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misterearl
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12/19/2006  9:19 AM
Or, does it just take longer than people understand for a team to learn to play together?

and yes

we're talkin' 'bout practice

practice

we're talkin' 'bout practice
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12/19/2006  10:03 AM
Posted by crzymdups:
Posted by Swishfm3:
Posted by crzymdups:
Posted by misterearl:

I still support DLee, Qrich, Curry, Frye, Jefferies, Jamal.

crzymdups - how do you separate the players you support from those that you don not support?

what is your criteria?

players I want to root for?

why do you think that people who don't support every aspect of the team aren't real fans? it's been six years of crap. most of us are here day in and day out. as this thread points out, some of us only show up 1 game out of 3 to gloat.

logging to ultimateknicks makes you a REAL Knick fan...

that's not the only thing, but it's certainly part of it. I've never bought the notion of haters/lovers. people just have different ideas about what they want the team to do. I've never said anyone here isn't a fan. I think this holier than thou attitude about fandom is idiotic. we're all fans here, no one's fandom is better than anyone else's. it's not a competition. the only competitions are the ones the Knicks seem to lose every night.

I see what you saying.

I look at myself..as a long time Knick fan who HATED Jeff Van Gundy and the whole Layden era..I've never wanted the Knicks to fail in order for JVG and Layden to get fired.

I thought S.Anderson was garbage for us...but I never wanted him to perform well just so we can use him as trade bait. I wanted him to perform well because he was a Knick and wanted us to win and get better.
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12/19/2006  4:16 PM
Hell, I cheered when Maciej Lampe was drafted

and he's out of the league
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12/25/2006  7:56 PM
You can always tell when a legend like James Brown makes his transition

just look for the lack of Mister Earl posts

A sad day indeed
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12/25/2006  10:23 PM
Posted by misterearl:

You can always tell when a legend like James Brown makes his transition

just look for the lack of Mister Earl posts

A sad day indeed

Indeed.
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12/26/2006  1:57 AM
I don't think misterearl is that bad really, the worst is Hardkore, he goes away for like entire seasons. And Killa doesn't exactly show up after we loose. Lets give credit where its due, the people who really don't show up but to gloat over the Knicks winning a game are Killa, and after a 4 game winning streak, Hardkore.

Honestly at this point, everything is pretty much personal for some people. I'm the first to admit I hate IT, and so do some other people. I root for that snake to fail.

Then there are some people who support IT more than they support the team. They know who they are. Why? I have some theories, but without proof I would not accuse somebody of something like that.

A bunch of people probably are not even real, multiple handles for Killa or any one of his avatars. I'd say about half of the "we support our lord IT no matter what" people are not real. That's why I try not to argue about IT anymore. I feel like people just come here to piss everybody by supporting an obvious failure.
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12/26/2006  9:08 AM
swishfm3
I see what you saying.

I look at myself..as a long time Knick fan who HATED Jeff Van Gundy and the whole Layden era..I've never wanted the Knicks to fail in order for JVG and Layden to get fired.

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The difference was we had players(CAMBY-SPREE-HOUSTON-LJ) regardless of JVG stubborness, who we adored as knicks fans so it was easy to root for the team as a whole.

But with Isiah the heart is missing from the players he's assembled together and that's why it's kind of difficult to root whole heartedly.



[Edited by - playa2 on 12-26-2006 02:17]
JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
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12/26/2006  9:30 AM
People adored (THe coach Choker-THe third overall bust-The coaches son-The busted back)?????? Or is that the revised history after watching them play???? No Heart equal the Rooks the sophomores, JJ2,Crawford & Q????




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12/26/2006  10:15 AM
Posted by Anji:

People adored (THe coach Choker-THe third overall bust-The coaches son-The busted back)?????? Or is that the revised history after watching them play???? No Heart equal the Rooks the sophomores, JJ2,Crawford & Q????


Sure there is a little hindsight thrown in, BUT
1-We were winning
2-You looked at the team itself and it personified heart and passion for the game
3-The veterans set the tone not the rookies
4-You NEVER questioned the heart or determination of ANY player on that team towards trying to win. So far the effort of Francis, Marbury, Curry, Frye, Jerome James, Nate(the games where he hardly shot this season)-core guys- have all had their effort questioned at some point this season. That never happened and wasn't allowed to happen on those teams
5-Their was solid defined leadership on those teams
6-Those guys never griped to or about the press or the fans
7-JVG made sure THEY took responibility for poor play. If someone was injured, if someone made a bonehead play, if they were on a losing streak, it was always "We did not get the job done". It was never even though of to complan about fans, press, referees(although Jeff loved to torture them when Big Chief Triangle came to town), injuries, scheduling, or anything else. It was always about players.
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12/26/2006  10:24 AM
>>But with Isiah the heart is missing from the players he's assembled together and that's why it's kind of difficult to root whole heartedly.

