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djsunyc
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1/9/2007  3:26 PM


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1/9/2007  3:48 PM
Posted by MS:

Or our ****ing brain dead coach doesn't have lee defending delfino, or we could just use a foul to give like isiah had them do against utah, ohh wait we didn't use our foul to give something that a master stategist like the prophet should have picked up on and learned from......

almost lost both games because of it

Its obvious you didnt watch that game. If you did you would have saw Isiah telling JJ that he was supposed to foul after the buzzer sounded.

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1/9/2007  4:00 PM
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I kill Lee because he doesn't got out to meet the defender...I won't kill him because Artest dropped 40 on him..I know he can't hold Artest...Stop twisting what I'm saying...I'm saying HE DOES NOT GO OUT TO MEET DEFENDERS ON TOO MANY OCCASIONS...That is different from not being able to hold them...He has to try...


And I've said repeatedly that how do you know Isiah hasn't told Lee to just crash the boards and not worry about anything else?

Because it's stupid!!!...How could rebounding the ball be more important that defending an open shooter...In the Detroit game, you think it was more important to get the rebound or to defend Delfino at the three point line at the final seconds of the game...


Again, you are taking one instance and using it as the Norm. That happened 3 times max and you are pretending like its something that happens 3 times a game. It doesn't.

I have to say you are not paying attention then...
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1/9/2007  4:08 PM
Holfresh JJ was supposed to foul when Delfino hit the shot. What was Lee doing in the game as a perimeter defender anyway? You argue about Lee and about how Frye numbers have suffered because he is doing what the coach asks. So IT is making Curry a better player and sacrificing Frye development? Why does IT Lee if he doenst care about defense? IT trusts him late in the games. IT is your boy please defend him
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1/9/2007  4:10 PM
Posted by holfresh:
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the only thing Channing did to earn his starting role over D Lee is being picked over him in the draft... he had a good start to his rookie year last year when D Lee was hardly given an opportunity to play... this year there's really nothing he's done to earn his starting spot.

Well I'm not sure about that...Frye said that Isiah ask him to play on the perimeter to stretch the defense to free Curry on the inside...Lee really can't do that...I would love to see Frye play more under the basket and develop his post game...Coming into this year Frye earned his starting spot...If his numbers suffer because his coach ask him to play like a small forward and stay away from the basket, how do you punish him by benching him??


Curry had his best stretch of play all year when Frye was out injured so Frye stretching the defense to benefit Eddy, is a pointless argument.

It's not pointless when it's Isiah game plan and he implements it every game...It is coincidental that Eddy's game came along when Frye got hurt....Frye is back andEddy is still a monster on the inside..The difference now is that Eddy is being double and triple team...How is Dlee in the starting lineup going to help that...Do you really believe that Frye can't grab 7-8 boards a game if he is playing under the basket??



no its not. Having Lee next to Curry to do all the hustle, help defense and clean the glass jump started his game, and thats when we played our best BB. To deny it is foolish. Your always jabbing about people "watching" the games. What the hell were you watching then?

Frye doesnt stretch the defense. Teams dont care about him. Teams want to keep the guards out of the paint and Curry from dunking on them. Let Channing shoot jumpers all day. If that beats us than so be it.

Isiah's Eddy-ball has reduced Frye to a jumpshooting lampost stationed 18 feet from the basket. Occasionally he lights up, but thats all you get from him
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1/9/2007  4:13 PM
if Frye is so good and skilled why does Lee get more rebounds, points, steals, assists, shoot a higher FT% and shoot like 15% points higher?

Maybe he's drinking Sprite?

Isiah just tells him what? Dont do all the fancy stuff I ask Channing to do because your not good enough...

Something like that right?

You know anything about BB?
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1/9/2007  4:16 PM
Lee man never doubles the post. It comes from a guard that cant hit an outside shot Jamal and Steph. Lee gets face guarded to keep him off the offensive boards and they still cant stop them. I guarantee every coach has more of a game plan to keep Lee off the boards than stopping frye. So there is no help defense off of Lee. He also is the only big man that can make a hi/lo pass and yess look at his assists lately compared to Frye. He gets people some easy buckets or at least open looks each game
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1/9/2007  4:18 PM
right now, on this team...

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[Edited by - djsunyc on 01-09-2007 4:19 PM]
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1/9/2007  4:19 PM
Ever though IT is playing Lee over Frye because Lee plays better defense, and the offense is going through Curry and Lee can pass and dribble more than two dribbles. He also has a better feel for the game than Frye. Or is IT have no idea what he is doing?
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1/9/2007  4:20 PM
Posted by King1:

Lee man never doubles the post. It comes from a guard that cant hit an outside shot Jamal and Steph. Lee gets face guarded to keep him off the offensive boards and they still cant stop them. I guarantee every coach has more of a game plan to keep Lee off the boards than stopping frye. So there is no help defense off of Lee. He also is the only big man that can make a hi/lo pass and yess look at his assists lately compared to Frye. He gets people some easy buckets or at least open looks each game
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1/9/2007  4:30 PM
Posted by fishmike:
Posted by holfresh:
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by holfresh:
Posted by TMS:

the only thing Channing did to earn his starting role over D Lee is being picked over him in the draft... he had a good start to his rookie year last year when D Lee was hardly given an opportunity to play... this year there's really nothing he's done to earn his starting spot.

Well I'm not sure about that...Frye said that Isiah ask him to play on the perimeter to stretch the defense to free Curry on the inside...Lee really can't do that...I would love to see Frye play more under the basket and develop his post game...Coming into this year Frye earned his starting spot...If his numbers suffer because his coach ask him to play like a small forward and stay away from the basket, how do you punish him by benching him??


