Posted by fishmike:

Posted by djsunyc:

not for nothing, but their first game with all those players will be against us on saturday night. not good b/c they'll be superpumped and teams that usually make trades win those first home games.

kinda like Marbury was for his homecoming at the Garden vs. the Rockets right?

...except in our case....

Posted by crzymdups:

I have a feeling Indiana did this trade for chemistry issues - SJax is crazy and Al Harrington is selfish. They're great talents, but to my mind, even more disruptive personalities than a guy like Marbury.

I think Indiana lost on the talent end of things in this deal but will make improvements chemistry-wise. GSW is a collection of crazy scoring headcase wings at this rate: BDAvis, JRich, SJax, Al Harrington, Pietrus. Is Don Nelson trying to collect all the wings in the league?

Agreed, I think it had a lot to do with cleaning up their image.

I compare Troy to the Knicks getting Oakley to put next to Ewing. Troy's game doesn't require the ball the way Al's does. The trade also opens up the SF spot for Granger while making Dunleavy the 6th man which I think he'll excel at without the expectations. Diogu can also be a very useful piece.

For the Warriors, they got back some very talented players but ones with issues. It seems like they have too many guys who need the ball but it'll be up to Davis to make everyone happy. If they can mesh, they have a ton of firepower.

Troy & Tinsley for J Kidd? i don't see NJ doing it... & both teams are in the same conference.

i don't think there's any way they trade Jermaine unless they're getting back a bigman to take his place like in a Bynum/Odom package from the Lakers for example.

How does this help the Pacers?
Is Murphy much better than Foster?
Is Dunleavy better than Harrington?

Posted by SugarRayRichardson:

How does this help the Pacers?
Is Murphy much better than Foster?
Is Dunleavy better than Harrington?

i'm leaning with you here. the pacers took on more salary too- murphy and dunleavy have longer bigger contracts than harrington and jackson. seems to me like the pacers have too busy a frontcourt to get the most of diogu, and are a bit shallow in the backcourt. must have follow-up moves coming, but troy and mike jr will be tough to move again.

Posted by SugarRayRichardson:

If its chemistry issues then I understand. Ive played games at a high level and team chemistry is so important to me. I can never explain this fully to guys that just watch games or follow stats. I have had great players on my teams that were jerks on my team and we often did better once they were gone. Chemistry is the #1 thing I see in teams not talent

i agree, but seems like they're overpaying a bit for chemistry if that makes sense...

Posted by Masterplan:

Posted by SugarRayRichardson:

If its chemistry issues then I understand. Ive played games at a high level and team chemistry is so important to me. I can never explain this fully to guys that just watch games or follow stats. I have had great players on my teams that were jerks on my team and we often did better once they were gone. Chemistry is the #1 thing I see in teams not talent

i agree, but seems like they're overpaying a bit for chemistry if that makes sense...

I dont like the trade from the Pacers view and I dont know if their chemistry was even bad. Did JO have a problem with Harrington? I think the Pacers could have done better for harrington. I see a ton of reduncy on that team now. Maybe they will give us Granger now. :)

Posted by djsunyc:

indy took back alot of salary (down the road) so i think they're going to move one of their bigger deals.

maybe jermaine to the bulls for pj + t2 + duhon + our pick?

that sounds right on, give or take a piece or two...