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SugarRayRichardson
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1/13/2007  5:42 PM
Posted by Bonn1997:
2.) Because Eddie is our hope, we must build accordingly. We must target players that compliment his skills and make his game easier. In turn as he improves he will make those role players better as well. This includes a young PG that can take over when Marbs moves past his prime(so we aren't caught off guard for the inevitable). A rebounder at the PF position, which we may already have. An interior defender that can shut down opposing centers and allow Eddie to focus on O. And true dead eye shooters to spread the floor. It was rocket science when I brought it up during the pre-season. It was grounds for dismissal from the Knickfan kingdom. Now it's become obvious. If we continue with a "plan" and build we will improve. If we committ the mistakes of the past and focus on playoffs today, then we will level off like we have done many times in the past.

How do you watch all the games in Canada?
If you ran the team, is that really what you would do or would you tear down everything and start over? (I think most know I'd do the latter.)

I LOVED how Curry just exploded in the 4th, speaking as a fan of the Raptors, Curry looked well, scary I think is the word. Or Shaq-like Curry: 19.1ppg-7.3rpg-58%fg
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1/13/2007  6:58 PM
Posted by SugarRayRichardson:
Posted by Bonn1997:
2.) Because Eddie is our hope, we must build accordingly. We must target players that compliment his skills and make his game easier. In turn as he improves he will make those role players better as well. This includes a young PG that can take over when Marbs moves past his prime(so we aren't caught off guard for the inevitable). A rebounder at the PF position, which we may already have. An interior defender that can shut down opposing centers and allow Eddie to focus on O. And true dead eye shooters to spread the floor. It was rocket science when I brought it up during the pre-season. It was grounds for dismissal from the Knickfan kingdom. Now it's become obvious. If we continue with a "plan" and build we will improve. If we committ the mistakes of the past and focus on playoffs today, then we will level off like we have done many times in the past.

How do you watch all the games in Canada?
If you ran the team, is that really what you would do or would you tear down everything and start over? (I think most know I'd do the latter.)

I get and watch about 80% of the games on NBA League Pass. Does your TV block out the defensive end of the court?
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1/13/2007  7:01 PM
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by SugarRayRichardson:
Posted by Bonn1997:
2.) Because Eddie is our hope, we must build accordingly. We must target players that compliment his skills and make his game easier. In turn as he improves he will make those role players better as well. This includes a young PG that can take over when Marbs moves past his prime(so we aren't caught off guard for the inevitable). A rebounder at the PF position, which we may already have. An interior defender that can shut down opposing centers and allow Eddie to focus on O. And true dead eye shooters to spread the floor. It was rocket science when I brought it up during the pre-season. It was grounds for dismissal from the Knickfan kingdom. Now it's become obvious. If we continue with a "plan" and build we will improve. If we committ the mistakes of the past and focus on playoffs today, then we will level off like we have done many times in the past.

How do you watch all the games in Canada?
If you ran the team, is that really what you would do or would you tear down everything and start over? (I think most know I'd do the latter.)

I get and watch about 80% of the games on NBA League Pass. Does your TV block out the defensive end of the court?

I asked you because I did not think league pass was available in Canada in the past. No need to flip out. I watch both ends of the court. To be honest some of the things you say sometimes seems like you did not watch the game
I LOVED how Curry just exploded in the 4th, speaking as a fan of the Raptors, Curry looked well, scary I think is the word. Or Shaq-like Curry: 19.1ppg-7.3rpg-58%fg
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1/13/2007  7:04 PM
To be honest, I'll take that as a compliment
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1/13/2007  7:05 PM
I thought the same thing after he said Curry was only a role player.
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1/13/2007  7:08 PM
What IS his role besides scoring from within 5 feet? A few people got all pissy when I said that but no one can answer the question.

[Edited by - bonn1997 on 01-13-2007 7:08 PM]
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1/13/2007  7:09 PM
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by SugarRayRichardson:
Posted by Bonn1997:
2.) Because Eddie is our hope, we must build accordingly. We must target players that compliment his skills and make his game easier. In turn as he improves he will make those role players better as well. This includes a young PG that can take over when Marbs moves past his prime(so we aren't caught off guard for the inevitable). A rebounder at the PF position, which we may already have. An interior defender that can shut down opposing centers and allow Eddie to focus on O. And true dead eye shooters to spread the floor. It was rocket science when I brought it up during the pre-season. It was grounds for dismissal from the Knickfan kingdom. Now it's become obvious. If we continue with a "plan" and build we will improve. If we committ the mistakes of the past and focus on playoffs today, then we will level off like we have done many times in the past.

