Posted by newyorknewyork:

I remember an announcer stating that Isiah said he is not going to have a player lose his starting job because he got injured. So thats probably his reasoning for having Frye & Jefferies as a starter right now.

I think these last 2 games should be enough for him to put Lee back in the starting lineup for Jefferies though. Jefferies got his two games back in. Lee is out playing him. Easy decision.

Posted by SugarRayRichardson:

Posted by oohah:

Posted by Armondaone:

Ok this is off topic but i didn't want to start another thread. But francis is limping out there on the court, can't shot, can't defend. Please tell me the NY knicks are not reduced to putting one legged players out there when we are trying to get a win. what is the point of that i would rather another 2 legged player like balkman go out there and get some experience. on antoher note did the NYK's look scared in the first half or what. all of the bigs seemwd nervous against amare and he was in foul trouble. we made K.Thomas look like an great player. we gave him the shots he prefers. next up, we don't really need to overplay diaw's or marion's jumpshot we need to overplay their drive to the whole. my last 2 complaints: rebounding and foul shooting its not like it just happens once in a while everynight or bigs except for lee go for the rebound, and when we go to the foul line we just give away points ( forget hack a shaq, its more like hack a knick).
P.S. can frye get is butt in the paint and do some big man duties i feel like he thinks he is dirk or something.

P.S.S - Beyond Pissed

I agree with most of what you wrote, especially Francis playing on one leg. It just doesn't help. In fact it hurts.

You gotta understand something though: Frye plays where the coach plays him. His role in the offense is in the perimeter most of the time. he can't just decide to pay down low, that is the coaches call.

oohah

Oohah Frye is more comfy on the perimeter. Even when Curry is not in the game Frye likes the jumper. He is one of the best jump shooting bigs in the game so its not a surprise he would rather shoot jumpers than bang bang bang. Down low his basic move is a jump hook. He isnt a guy that likes to be down there. Coming in to the league he said he saw himself and patterned himself after Rasheed Wallace. Wallace used to be very good down low (better than frye) but he also would rather shoot outside. Frye is a very good player whereer he shoots. There is nothing wrong with frye getting 20ppg from 20 feet out. It works for Dirk and other quality bigs

I pretty much agree with your assessment of Frye, though I think he is a little better down low than what you give him credit for, at least in this post. However, I was just replying to armandoone's statement that Frye should play down low more. My point is that he can't just decide to play down low. Frye has to play where the coach want him to play, and that is on the perimeter.

oohah



[Edited by - oohah on 30-12-2006 4:46 PM]

Posted by SugarRayRichardson:

Jeffries never earned the starting job to begin with. Thats before his injury and before the suspension

Posted by rojasmas:

I agree Quennie! Jeffries is a bench role player at best. Like a Quentin Ross on the paperclips. Can't see him stealing Lee minutes or even worse when Q gets back.

Posted by tkf:

Posted by BlueSeats:

Frye is being underutilized. he should be putting it on the floor, posting in, working that jump hook, running the lanes in transition, etc.

Jeffries is okay but he's another one of these guys who float in and out of positions owning none. I find lee and Balkman pay better dividends in those roles. Better noses for the ball.

Having a couple of "interchangeable" guys is nice, but you need some specialists too - like a guy who can shoot the lights out.

I would not consider this guy a specialist, but he has one skill that we sorely need. His name is mike miller. guy can shoot, smart player, can handle and pass the ball.

Jeffries I have no problem with, actually I like seeing him on the floor with lee and balkman at times, but i think our biggest problem when we do that is the not just the lack of a scorer, but the lack of a scorer who can shoot a high % from the outside... someone to spread the floor and open the lanes up for balk and lee and jeffries..

Posted by BlueSeats:

Posted by TrueBlue:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/statistics?stat=nba3ptpct&season=2007&league=w

This team doesn't value shooters all that much, just from the looks of this Matt Barnes and Ime Udoka are amongst the leaders in 3pt shooting.

Wow, I thought Barnes did some nice things with us, but Ime? If that guy ever becomes anything I'll be the first to admit that I missed the boat on that guy. He did nothing for me.

I'm sure it was hard to truly evaluate his talents throwing him into the fire and mutiny of this franchise last yr. He was a top NBDL performer last yr so obviously the potential was there.

Posted by TheGame:

Compared to our other players, Jeffries is probably the best perimeter defender that we have. He is taller than Q and has more experience and understanding of NBA defense than Balkman and he is simply a better defensive player than Lee (other than rebounding). If he could hit an open jumpshot, I would definitely agree with starting him. However, since he seems to be unable to hit those shots, we probably should be starting Lee instead. I think IT is going to give Jeffires a few more games to see if he can gel with the offense before he makes a move. Remember Lee passes up alot of jumpers too because he still does not have full confidence in his jumper (although it is clear that it has improved). I think the overall team defense is better with Jeffries on the floor, but it remains to be seen if the overall team performance on offense and defense is better with him starting.