the dilemna too.

And yes, that team would be BLAZING fast.

ESPECIALLY when you throw in a shotblocker to replaced Frye (who I'd like to see in a 6th man role).
DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
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1/29/2007  1:51 PM
bobs.. Atlanta has wing guys already. They have Marvin and Childress, but 3's unless you think MArvin is a 4. They are getting Curry AND Frye back.. where's the 2 front court guys for 1?

Eddy was a FA once. When we signed him.

Ive seen plenty of Rashard. He's soft. He doesnt play D. He's a below average rebounder. He doesnt guard anyone. I dont care about his PER. We dont need another guy who sucks when the ball isnt in his hands.

As for trading to the same conference are you suggesting the KNicks management will do something that makes sense?

It would give the Hawks a lot of young players. Curry/Frye are a good fit next to Sheldon whom the really pumped up. It frees up the wings. They dump Speedy who's contract sucks.
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1/29/2007  1:57 PM
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by Bonn1997:

I'd rather trade Curry for this guy:

brent barry?

I was thinking Francisco Elson myself, obviously we need clarification.
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1/29/2007  1:59 PM
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by Bonn1997:

I'd rather trade Curry for this guy:

brent barry?

I was thinking Francisco Elson myself, obviously we need clarification.

Guys, obviously it was a typo and he meant to say guys. He was talking about Parker and Duncan.
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1/29/2007  2:01 PM
bobs: I live in Atlanta, I go to roughly 10-17 hawks home games per year, my friend is a season ticket holder right there on the floor, I used to have hawks season tickets and I talk to the fans all the time, and believe me, they wanted jackie butler last year, and they would love to have curry, their biggest problem is that they have too many wing players, actually 3 good ones, in josh, childress and marvin williams...
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1/29/2007  2:05 PM
Posted by bobs3304:

Grant Hill was a S&T.

McGrady wasn't a superstar.


You guys try too hard.

You're kidding, right?

So Detroit signed and traded Hill to Orlando because they didn't want to resign him and McGrady wasn't a superstar when he was traded to the Rockets??

HA!

Sure, and Nash wasn't an "established star" except he's sure paid like a superstar as he was one of the best PG's in the NBA.

Talk about revisionist history...

C'mon man...pass me some of what you're smokin'




[Edited by - PresIke on 01-29-2007 2:06 PM]

[Edited by - PresIke on 01-29-2007 2:09 PM]
Forum Po Po and #33 for a reason...
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1/29/2007  2:07 PM
The undervaluing of Curry by a good portion of Knick fans is becoming a running joke Seriously.

Curry for Iguodala?

Wow. Talk about low balling our own team.

[Edited by - PresIke on 01-29-2007 2:07 PM]
Forum Po Po and #33 for a reason...
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1/29/2007  2:10 PM
Posted by tkf:

they would love to have curry, their biggest problem is that they have too many wing players, actually 3 good ones, in josh, childress and marvin williams...


If they'd give up Josh for Curry, I'm listening...
DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
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1/29/2007  2:19 PM
Posted by PresIke:

The undervaluing of Curry by a good portion of Knick fans is becoming a running joke Seriously.

Curry for Iguodala?

Wow. Talk about low balling our own team.

[Edited by - PresIke on 01-29-2007 2:07 PM]
Any team built around versatile two way plays will outperform flawed unidimensional players.
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1/29/2007  2:23 PM
Posted by joec32033:
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by Bonn1997:

I'd rather trade Curry for this guy:

brent barry?

I was thinking Francisco Elson myself, obviously we need clarification.

Guys, obviously it was a typo and he meant to say guys. He was talking about Parker and Duncan.


Well on second thought Michael Finely is watching Iggy go up strong for the dunk not jumping or putting a hand up in his face in a Curry like fashion. He hit a game winner just yesterday against the Lakers so maybe just maybe he's talking about Finley.
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1/29/2007  2:24 PM
Posted by fishmike:

Eddy was a FA once. When we signed him.


We traded for him.

We haven't had cap space in 10 years.

Please stop giving management slack guys.

Signing and trading for a player is nowhere NEAR signing for him outright.


bobs.. Atlanta has wing guys already. They have Marvin and Childress, but 3's unless you think MArvin is a 4. They are getting Curry AND Frye back.. where's the 2 front court guys for 1?


This is true. I'd definitely look into 1 of them.

But there's NO WAY I'd give up both Frye and Curry.

1 or the other...


Ive seen plenty of Rashard. He's soft. He doesnt play D. He's a below average rebounder. He doesnt guard anyone. I dont care about his PER. We dont need another guy who sucks when the ball isnt in his hands.

He's not soft.

He's just a prototypical SF and not one of those quasi Shawn Marions or Kirilenkos. He scores from all over the court, he rebounds. He's an average defender. What we really need though is shooting........BADLY.

Josh Smith would make us just as exciting if not more, but he's not a presence inside, and all he does really is dunk.

He can't shoot, and his weakside shotblocking is perhaps a little overrated.

He's a highlight reel and not much else. That said, whatever defense he provides is infinitely more than what Curry does. And he's still very young and cheap.


I'm still going with Lewis though. The guy's a player.



[Edited by - bobs3304 on 01-29-2007 2:37 PM]
DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
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1/29/2007  2:44 PM
Is Eddy SO good that he warrants us COMPLETELY restructuring our roster just to build adequately around him with shooters, shotblockers, another star, and pass-1st PG's?


Or should we just drop him and go with the whole New York Suns idea?

Option A. We're never going to be the SUNS east. There's only one Nash. Jason Kidds team stinks. We cant copy the method without the pieces to fit the method. Better to build aroubnd Curry since even if nothing else, it aint bad to have shooters, shotblockers, and pass-1st pgs on your squad.
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1/29/2007  2:54 PM
Bobs, if rebounding and shot blocking is overrated why not just stick w/ Curry?

Josh Smith does a lot more than your giving him credit for.

As for giving up both Curry and Frye we are getting Zaza back, which is a better fit for us I think. He shores up the interior, and our frontline is tough and dominating on the boards in Lee/Smith/Zaza.

As for Curry being a FA, I know it was a sign and trade, but that was the first time he was available. We signed (and traded... settle down) when he was an RFA, so Chi could have matched offers from other clubs.

Rashard is soft. He's a good shooter. Whoop de doo
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1/29/2007  2:56 PM
^ Buddy youre missing my point.

In order to get those "shotblockers and shooters and pass-1st PG's", we're going to have to trade for them.

Half our ****ing team has LONGTERM contracts.

If you TRULY believe in Curry, then we'd have to find a way to trade all those bad contracts for the pieces we need, and that would take a few years atleast.

Orrrr.

We could just trade him for a piece that fits the uptempo philosophy better, and just go from there.
DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
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1/29/2007  4:15 PM
Hmm, since you're trying to work out a deal with Seattle...

How about 2 iced Starbucks coffees for Eddy Curry and a future 1st ?
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