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SugarRayRichardson
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1/20/2007  12:16 PM
Because thats exactly what I see every game regardless of how Curry plays there is a group that wants to lynch him. Period. It doesnt matter if he has 35 points or 10 points. It doesnt matter if he has 11 rebounds or 4 rebounds. It doesnt matter if we win or lose. The same group of posters look for any possible reason to lynch the guy
I LOVED how Curry just exploded in the 4th, speaking as a fan of the Raptors, Curry looked well, scary I think is the word. Or Shaq-like Curry: 19.1ppg-7.3rpg-58%fg
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1/20/2007  12:21 PM
Posted by SugarRayRichardson:

Because thats exactly what I see every game regardless of how Curry plays there is a group that wants to lynch him. Period. It doesnt matter if he has 35 points or 10 points. It doesnt matter if he has 11 rebounds or 4 rebounds. It doesnt matter if we win or lose. The same group of posters look for any possible reason to lynch the guy

a number of us don't like his game, sure, but you know "lynch" and "hood" have a whole different connotation. unless that's the specific charge you want to make against people, i just don't think that approach is necessary to debate eddy's game.
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1/20/2007  12:23 PM
Curry sucks. Maybe his rebounding is being underappreciated by fish but completely overrated by sugarray. The fact in the matter is that Curry does not box out and he does not fight for position. In fact, I'll go as far to say that when he plays down low, Channing Frye rebounds better. Heck, it was him that kept the Knicks close in the first half.

Yet I still can't believe how Curry is being overrated on this board when the only thing he does is score in the LOW post. Doesn't D up, doesn't block shots, isn't a very good rebounder (Maybe improving a little, but not good), doesn't pass well, sucks at getting into good position to catch passes, and doesn't even score consistently and when he's not scoring, he's useless.

Anyone who says Curry is untouchable, or would ONLY trade them for an elite player is wearing a blindfold. Curry is not that good.
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1/20/2007  12:23 PM
Posted by SugarRayRichardson:

Because thats exactly what I see every game regardless of how Curry plays there is a group that wants to lynch him. Period. It doesnt matter if he has 35 points or 10 points. It doesnt matter if he has 11 rebounds or 4 rebounds. It doesnt matter if we win or lose. The same group of posters look for any possible reason to lynch the guy

You're completely out of line.
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1/20/2007  12:26 PM
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Eddy gets crap because there is nobody more frustrating to watch. He simply doest try and takes halves off comletely when things arent going his way.

Its amazing how biased you are towards curry. The announcers on tv were saying how great collins was playing defense on curry. Also how in the past curry would stop trying if things weren't going his way but last nite he was still busting his azz trying and not giving up. You see him giving up others see great defense on him and him still fighting through it.

That's the problem though man. Mikki and Collins were hurting Curry when they were on defense, (And offense) but Curry should be dominating guys like that. What's the reason he can't? He's been in the league for a long time. He knows how to score. So what's the reason for letting those guys tool him? It's b/c Eddy is not that good.
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1/20/2007  12:27 PM
http://videosearch2.nba.com/search/?sp_a=sp10038c44&sp_t=video&sp_q=nbacom/&sp_n=10&sp_s=postdate&sp_k=wmvasf
You can watch it again, he jumped first, but his hands went lateral, and Ciffys hands went Vertical. THat was a bad play by eddy because he jumped away from the ball instead of going after it, I think because he didn't knowwhere ciffy was and he didn't read the ball well. Not because he didn't jumpor where ya'll talking about now. Man he should have gotten that board.


This will be worth it if it makes CUrry a better rebounder.
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1/20/2007  12:29 PM
Posted by Anji:

http://videosearch2.nba.com/search/?sp_a=sp10038c44&sp_t=video&sp_q=nbacom/&sp_n=10&sp_s=postdate&sp_k=wmvasf
You can watch it again, he jumped first, but his hands went lateral, and Ciffys hands went Vertical. THat was a bad play by eddy because he jumped away from the ball instead of going after it, I think because he didn't knowwhere ciffy was and he didn't read the ball well. Not because he didn't jumpor where ya'll talking about now. Man he should have gotten that board.


This will be worth it if it makes CUrry a better rebounder.

What makes you think this time will be different from the other thousand times that Eddy has misplayed a board?
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1/20/2007  12:30 PM
Because before he didn't miss play rebounds, he didn't "jump"to quote the thread.
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1/20/2007  12:31 PM
Eddy Curry is the reason the Knicks are a losing team!
The Knicks would be a winning team if we cut Eddy Curry today!
Eddy Curry Sucks!
Eddy Curry is only 24 but he has shown he can never improve at anything so we should cut him now!