How do you watch all the games in Canada?
If you ran the team, is that really what you would do or would you tear down everything and start over? (I think most know I'd do the latter.)

I get and watch about 80% of the games on NBA League Pass. Does your TV block out the defensive end of the court?

that was f'n hilarious.
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1/13/2007  7:15 PM
Posted by Bonn1997:

What IS his role besides scoring from within 5 feet? A few people got all pissy when I said that but no one can answer the question.

[Edited by - bonn1997 on 01-13-2007 7:08 PM]

Yeah I always thought Shaq was over rated because his 3 point shots were so low. He could only score from 5 feet in. reminds me of that Chris Carter guy who Buddy Ryan said was no good because all he did was catch touchdowns, lol. :)
Currys role is to score at a very high rate. Usually in the top 3 in points per shot in the league.
To be such an efficient scorer that he commands doubles and triple that opens both the perimeter and lane for our other players
To help out on the boards. 7.2 rpg is average. * will be fine. 9 will be good.
He needs to defend his position. He almost always outscores the other teams center. But he has to get much better at his help defense.
I LOVED how Curry just exploded in the 4th, speaking as a fan of the Raptors, Curry looked well, scary I think is the word. Or Shaq-like Curry: 19.1ppg-7.3rpg-58%fg
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1/13/2007  7:16 PM
Im sure you see me blasting Currys D all over this forum. I know what kind of player Curry is. But to say hes "a role player" is just using the word wrong. Malik Rose is a role player. Hubert Davis was a role player. These are guys who perform in a limited capacity to bring one thing to the table. While that may sound like what Curry does, but he does it so well that you cant call him simply a role player. Otherwise youd have to say that Allan Houston was a role player. After all, he didnt play D, pass, or drive well. But his shot was so good that he was a very good player. Reggie Miller made a hall of fame career on shooting only too. Is he a role player?

Yes Curry plays no D and will only give you 7 1/2 rebounds a night but hes far from a role player as hes performs his "role" of scoring from five feet in better than any other player in the league. To say that hes a role player is like saying Ferrari is a car. It is, but its so much more if you are able to get past that.

[Edited by - izybx on 01-13-2007 7:18 PM]
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1/13/2007  7:25 PM
Posted by izybx:

Im sure you see me blasting Currys D all over this forum. I know what kind of player Curry is. But to say hes "a role player" is just using the word wrong. Malik Rose is a role player. Hubert Davis was a role player. [Edited by - izybx on 01-13-2007 7:18 PM]
I could see Hubert Davis spreading the floor and scoring 19 PPG in his prime if an offense was run through him and he played 34 min. He'd still be bad at all other aspects of the game and his weaknesses would cancel out his strengths (or probably outweigh the strengths in his case actually).
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By the way Eddie Johnson says he is an all star. Patrick Ewing on Tuesday night said Curry is definitely a top 5 center. He said Yao and Amare were 1-2. If former players speak so highly of Curry then he must be doing something right. Best of all despite many basher saying he would never be better than a 13-6 center he has progressed a lot and at age 24 he is no where near his peak. I would not be shocked if Curry ends up a 22-9 guy at some point.
I LOVED how Curry just exploded in the 4th, speaking as a fan of the Raptors, Curry looked well, scary I think is the word. Or Shaq-like Curry: 19.1ppg-7.3rpg-58%fg
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1/13/2007  7:32 PM
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by izybx:

Im sure you see me blasting Currys D all over this forum. I know what kind of player Curry is. But to say hes "a role player" is just using the word wrong. Malik Rose is a role player. Hubert Davis was a role player. [Edited by - izybx on 01-13-2007 7:18 PM]
I could see Hubert Davis spreading the floor and scoring 19 PPG in his prime if an offense was run through him and he played 34 min. He'd still be bad at all other aspects of the game and his weaknesses would cancel out his strengths (or probably outweigh the strengths in his case actually).