Playa2 - the Knicks showed more heart last week than they showed in six years.

The young guys did not back down as they played, and won, with only 8 guys in uniform

a positive sign of better things to come

gradually
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12/26/2006  10:30 AM
4-You NEVER questioned the heart or determination of ANY player on that team towards trying to win. So far the effort of Francis, Marbury, Curry, Frye, Jerome James, Nate(the games where he hardly shot this season)-core guys- have all had their effort questioned at some point this season. That never happened and wasn't allowed to happen on those teams

Frye started the season just awful, but when would we have questioned his effort? he always seems to play hard and try to me.

oohah

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12/26/2006  10:33 AM
Posted by misterearl:

>>But with Isiah the heart is missing from the players he's assembled together and that's why it's kind of difficult to root whole heartedly.

Playa2 - the Knicks showed more heart last week than they showed in six years.

The young guys did not back down as they played, and won, with only 8 guys in uniform

a positive sign of better things to come

gradually

The Veteran players are the one that lead the way, the rookies are the supporting cast.

This team is assembled backwards.
JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
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12/26/2006  11:47 AM
Posted by oohah:
4-You NEVER questioned the heart or determination of ANY player on that team towards trying to win. So far the effort of Francis, Marbury, Curry, Frye, Jerome James, Nate(the games where he hardly shot this season)-core guys- have all had their effort questioned at some point this season. That never happened and wasn't allowed to happen on those teams

Frye started the season just awful, but when would we have questioned his effort? he always seems to play hard and try to me.

oohah

With Frye, I kind of remember people questioning his effort on the boards and on defense.
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12/26/2006  3:29 PM
Say What?

>>The Veteran players are the one that lead the way, the rookies are the supporting cast.

That ain't necessarily so dude. What rookies?

Our leaders are at least sophomores.

Besides, you build around players from solid college programs with a history as winners. Frye is a model citizen from a solid program at Arizona with Lute Olsen. David Lee the same at Florida. Jeffries played for Bobby Knight. Mardy for John Chaney. Those coaches produce fundamentally sound players with refined work habits.

On the other hand, Marbury has had more coaches than all of them put together, and his game reflects the confusion. I trust he will continue to work it out as he gets comfortable with the new rotations.

Malik Rose has been there and sone that, but he's strictly locker room enforcer.

The former high schooler Curry is still learning. So is Jamal. They have a bond which the Knicks can benefit from.

Quentin does not back down. Nor does the feisty Nate. I like that.



Suppporting cast, lead cast... big deal. Just so long as they cohere as a team that gradually learns how to trust one other on the floor. Bear in mind, these guys have only been together for 3 months.

My sense is the Knicks have taken a baby step in that direction. Just so happens people care more about throwing rocks at the front office, or playing amateur GM, than watching the players come together in incremental steps.

Boo


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12/26/2006  5:47 PM
[sarcasm] Yeah I cant stand guys like Misterearl. Posters who show a genuine love and enthusiasm for a team always anger and upset me. The real NY fans are bitter, miserable bomb throwers who hurl invectives out of their basement in the hopes of convincing lost souls that they should be the Knicks GM[/sarcasm]. Those who live in glass houses homie...

To date I don’t feel Zeke’s record has justified his salary or position. Isiah has underperformed point blank. That said, how many other current GM's have a better draft history than Zeke? The knicks have established a hell of a nucleus. If they can make the playoffs they will will certainly have the latitude to further reshape the roster in the future. I dont see how constantly drowning this board in dogma and negativity is productive. Its not that bad right now.

I'll flip Simrud's post a bit. I don’t understand why Isiah has become the lightening rod that he has. I have my theories as well, but I'll just keep them to myself.

In any event, I think the estrogen-laden posts and hounding of Isiah is definitely out of control. One shouldn’t be this emotional over another man.
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12/26/2006  10:33 PM
sebstar - well stated

I had a similar estrogen-laden comment for Marc Berman but why bother?

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12/27/2006  11:22 PM
no quit
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12/27/2006  11:43 PM
All the usual suspects need to get in the shots while they can on what looks to be a brutal road swing--- They might not have many more opportunities after that. I cant tell you how much I have enjoyed the Knicks lately. Excellent ish.
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