Out of around 470 NBA players Curry barely shows up as a blip on the NBA radar screen:

* Ranks #28 in the NBA in Points Per Game(19.0)
* Ranks #31 in the NBA in Rebounds Per Game(7.4)
* Ranks #5 in the NBA in Field-Goal Percentage(0.577)
* Ranks #18 in the NBA in Field Goals Made(290.0)
* Ranks #18 in the NBA in Free Throws(197.0)
* Ranks #5 in the NBA in Free Throw Attempts(327.0)
* Ranks #19 in the NBA in Offensive Rebounds(103.0)
* Ranks #32 in the NBA in Defensive Rebounds(201.0)
* Ranks #31 in the NBA in Total Rebounds(304.0)
* Ranks #19 in the NBA in Points(777.0)
* Ranks #22 in the NBA in Double-doubles(12.0)
* Ranks #22 in the NBA in Field Goals Per 48 Minutes(9.91)
* Ranks #19 in the NBA in Free Throws Per 48 Minutes(6.73)
* Ranks #5 in the NBA in Free Throw Attempts Per 48 Minutes(11.17)
* Ranks #28 in the NBA in Points Per 48 Minutes(26.5)
* Ranks #38 in the NBA in Total Efficiency Points(674.0)

I LOVED how Curry just exploded in the 4th, speaking as a fan of the Raptors, Curry looked well, scary I think is the word. Or Shaq-like Curry: 19.1ppg-7.3rpg-58%fg
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1/20/2007  12:34 PM
Posted by Allanfan20:
Posted by BigRedDog:
Posted by fishmike:

Eddy gets crap because there is nobody more frustrating to watch. He simply doest try and takes halves off comletely when things arent going his way.

Its amazing how biased you are towards curry. The announcers on tv were saying how great collins was playing defense on curry. Also how in the past curry would stop trying if things weren't going his way but last nite he was still busting his azz trying and not giving up. You see him giving up others see great defense on him and him still fighting through it.

That's the problem though man. Mikki and Collins were hurting Curry when they were on defense, (And offense) but Curry should be dominating guys like that. What's the reason he can't? He's been in the league for a long time. He knows how to score. So what's the reason for letting those guys tool him? It's b/c Eddy is not that good.

If you watched the game, you would have noticed Collins was playing him in a 3/4 position (on his side) while another Net defender played behind him making it hard to feed him the ball. It was al;most like a box and 1 in the post. BTW, Collins is a pretty good defender,and the Nets had an obvious gameplan that focused on Curry. How about giving the other team some credit.

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1/20/2007  12:34 PM
Posted by Allanfan20:
Posted by BigRedDog:
Posted by fishmike:

Eddy gets crap because there is nobody more frustrating to watch. He simply doest try and takes halves off comletely when things arent going his way.

Its amazing how biased you are towards curry. The announcers on tv were saying how great collins was playing defense on curry. Also how in the past curry would stop trying if things weren't going his way but last nite he was still busting his azz trying and not giving up. You see him giving up others see great defense on him and him still fighting through it.

That's the problem though man. Mikki and Collins were hurting Curry when they were on defense, (And offense) but Curry should be dominating guys like that. What's the reason he can't? He's been in the league for a long time. He knows how to score. So what's the reason for letting those guys tool him? It's b/c Eddy is not that good.

Miki Moore and Collins combined for a whopping 10 points. Ofcourse Curry didnt guard them both at the same time. Frye guarded Moore most of the night. Also at least 4 of those points by Moore came when Curry was on the bench. Curry and Frye Combined for around 30 points and 18 rebounds. Moore and Collins combined for about 10 points and 6 rebounds.
I LOVED how Curry just exploded in the 4th, speaking as a fan of the Raptors, Curry looked well, scary I think is the word. Or Shaq-like Curry: 19.1ppg-7.3rpg-58%fg
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1/20/2007  12:37 PM
Collins also got away with blatant holds on Currys arms right before the ref called a ridiculous offensive foul. Collins also several times impeded Curry from going thru the lane without the ball. that is a foul but the refs were just bad. They let guys like Collins and Bowen get away with a lot more than other guys. Eddy should get mean and just elbow Collins hard in teh face next game right off the bat. In fact he should tell him in the pre game that every time he holds his arm he is going to get pounded so he doesnt have to worry about flopping
I LOVED how Curry just exploded in the 4th, speaking as a fan of the Raptors, Curry looked well, scary I think is the word. Or Shaq-like Curry: 19.1ppg-7.3rpg-58%fg
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1/20/2007  12:49 PM
I'm sorry but Eddy Curry wasn't working hard on either side of the ball. I saw it, the people sitting next to me saw it and the people sitting behind me saw it. I tend to agree with Fish, I don't think he's in good enough shape to play hard on both sides of the ball and you CAN TELL when you are at the games watching this guy. We were all talking about it. It was the main topic of conversation.

I'm baffled at how people are so damn touchy about Eddy Curry. It's OK to critique players. It really is ok.
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1/20/2007  1:31 PM
mikki moore and collins did terrible jobs rebounding last night though. eddy curry is a good scorer though. but the problem is this team is too stupid. when other teams gear there defense to stop curry the knicks guards just get this confused look on their face like "what do I do now?" if our offense was better curry could make his teammates alot better by drawing so much attention, but as it is now, when he draws attention like that it just slows the offense down because the other players dont know how to react when curry cant score. its pretty stupid if you ask me
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1/20/2007  4:01 PM
Don't get to mad at Curry for the last play.

