Posted by SlimPack:

Posted by Michael6835:

"I think they're both the same offensive threat, which is not much,"


Is David Lee and OFFENSIVE THREAT ?
or is he a hustle guy ? We know his going to give us a double double every night. somewhere around 10-12 pts and double digit rebounds.

So where in his comments is he taking a stab at lee. If I was Lee, I would more take it as an insult if he said I wasnt a force on defense or I didn't hustle. But he is just saying what the scouting report by every other NBA team is saying. DLEE is not an OFFENSIVE threat. So stop making this out to be a IT is disrespecting his manhood. It's getting redundant.

david lee is a significantly better offensive player than jeffries though. if Isiah cant see that than.... I dont know what to say.. lee can hit jumpers and can create his own shot in the post. jeffries can do neither.


[Edited by - Slimpack on 01-02-2007 7:33 PM]

Posted by NYKresurrection:

I don't mean to cause trouble but i have never seen so much negativity about a team that we all claim to love. I'm not saying that we should wear rose colored glasses, but come on, the bash Isiah stuff is so old now. That was 2006, its now 2007, how about an attitude like; I LOVE THE KNICKS NOW MATTER WHAT !! Tyrus Thomas, Bynum and every unknown college player that everyone here claims is the greatest thing since slice bread are always GREAT players as long as they are on other teams or still in college, but if Isiah drafts them or trades for them, they are the WORST thing on the planet !! The whinning around here is like old underwear, ITS TIME TO CHANGE !!!!

Posted by Bippity10:

You ever notice that when someone like Islesfan or NYKvEva says the Knicks have stretches were they don't compete at all, they called non fans. But when David Lee says the exact same thing he is a leader.

We won 23 games last year. And are on pace to be in the 30's(hopefully) this year. The criticisms of your team are true. People talk about them because they want to fix them. That's a real fan. Not someone that pretends that the faults aren't there and thinks everything is great.

Posted by Ray15:

Posted by nyk4ever:

Isiah has violated team policy by talking disparagingly about his players in the media, not only that, by doing so he is ruining these players trade value by talking about their weaknesses.

The guy is just a joke, if he doesn't like the players on the roster, then he should look at himself in the mirror and say to himself "I did a sh!t job of putting this team together" because in reality he has. I'm glad that our coach/gm/president JUST got that the memo that Crawford and Marbury are streaky players and that they can't be relied on as players that knockdown a jumper from outside.

And honestly, what the hell does Isiah have against David Lee? The guy is OBVIOUSLY bashing him in the media and he's been one of the few players who have put up, instead of shutting up, to try and save this idiots job! How has Isiah repayed Lee? He plays him whacked out minutes, which most of the time have no rhyme or reason to them. Isiah's been here 4 seasons now, the team absolutely SUCKS, we have no lottery pick and we're still in salary cap hell.

FIRE ISIAH NOW

Good post. Isiah is such a joke. I can see the press conference now when he trades Lee. "David brought us energy off the bench but he was redundant with Jefferies."

I truly believe that in any other situation David Lee is an all star next season. He's going to develop that baseline jumper and he's going to give you 16 and 12 for the next 8 seasons.

Our only hope is that Dolan put the gag order on Isiah this year and fires him the day after the draft.

Posted by Erniecat:

[quote][b]
David Lee is an All-Star caliber power forward. Period. He gets 16 and 15 last night -- and is anyone even mildly surprised???

Repeat after me: David Lee will average 16 and 12, and then maybe eventually 18 and 12, given the opportunity. And isn't it sad that -- for whatever reason -- it's appearing more and more likely that the opportunity will come elsewhere.

Because even if the Knicks FINALLY realize what they have in Lee, the man is not an idiot, and when it comes time for him to become a free agent, he just might tell the Knicks to take a hike. He goes out there and busts his ass every night and just shuts up and gives everything and produces big time night after night after night, yet still gets royally screwed by the coach.

I've said it before: It would not be a crime for Lee to have to come off the bench if he were part of a winning team. But how can he possibly not resent management for toying with his playing time given the production he has given a team with such a dismal record?

In the three-plus decades I have followed this team, I have never seen such an egregious mistake as the one that's being made with this guy.

So don't be surprised if Lee is already planning a pretty quick departure from NY.

That is an incredibly well-written essay, Erniecat.

Posted by GhandiOrr:

Posted by Erniecat:

[quote][b]
David Lee is an All-Star caliber power forward. Period. He gets 16 and 15 last night -- and is anyone even mildly surprised???

Repeat after me: David Lee will average 16 and 12, and then maybe eventually 18 and 12, given the opportunity. And isn't it sad that -- for whatever reason -- it's appearing more and more likely that the opportunity will come elsewhere.

Because even if the Knicks FINALLY realize what they have in Lee, the man is not an idiot, and when it comes time for him to become a free agent, he just might tell the Knicks to take a hike. He goes out there and busts his ass every night and just shuts up and gives everything and produces big time night after night after night, yet still gets royally screwed by the coach.

I've said it before: It would not be a crime for Lee to have to come off the bench if he were part of a winning team. But how can he possibly not resent management for toying with his playing time given the production he has given a team with such a dismal record?

In the three-plus decades I have followed this team, I have never seen such an egregious mistake as the one that's being made with this guy.

So don't be surprised if Lee is already planning a pretty quick departure from NY.

That is an incredibly well-written essay, Erniecat.

Why, thank you, GhandiOrr. I guess David Lee just brings out the writer in me.