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Marbury : "If we can go 2-3, it's not bad,"
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Nebs
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1/5/2007  7:09 PM
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They have another WC trip this month. Sacramento, LAC, Utah, Denver, GS.

[Edited by - Nebs on 01-05-2007 7:10 PM]
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1/5/2007  7:11 PM
HOw does any team not in the top 5 of there conference do on the road???? 500 is a goal, not a given in other teams arenas!!!!!!
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1/5/2007  7:33 PM
Guys are acting like this Sonic win is in the bag. This is no walk in the park. The Sonics are bad but they have some good players. KNicks can easily lose.

Okay, rank your Wilkins!: Damien, Dominique, Gerald.

oohah

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1/5/2007  8:35 PM
i would like to reiterate:

it's not even a possible 2-3 record that gets me. it's that the three losses were HORRIBLE. we played like we didn't give a ****. then to come back and say it's not that bad because we follow it up with a good game or two? not buying it.

three losses where we play hard and get some valuable experience- that's not bad. losses like those are a slap in the face to fans. i would be pissed if anyone on the team or organization tried to tell me it's not that bad.
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1/5/2007  8:51 PM
I would be happy if the Knicks go .400 on the road for the rest of the season.

oohah

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1/6/2007  1:11 AM
Posted by babyKnicks:

How did the nets do on their west coast swing?

Why do you constantly bring up the Nets, RV? Honestly, no one really cares.
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1/6/2007  2:03 AM
they are the favorites to win our division, that's what I'm pacing the knicks by...toronto is a falsehood.

And I'm not RV, and you seem to get really jumpy after wins...why is that?

if you are a net fan, I apologize for using them as a comparison, if you are not a net fan, why do you care?
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1/6/2007  2:08 AM
Posted by babyKnicks:

they are the favorites to win our division, that's what I'm pacing the knicks by...toronto is a falsehood.

And I'm not RV, and you seem to get really jumpy after wins...why is that?

if you are a net fan, I apologize for using them as a comparison, if you are not a net fan, why do you care?

Nice try RV. lol.
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1/6/2007  2:19 AM
2-3 on a West coast swing is good.

Unless you are a team competing for the championship, 2-3 is a good outcome.
A glimmer of hope maybe?!?
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1/6/2007  4:49 AM
Posted by oohah:

I would be happy if the Knicks go .400 on the road for the rest of the season.

oohah

That's settling for mediocrity. But you may be right... even a lame .400 may be a stretch.
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1/6/2007  11:07 AM
Lame???? I can name 5 playoff teams in the east that wouldn't have .400 road records.
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1/6/2007  11:13 AM
^How many in the West?

http://www.nba.com/standings/team_record_comparison/conferenceNew_Std_Cnf.html
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1/6/2007  11:19 AM
Posted by Solace:
Posted by oohah:

I would be happy if the Knicks go .400 on the road for the rest of the season.

oohah

That's settling for mediocrity. But you may be right... even a lame .400 may be a stretch.

No, That is living in the real world.

oohah



[Edited by - oohah on 06-01-2007 11:19 AM]
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1/6/2007  11:19 AM
thank you bippity... oh and some more evidence to the fact that it all starts with Isiah
Before the game, Thomas said a victory would make the trip "good," so by his definition it was a success.
"If you win three, it's a great trip," Thomas said. "If you win two, it's a good trip. If you win one, at least you didn't go 0 for 5, but it ain't nothing to write home to mother about. You want to get close to .500 on the road."

you want to get close to 500 on the road????? man... sure if your an elite team tht dominates at home!..... You want to win, all the time... i just dont like the low bar he sets to save his job
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1/6/2007  11:49 AM
Posted by joec32033:

^How many in the West?

http://www.nba.com/standings/team_record_comparison/conferenceNew_Std_Cnf.html

By seasons end............... I'm not sure. And I didn't even look at the standings, I'm saying by seasons end I can name 5 teams that will not be 400. in the east. THe west have alot of elite players so theirs is harder to predict because nobody should in the west be under 500 expect one. Hell the bottom teams in the playoffs in the west will have, kobe, AI, Melo, Yao, Tmac and Garnett on them.

