Posted by Solace:

Posted by TMS:

disagree... w/AI & Melo on the team, they'd be 1 of the most prolific scoring tandems in the NBA.

Rule #1 of the NBA: Don't trade a good bigman without getting a better one back.

What's their frontcourt without Camby? KneeMart, Nene who is oft-injured, Reggie Evans and Dalembert? Sorry, that won't cut it. Denver wants a championship. They're not going to condense everything into two players, one who is starting to slow and break down (Iverson), and destroy their frontcourt in the process. Only the Knicks would do something like that.

dude, the article makes reference to DEN being interested... i was only going off that & making a proposal that might work under the cap... if the #1 rule is not to trade a good bigman w/o getting a better one back, no trades would ever get done in the NBA... someone's gotta make a concession in order to gain in another area... there is no set formula to build a championship contender... if there was i'm pretty sure every GM in the league would be trying to emulate it... every team's situation is different.

Are you kidding
AI is taking 30-40 shoth per game.
He need a band of defenders around him who are not taking a shot and just used to rebound amd hastle for his misses
This is nothing to do with Knicks of today.
Plus I dont think he is an idiot to go from one lost case to another

Of all the little guards Isiah's ever acquired in his own image, Iverson comes closest. I think Isiah would love to coach him.

I've heard some stuff on here about AI is just another shoot first PG bla bla bla. Let me tell you something-this guy is MILEs ahead of marbury and Francis always has been--he's a warrior who has been in the finals--who carried a team to the finals--this isnt a players whose skills have eroded. you have a chance to get this player you get him

AI for their choice of Marbury or Francis + Frye.

then I would concentrate to see what I can do to pry Hilton Armstrong from NO.

Posted by BRIGGS:

If Checkettes Grunfeld or Riley were here--this is the avenue we'd be going, I guarantee it. He'd brimng back emotion to the garden--BUT he's miles ahead of what we have now so far ahead of marbury and francis + he plays good D. it might be controversial but it would work imho--no doubt about it.

if brown was here, there would be no doubt that iverson would be a knick within a day.

Posted by djsunyc:

Posted by BRIGGS:

If Checkettes Grunfeld or Riley were here--this is the avenue we'd be going, I guarantee it. He'd brimng back emotion to the garden--BUT he's miles ahead of what we have now so far ahead of marbury and francis + he plays good D. it might be controversial but it would work imho--no doubt about it.

if brown was here, there would be no doubt that iverson would be a knick within a day.

No way--he doesnt like iverson. If we had Iverson and were able to get hilton armstrong for nate and a pick

backcourt
iversen collins Crawford Q
Balkman jefferies
Curry Lee Armstrong 9 man

For the record, AI has the same "brain type" as Jordan, Bird, and... Brian Scalabrine. :)
He's a winner through and through--- ultra-competitive, and doesn't succumb to pressure.

At least, that's what brain-typing says about him.

If we can make a trade based on Marbury/Francis... I'd do it. He's always been better than either of 'em... and at 2 years younger, both have more upside...

If you trade Marbury or Francis in a trade for Iverson, and buy the other out then I would be the biggest kool aid drinking Knicks fan of all time. Only thing that would make it better would be to work Dalembert in the equation.

You would have to eventually trade Crawford however. Wouldn't really make sense to have him in a backcourt with Iverson.

Alright, back to reality. GO FRANBURY!!!!!!!

Posted by BRIGGS:

Posted by Bonn1997:

Posted by Solace:

Posted by TMS:

i think DEN would make a good match for AI.

Miller, Camby & Najera for Iverson & Dalembert might work

No way the Nuggets are trading Camby. That trade makes the Nuggets suck.

It's not just losing Camby. Miller runs their offense very well too. I can't imagine them giving up all that.

I want to see what transpires from this. This is taking on 60MM in salary--even though AI is great--the actual market might not be that big. If we offer Marbury an Frye--arent we getting rid of a 60mm$ headache--for a guy who is still a premier player? What do we have to lose unless you feel Frye is going to be an all star?

actually id just offer marbury and a pick of collins or nate. forget Frye--Philly is not exactly in a position of power


Marbury nate and Balkman for AI--thats it and thats a good deal for Philly--

I only see 3 teams in this
Dallas[ and they will offer ending contracts and maybe a pick]
Boston[Ratliff and some youngins]
Knicks [Marbury Balkman Nate]

If I had to look at all 3 scenarios id probably take the ending contracts and pick. So the odds are Dallas imho

[Edited by - BRIGGS on 12-09-2006 12:44 PM]

Iverson is a great individual player but I'm not sure he's right for us. I think he'd give us a great motivational lift, and make us "relevant" again, but that's what Marbury did for us, and we're still nowhere for it.

I think we have some guys who could play with Ivy, like Q, Balkman and Lee, but they have guys like Korver, Iggy, Dalembert and Webber, and it's getting them nowhere. Are their guys really so inferior to ours? They might even be better (Iggy certainly is.)

I'm as emotional as anyone, and I'd love to geta jolt by seeing AI in NY. He's got as much heart as anyone and I find him easy to root for, but I don't see him as a solution to what ails us. He's a quick fix, like a Snickers bar when you're hungry. I think we've got to stop trying to reclaim guys before their knees give out and work on getting our own next big thing.

AI is pound-for-pound the best player in the last 50 years. Comparing him to next-tier stars like Marbury, Francis, Jefferson, Redd and even Bosh and Camby is just silly. He is a superstar. There are 3 players in the league that can get you CONSISTENTLY 30 and 10. AI, Bron and Wade.

People have been saying Iverson is slowing down for years now, and he still gets you 30 and 10.

If we can get Iverson for Francis/Marbury, Frye, Nate and Crawford we have to do that deal. Right now this team is giving up 102+ ppg. Iverson gives us a way to scor 103+. Not the way to win a championship perhaps, but a helluva lot better then right now.

I would do anything to get Iverson. Dalembert is badly overpaid and overrated, but I'd take him in this deal too.

You know, I had no problem with Isiah dumping Jalen and Mo, but for this deal they could have been very useful.