Try and watch the replay of the last tip in closly. Eddie Curry did box out. But he was boxing out Richard Jefferson. Curry's right arm was back feeling out Jefferson, basicically making sure he didn't advance in front of him. While his left are went up to go for the rebound. Im sure Curry didn't jump because he was trying to hold Jefferson back with one arm while grabbing the rebound with the other. Cliff Robinson at the last second snuck over Curry's left shoulder and tipped the ball in.

I don't think Curry even knew Robinson was over there. But requardless Curry had 2 people to worry about. Jefferson on his rigth shoulder & Uncle Cliffy on his left. He chose Jefferson and slid more to his right while the ball bounce to the left where Robinson was. If the ball would have bounced more to the right while Curry slid then Curry would have gotten the rebound easily over Jefferson or Robinson would have been called for a foul. Now if Curry would have slid to the left doing the same thing to Cliffy instead of Jefferson, and the ball bounced more to the right then Jefferson might have been the one with the tip in.
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1/20/2007  4:01 PM
Posted by Anji:

http://videosearch2.nba.com/search/?sp_a=sp10038c44&sp_t=video&sp_q=nbacom/&sp_n=10&sp_s=postdate&sp_k=wmvasf
You can watch it again, he jumped first, but his hands went lateral, and Ciffys hands went Vertical. THat was a bad play by eddy because he jumped away from the ball instead of going after it, I think because he didn't knowwhere ciffy was and he didn't read the ball well. Not because he didn't jumpor where ya'll talking about now. Man he should have gotten that board.


This will be worth it if it makes CUrry a better rebounder.


Eddy made a mistake and did not go after the rebound hard enough. The main problem is that he did not have an awareness of the man behind him. That is where I think he really loses alot of rebounds. It is not that he is not trying to grab the rebound. It is that he is trying to grab it without an awareness of who else is trying to grab the board. He will never be an elite rebounder, but I think he has improved and can continue to improve. There have been some games where I have seen him really fight for and get some tough rebounds, so I know he has the ability.
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1/20/2007  4:06 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:

I'm sorry but Eddy Curry wasn't working hard on either side of the ball. I saw it, the people sitting next to me saw it and the people sitting behind me saw it. I tend to agree with Fish, I don't think he's in good enough shape to play hard on both sides of the ball and you CAN TELL when you are at the games watching this guy. We were all talking about it. It was the main topic of conversation.

I'm baffled at how people are so damn touchy about Eddy Curry. It's OK to critique players. It really is ok.

I agree that Curry is horrible on the defensive side of the ball. But the question for me is. Is it because he is out of shape?? Or is it the fact that he is trying to avoid fouls at all cost?? I think its the ladder. Becuase Curry last season & seasons past use to hit the players and then get quick fouls and get sent to the bench.

For me I feel Curry does not know how to challenge shots without fouling. And if the coaches make that the focal point and have him working on that with the same effort as they have done with his low post game. Then I think he could become decent at it.
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1/20/2007  4:13 PM
Posted by newyorknewyork:
Posted by nyk4ever:

I'm sorry but Eddy Curry wasn't working hard on either side of the ball. I saw it, the people sitting next to me saw it and the people sitting behind me saw it. I tend to agree with Fish, I don't think he's in good enough shape to play hard on both sides of the ball and you CAN TELL when you are at the games watching this guy. We were all talking about it. It was the main topic of conversation.

I'm baffled at how people are so damn touchy about Eddy Curry. It's OK to critique players. It really is ok.

I agree that Curry is horrible on the defensive side of the ball. But the question for me is. Is it because he is out of shape?? Or is it the fact that he is trying to avoid fouls at all cost?? I think its the ladder. Becuase Curry last season & seasons past use to hit the players and then get quick fouls and get sent to the bench.

For me I feel Curry does not know how to challenge shots without fouling. And if the coaches make that the focal point and have him working on that with the same effort as they have done with his low post game. Then I think he could become decent at it.

Good points.
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1/20/2007  4:16 PM
Posted by Marv:

i used to say the same thing aboiut kvh's boards. he'd have good numbers but if you watched him youi'd see they were all right place/right time ones.

still, it's interesting about eddy's numbers. i'd certainly rather have 11 balls come to him than 3! it kills me when he plays a full game and can nonly come up with that many! so what accounts for the difference - did he stay closer to the action last night than in those games? were the other team's inside players that bad? how can only 3 "fall" to him one game and 11 another?

Probability theory?

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1/20/2007  4:35 PM
First of all it wasn't over the back on Robinson and the picture clearly shows that it wasn't. You can see space between Robinson's and Curry's body. It also proves Curry did a very poor job boxing out because his rear end should be in the guts of Robinson's body. Let's not forget the fact how miserable his step out defense was on Mikki Moore. This guys was in the NBDL about a yr ago yet he looked like a player yesterday.
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