That is completely speculation. Lets look at a real life example. Was Allan Houston a role player?
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Houston was a much better passer than Curry. He could actually run down court with his man instead of getting beaten several times a game like Curry. He was a much better free throw shooter obviously and was not a turnover machine like Curry. Houston was also a far more versatile and better scorer than Curry. He could post up at times, create his own shot off the dribble, or hit jumper after jumper. I've said many times that Curry is a center version of something between Houston and Davis. (Houston would be overly generous; Davis overly harsh.)
All that said, I still would not be optimistic if the future of team I was rooting for was in Houston's hands (like it once was) and the team wanted to just build around him. Houston should be maybe your third best player and Curry should be a scoring 6th man until he gets in shape.

[Edited by - bonn1997 on 01-13-2007 8:27 PM]
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Posted by Bonn1997:

I get and watch about 80% of the games on NBA League Pass. Does your TV block out the defensive end of the court?

Hahaha. I'm dying. That troll just got his.



You know someone has a weak comeback when their argument is the same old lame, "do you even watch the games"? But man, nice one.

[Edited by - Solace on Jan 13 2007 10:07 PM]
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Houston was a much better passer than Curry. He could actually run down court with his man instead of getting beaten several times a game like Curry. He was a much better free throw shooter obviously and was not a turnover machine like Curry. Houston was also a far more versatile and better scorer than Curry. He could post up at times, create his own shot off the dribble, or hit jumper after jumper. I've said many times that Curry is a center version of something between Houston and Davis. (Houston would be overly generous; Davis overly harsh.)
All that said, I still would not be optimistic if the future of team I was rooting for was in Houston's hands (like it once was) and the team wanted to just build around him. Houston should be maybe your third best player and Curry should be a scoring 6th man until he gets in shape.

[Edited by - bonn1997 on 01-13-2007 8:27 PM]

Lol OMG.

Houston was a better passer, but he was average at best. Curry is a better rebounder, but he is average at best. Neither are known for those respective skills. And Houston did get beaten several times a game JUST like Curry does. Both are awful defensive player. Houston was a great free throw shooter, but because he rarely drove he didnt shoot that many foul shots. Curry is exactly the opposite. Houston was ONE DIMENSIONAL player, similar to how Curry is ONE DIMENSIONAL player. NEITHER is/was a role player. Dude get off it man. If you want to tell me that Currys' D sucks, or he cant rebound, ill agree with you all day. But give him some credit for at least deserving to start in this era of the non-center.
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1/15/2007  8:16 AM
Posted by Bonn1997:
2.) Because Eddie is our hope, we must build accordingly. We must target players that compliment his skills and make his game easier. In turn as he improves he will make those role players better as well. This includes a young PG that can take over when Marbs moves past his prime(so we aren't caught off guard for the inevitable). A rebounder at the PF position, which we may already have. An interior defender that can shut down opposing centers and allow Eddie to focus on O. And true dead eye shooters to spread the floor. It was rocket science when I brought it up during the pre-season. It was grounds for dismissal from the Knickfan kingdom. Now it's become obvious. If we continue with a "plan" and build we will improve. If we committ the mistakes of the past and focus on playoffs today, then we will level off like we have done many times in the past.
If you ran the team, is that really what you would do or would you tear down everything and start over? (I think most know I'd do the latter.)


personally Bonn I would have torn it down 7 years ago. And 6 years ago and 5 years ago and 4 years ago...........

But Isiah made his move. He gave away two possible lottery picks for Eddie Curry. You don't make a trade like that and then not build around the player that you gave up the picks for. Whether I agree with the trade or not is not an issue. The trade is done. OUr eggs are in Eddie's basket, so that's the way I expect Isiah to build. If he's following a plan of course.
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1/15/2007  8:23 AM
Posted by Bonn1997:

Houston was a much better passer than Curry. He could actually run down court with his man instead of getting beaten several times a game like Curry. He was a much better free throw shooter obviously and was not a turnover machine like Curry. Houston was also a far more versatile and better scorer than Curry. He could post up at times, create his own shot off the dribble, or hit jumper after jumper. I've said many times that Curry is a center version of something between Houston and Davis. (Houston would be overly generous; Davis overly harsh.)
All that said, I still would not be optimistic if the future of team I was rooting for was in Houston's hands (like it once was) and the team wanted to just build around him. Houston should be maybe your third best player and Curry should be a scoring 6th man until he gets in shape.

[Edited by - bonn1997 on 01-13-2007 8:27 PM]

It's hard to argue with that, unless the goal is to forcefeed Eddie.
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