Curry had his best stretch of play all year when Frye was out injured so Frye stretching the defense to benefit Eddy, is a pointless argument.

It's not pointless when it's Isiah game plan and he implements it every game...It is coincidental that Eddy's game came along when Frye got hurt....Frye is back andEddy is still a monster on the inside..The difference now is that Eddy is being double and triple team...How is Dlee in the starting lineup going to help that...Do you really believe that Frye can't grab 7-8 boards a game if he is playing under the basket??



no its not. Having Lee next to Curry to do all the hustle, help defense and clean the glass jump started his game, and thats when we played our best BB. To deny it is foolish. Your always jabbing about people "watching" the games. What the hell were you watching then?

Frye doesnt stretch the defense. Teams dont care about him. Teams want to keep the guards out of the paint and Curry from dunking on them. Let Channing shoot jumpers all day. If that beats us than so be it.

Isiah's Eddy-ball has reduced Frye to a jumpshooting lampost stationed 18 feet from the basket. Occasionally he lights up, but thats all you get from him

I dont disagree that Lee is a great (not perfect because he doesn't block shots)compliment to Curry. but to be fair, Lee's presence didn't jump start Currys progress, Curry was already on 11-straight games of 20-plus or more up until the suspensions put Lee in the starting lineup.

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1/9/2007  4:32 PM
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I dont disagree that Lee is a great (not perfect because he doesn't block shots)compliment to Curry. but to be fair, Lee's presence didn't jump start Currys progress, Curry was already on 11-straight games of 20-plus or more up until the suspensions put Lee in the starting lineup.

This is my point. I'm not saying the Lee is the one who helped Curry but for Isiah to claim that he's playing Frye so he can space the floor for Eddy is ridiculous. Curry played his best ball when there was no floor spacing and Lee was playing next to him "taking up space."

Curry and the guards pounding him the ball are responsible for his play this year.
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1/9/2007  4:46 PM
Posted by bigbeast:


I dont disagree that Lee is a great (not perfect because he doesn't block shots)compliment to Curry. but to be fair, Lee's presence didn't jump start Currys progress, Curry was already on 11-straight games of 20-plus or more up until the suspensions put Lee in the starting lineup.
nobody deserves the credit for Curry's improved play more than Curry. All I'm saying is that Lee being the perfect compliment (certainly the best on our roster) has helped free up Curry to do the one thing he does great.

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1/9/2007  6:17 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by bigbeast:


I dont disagree that Lee is a great (not perfect because he doesn't block shots)compliment to Curry. but to be fair, Lee's presence didn't jump start Currys progress, Curry was already on 11-straight games of 20-plus or more up until the suspensions put Lee in the starting lineup.

This is my point. I'm not saying the Lee is the one who helped Curry but for Isiah to claim that he's playing Frye so he can space the floor for Eddy is ridiculous. Curry played his best ball when there was no floor spacing and Lee was playing next to him "taking up space."

Curry and the guards pounding him the ball are responsible for his play this year.

I Kind of wish that Isiah would put some dumb ass line up with no shooters on floor just so you can see what would happen. When Curry was "playing his best ball with no shooters on the floor" he wasnt getting doubled. Some of you guys just dont get basic concepts.
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1/9/2007  6:18 PM
In any case, now that Q is back, it doesnt matter. In a few games, Lee will be starting and Q will be playing SF, which is what we all want anyway.
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1/9/2007  6:31 PM
Posted by izybx:

In any case, now that Q is back, it doesnt matter. In a few games, Lee will be starting and Q will be playing SF, which is what we all want anyway.

For some reason, I can see JJ2 being plugged in at PF while Q slides back in at the 2. I hate the idea of JJ2 at pf because it defeats the purpose of signing JJ2 who despite is anemic offesive abilities, does provide good length on the wing defensively at 6'11.
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1/9/2007  8:49 PM
Posted by Elite:

DLEE PLAYS PF YOU PUT HIM ON THE BLOCK HE DOESENT HAVE TO SHOOT ANYTHING FURTHER THAN A 15 FOOT SHOT!!!!!!!!!!

What freekin game do you guys follow????

As long as Qrich starts over Jeffries Frye's shot over DLEE'S is a NON ISSUE

LEE IS THE BETTER PLAYER RIGHT NOW BY FAR

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1/9/2007  9:29 PM
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1/9/2007  9:31 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by bigbeast:


I dont disagree that Lee is a great (not perfect because he doesn't block shots)compliment to Curry. but to be fair, Lee's presence didn't jump start Currys progress, Curry was already on 11-straight games of 20-plus or more up until the suspensions put Lee in the starting lineup.

This is my point. I'm not saying the Lee is the one who helped Curry but for Isiah to claim that he's playing Frye so he can space the floor for Eddy is ridiculous. Curry played his best ball when there was no floor spacing and Lee was playing next to him "taking up space."

Curry and the guards pounding him the ball are responsible for his play this year.

He wasn't getting double teamed then either...Bro we keep going in circles...DJ picture caption sums up this argument...
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1/9/2007  10:54 PM
Posted by holfresh:
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by bigbeast:


I dont disagree that Lee is a great (not perfect because he doesn't block shots)compliment to Curry. but to be fair, Lee's presence didn't jump start Currys progress, Curry was already on 11-straight games of 20-plus or more up until the suspensions put Lee in the starting lineup.

This is my point. I'm not saying the Lee is the one who helped Curry but for Isiah to claim that he's playing Frye so he can space the floor for Eddy is ridiculous. Curry played his best ball when there was no floor spacing and Lee was playing next to him "taking up space."

Curry and the guards pounding him the ball are responsible for his play this year.

He wasn't getting double teamed then either...Bro we keep going in circles...DJ picture caption sums up this argument...

The funny part is that it was directed at you. lol.
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