Posted by TMS:

here's basically what i predicted for this season before the season began:

http://ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=17811

my picks for rankings in terms of total # of wins this season for each conference (not divisional playoff seedings):

Eastern Conference:

1 - Miami
2 - Chicago
3 - Detroit
4 - New Jersey
5 - Cleveland
6 - Indiana
7 - Washington
8 - Orlando

Prediction for the Knicks = 36 Wins

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Western Conference:

1 - San Antonio
2 - Dallas
3 - Phoenix
4 - Seattle
5 - LA Lakers
6 - Houston
7 - LA Clippers
8 - Denver

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NBA award projections:

MVP: LeBron James
ROY: Brandon Roy
Comeback: Amare Stoudamire
Most Improved: Eddy Curry
Sixth Man: Leandro Barbosa
Defensive POY: Ron Artest
Coach: Scott Skiles

First Team All-NBA: Duncan, Nowitzki, Nash, James, Wade
Second Team All-NBA: Wallace, Brand, Arenas, Kobe, Iverson
Third Team All-NBA: Howard, Garnett, Artest, Paul, McGrady

Hey TMS at least we agreed on who would make the playoffs from the East. That's who I picked from another meassage board I post on.

Posted by TrueBlue:




Actually if you do the math as their record stands 18-25=41.8% Take 41.8% X number of games left 39.........41.8%X39=16.3. 16+18=34WINS

hm thats not the same math i used. but I dont see why my method wouldnt work. the answer i got was 35 game,I dont feel like showing my work right now though.

Posted by TMS:

Posted by SlimPack:

the only trade assets we have that arent a core of the team are ones that arent all that good. and of course no cap space, or high draft picks.

realistically speaking, what other teams out there have great trade assets that AREN'T a part of their core foundation for the future? at least we now have a couple pieces that we can legitimately say can qualify in that regard, & that's something we haven't had here in a long time... & we can finally be in the conversation when a star player becomes available in a trade because we actually have some players that other teams would want to trade for, & that's a positive also.

well we do have a core, but we dont have a franchise player. its true that the knicks can trade for a star player though, but will that even help? how can we get one without giving up very helpful players?

Posted by TMS:

u have to give something good to get something good dude... that holds true for every team in the NBA... but i do happen to feel like we can trade Frye, Nate & CHI's pick for a player that can have a real impact on this team w/o having to give up Curry & Lee... throw in Balkman, Q & improved play from Marbs & that's a start.

what would that fetch us?

Have we really seen any out of this team, are they that much better than last year or is Q mentally healthy and eddy had a training camp and is in a little better shape???

Posted by TMS:

at best, maybe something like a Josh Smith or maybe Ron Artest... at worst, you can get 2 veteran role players who fill the needs on our team & get another 1st rounder for Isiah to tinker with in the draft IMO

[Edited by - TMS on 01-23-2007 4:24 PM]

crap I dont remember what I was arguing on this thread. anyway I think trading for ron artest would be a huge disaster, and its unlikely we can get smith.

also its unlikely Isiah will fill the needs of this roster successfully with vererans given his track record.

and besides, don't you think that the ceiling of this team is lower than what it should be? If Isiah does swing a trade for veterans (Isiah Thomas Style) the knicks will boost from bad to around just missing the playoffs next season. and then after that they might make the playoffs and and knocked out in the first round. but what then? think about it tms marbury is playing perhaps the best ball of his career right? and yet we are still only about a 35 win team, but what happens after his contract expires? I mean when he was out with a shoulder injury last season the knicks went like 2-22. even if the knicks are a better team by then I dont see any way for his production to be replaced and the knicks will have peaked at first round exit team.