Posted by Anji:

It's like if a guy comes in here and gets 15 steals or 20 assist, yeah players having ungoly totals in those areas of the games are goingto be on the winning. But there is a difference between saying it helps and that's why they won.

1/10 S.Dalembert 3 blocks=knicks win
1/3 J.Przybilla 3 blocks=knicks win
12/20 E.Okafor 3=knicks win
12/18 A.Kirilenko 4=knicks win
12/13 J.Smith 4=knicks win
Z.Ilgauskas 3=knicks win
A.Mourning 4=knicks win
R.Gay 4=knicks winb

I think all that was being presented here is that it helps and it's a big factor. There's no single stat that guarantees victory, but something like blocked shots is big because of the impact it has on the game.

Posted by TrueBlue:

Okafor's blocked shots were a total nonfactor. The Knicks were practically tied at the half and although they went on to lose Okafor's defensive play was very overrated.

Man, Okafor totally changed the game with his blocked shots. It was amazing, he was getting blocks in man coverage as well as help defense. The man is an amazing shotblocker. We need one of these and anyone who says that shotblocking is overrated needs to look again.

Posted by nyk4ever:

Posted by TrueBlue:

Okafor's blocked shots were a total nonfactor. The Knicks were practically tied at the half and although they went on to lose Okafor's defensive play was very overrated.

Man, Okafor totally changed the game with his blocked shots. It was amazing, he was getting blocks in man coverage as well as help defense. The man is an amazing shotblocker. We need one of these and anyone who says that shotblocking is overrated needs to look again.

I was laying my sarcasm on pretty thick with that post. I hope you caught that.

I dont think shotblocking is overrated. in fact I think it is pretty important. perhaps not THE most important thing a team should have but a good team definately needs a good dosage of it to be good.

actually maybe shotblocking is overrated. the best ones in the league, are JO, camby, okafur and mourning and their teams arent that great right now. oh well i guess it whether or not a team is good or not depends on many other, perhaps more important, factors. but i still think shotblocking at least is an area that every team has to address to some point to be good.

the non shotblockingest good team i can think of off the top of my head is phoenix and even they have stoudamire and marion at 1.5 and 1.4 blocks a game respectively. so its not like a team can just ignore shotblocking and depend on other things to be good.

Yeah I don't think ya'll don't get the point. ShotBlocking works against the knicks because they don't shot jump shots. 75 percent of the bobcats shots came from 10 plus feet away from the basket. We still would have got smoked tonight if we had most of the shotblockers you guys drool over, because they are guys who hang around paint and leave there man.(Dally,Etan, Josh smith, ect..)

In loses like this, the knicks don't shoot the jumpshot well away and the knicks don't defend well. Curry still scored 20 plus on oakfor, the knicks still out rebounded the Bobcats by 15, out scored them in the paint, had more fast break points. The Bobcats shot 60 percent from the field, go see how many times a team shots 60 percent and loses.

Posted by SlimPack:

actually maybe shotblocking is overrated. the best ones in the league, are JO, camby, okafur and mourning and their teams arent that great right now. oh well i guess it whether or not a team is good or not depends on many other, perhaps more important, factors. but i still think shotblocking at least is an area that every team has to address to some point to be good.

the non shotblockingest good team i can think of off the top of my head is phoenix and even they have stoudamire and marion at 1.5 and 1.4 blocks a game respectively. so its not like a team can just ignore shotblocking and depend on other things to be good.

Miami Shaq and Wade have missed more than a handful of games.

Denver pre Brawl was one of the hottest teams in the league.

The Bobcats are an expansion team who mind you are an improving team.

Indiana is 3gms back for the best record in the East.

Posted by Anji:

Yeah I don't think ya'll don't get the point. ShotBlocking works against the knicks because they don't shot jump shots. 75 percent of the bobcats shots came from 10 plus feet away from the basket. We still would have got smoked tonight if we had most of the shotblockers you guys drool over, because they are guys who hang around paint and leave there man.(Dally,Etan, Josh smith, ect..)

In loses like this, the knicks don't shoot the jumpshot well away and the knicks don't defend well. Curry still scored 20 plus on oakfor, the knicks still out rebounded the Bobcats by 15, out scored them in the paint, had more fast break points. The Bobcats shot 60 percent from the field, go see how many times a team shots 60 percent and loses.

You can gaurd your man much closer on the perimeter if you have a shot blocker protecting the paint in case he gets by you.

I dont want to sound as if I think block shots are useless, but Okafor blocked 7 shots in the first quarter and we were up 30-22 after it. Just a stat.

Certainly intimidating is the most important thing.

Posted by fishmike:

the Knicks lack defense period. Often guys that block a lot of shots take risks and leave guys open to do so. I just want some defense period.

And the good defenses will rotate when something like that happens. That's why I think it's dumb to think we only need a couple more defenders. Everyone needs to play defense.

Posted by DarkKnicks:

I dont want to sound as if I think block shots are useless, but Okafor blocked 7 shots in the first quarter and we were up 30-22 after it. Just a stat.

Certainly intimidating is the most important thing.

Without those blocks, the Knicks could have been up 44-22 and it's atotally different game.