BUt I know for a fact the Bulls, Wizards, who every wins our divison, Cavs, Magic won't.
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1/6/2007  12:17 PM
Posted by Elite:

thank you bippity... oh and some more evidence to the fact that it all starts with Isiah
Before the game, Thomas said a victory would make the trip "good," so by his definition it was a success.
"If you win three, it's a great trip," Thomas said. "If you win two, it's a good trip. If you win one, at least you didn't go 0 for 5, but it ain't nothing to write home to mother about. You want to get close to .500 on the road."

you want to get close to 500 on the road????? man... sure if your an elite team tht dominates at home!..... You want to win, all the time... i just dont like the low bar he sets to save his job

Does this mean you want him to say the team will win 45-50 games and play over .500 on the road? Having high expectations is good but if you hold them too high then one is being unrealistic and can cause just as many problems as the teacher/coach who holds the lowest expectations. This is the fine line all teachers (as a former one I have some experience in this) walk.

Anyway, why would you honestly expect anyone to set themselves up for failure? It's common sense that he would hold the expectations to a level that will keep him on and allow the team to show some improvement. I don't think that I see enough evidence this season to suggest that Isiah is intentionally holding the expecations low, therefore lowering the play of the team. Have not some guys started to show signs of improvement this year? Some go through growing pains, especially younger players, and some have not played well. I think this is just the way it is, and he's been calling it that way so people don't hold unrealistic expectations of the team, and then...yes, that means maybe fire him. But that doesn't necessarily mean that this approach is undermining the development of the team.

It's a job, and anyone who has a good one will do what it takes to keep it.

Forum Po Po and #33 for a reason...
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1/6/2007  12:32 PM
Posted by Anji:
Posted by joec32033:

^How many in the West?

http://www.nba.com/standings/team_record_comparison/conferenceNew_Std_Cnf.html

By seasons end............... I'm not sure. And I didn't even look at the standings, I'm saying by seasons end I can name 5 teams that will not be 400. in the east. THe west have alot of elite players so theirs is harder to predict because nobody should in the west be under 500 expect one. Hell the bottom teams in the playoffs in the west will have, kobe, AI, Melo, Yao, Tmac and Garnett on them.

BUt I know for a fact the Bulls, Wizards, who every wins our divison, Cavs, Magic won't.

The only point I am trying to get across is don't confuse being one of the best crappy teams with being a good team. Just because the rest of the east sucks doesn't mean we're good.

The Knicks are 9-12 in a crappy conference(it is in the link I provided) and 1-4 in an even worse division.
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1/6/2007  12:41 PM
Posted by oohah:
Posted by Solace:
Posted by oohah:

I would be happy if the Knicks go .400 on the road for the rest of the season.

oohah

That's settling for mediocrity. But you may be right... even a lame .400 may be a stretch.

No, That is living in the real world.

oohah



[Edited by - oohah on 06-01-2007 11:19 AM]

so do you accept how poorly we played in the first three games?
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1/6/2007  12:51 PM
so do you accept how poorly we played in the first three games?

I never really understand what people mean by accept wins/losses, or effort. I guess I have to accept it, like when a candidate I don't like is elected.

What I am trying to do is take a larger, and more realistic view to a marathon-like season, rather than get excited and upset about every poor stretch etc.

Just look at the numbers: 2 wins, 3 losses equals .400 which is poor and "unacceptable". 3/2 = .600 which is pretty good and I would imagine acceptable. And it is only difference of one game!

If the Knicks can work their way up to 3/2 at home finish the season winning an average of .600 at home and finish going .400 on the road, they would end up with about 41-42 wins, and that would be "acceptable" to me. I'm not going to get worked up about a couple of games where the Knicks are flat or out of sorts. That happens to every team good and bad. And I won't get too excited when they come out looking like world-beaters, unless they start doing it consistently!

oohah



[Edited by - oohah on 06-01-2007 12:55 PM]
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1/6/2007  12:54 PM
Posted by Elite:

thank you bippity... oh and some more evidence to the fact that it all starts with Isiah
Before the game, Thomas said a victory would make the trip "good," so by his definition it was a success.
"If you win three, it's a great trip," Thomas said. "If you win two, it's a good trip. If you win one, at least you didn't go 0 for 5, but it ain't nothing to write home to mother about. You want to get close to .500 on the road."

you want to get close to 500 on the road????? man... sure if your an elite team tht dominates at home!..... You want to win, all the time... i just dont like the low bar he sets to save his job

His low standards are insulting. If you never knew he was a player, you'd be shocked to learn he won two championships and was one of the toughest people in the league. His toughness has diminished to nothing.
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Marbury : "If we can go 2-3, it's not bad,"

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