Posted by islesfan:

Why did we need Marcus when we have 4 shooting guards playing point guard?

is marcus williams even a pure pg? oh well hes been inconsistent this season (although you expect that from a rookie), and looks to be a talented player but even having said that, at this point i dont consider drafting balkman over marcus a mistake, At least not an obvious one. i guess im just not as sold on him as you guys are. dont get me wrong, williams could turn out to be a very good player, but based on what ive seen so far i wouldnt say that the odds of him being great are any higher than the odds of balkman being great.

jeez even looking at the final boxscore of the game his numbers werent even all that great, so i dont get why people are fawning him so much.

[Edited by - slimpack on 12-07-2006 11:22 PM]

Posted by islesfan:


[Edited by - islesfan on 12-07-2006 11:18 PM]

heh i guess thats a good point, but I'm not convinced that your prediction of what kind of players balkman and marcus will be in the future is accurate. I guess thats where we disagree.

[Edited by - slimpack on 12-07-2006 11:25 PM]

Posted by crzymdups:

didn't catch the game, but did the Legend have anything to do with Nash getting 42pts and 13 asts and the Suns scoring 162 points?

I think Arenas just hit another 3.

Posted by SlimPack:

Posted by islesfan:

Why did we need Marcus when we have 4 shooting guards playing point guard?

is marcus williams even a pure pg? oh well hes been inconsistent this season (although you expect that from a rookie), and looks to be a talented player but even having said that, at this point i dont consider drafting balkman over marcus a mistake, At least not an obvious one. i guess im just not as sold on him as you guys are. dont get me wrong, williams could turn out to be a very good player, but based on what ive seen so far i wouldnt say that the odds of him being great are any higher than the odds of balkman being great.

jeez even looking at the final boxscore of the game his numbers werent even all that great, so i dont get why people are fawning him so much.

[Edited by - slimpack on 12-07-2006 11:22 PM]

I don't like the way M Williams has been playing--he's really in a role where he plays 2 G a lot and then when he's been in there as the primary PG he's had too many games he's been shoot first which isnt what makes him special. BUT he's also dealt with a badly sprained left wrist[his shooting hand] He has shown spurts of great great play at times. Deron Williams didnt set the league on fire in yr 1 and he was able to get more PT because they laid him down as the starter from day 1. M Williams is behind a hofer, and contrary to what I believed[j kidd slowing down quite a bit] the guy has been fantastic all year. Marcus has special skills and in the next 2-3 years you will see why he was a steal that late in the 1st round.

Posted by codeunknown:

Posted by djsunyc:

watching kidd and nash...and then marcus off the bench makes me want to punch isiah in the face.

none of those guys can will their team to win the way Marbs can.

So true. Marcus Williams is a future stud, and we missed out... Bynum and Marcus Williams would've looked nice on this team, eh? It's funny, but when Isiah does make a drafting mistake, he misses big.

Oh well, can't wait till he's fired.

The thing with Marcus Williams is although he is struggling he makes the game easy for people and gets them the ball in the right place something none of our four guards do

Posted by Swishfm3:

Did the Nets win?

M.Williams has a decent game....his second this season....and you guys are acting like a chinese lady ready to give him a 'happy ending'.

BOth against the Suns........................... Skeat,Skeat,Skeat,Skeat,Skeat!!!!!

[Edited by - anji on 12-08-2006 09:48 AM]

I think people miss the point here, last season we had a nice pg there to be drafted, in Jarred Jack someone that was a noted leader/defender in college and all that was holding him back was he was high turnover prone.

Our backcourt consisted of two guards Marbury/Crawford that are not playmakers, they are combo guards that have mistakenly been referred to as point guards.........both players are bad defenders

So what does Isiah do: He chooses at 5'7 combo guard with out of the world athletic ability someone that is going to bring a buzz to the crowd. He is a shoot first player that often makes crazy plays, likes to show off which is fine, but does it at all the wrong times......

Compounds his small mistake with a big one bringing in an identical clone to Marbury in Francis.....

He makes a terrible signing in James to be our center, decides to draft a player who is a center in Frye, but decides he wants to hit the home run so he trades for Curry........

In the offseason he sees someone on the market who is a noted defender, Jefferies who averages 6pts 5rbs and less than 1 blk/stl a game, which is odd because as defender he should be able to do a little more in the last three categories especially being long and 6'10.........but then he decides he is going to draft a player after signing someone to a fiver year deal that does the exact same things but only rebounds better, blks shots better, and can do things that jefferies can't, so why sign a guy to a five year deal if he really isn't bringing that much different to the table......

why bring in a guard that does the exact same things worse than another guard, or draft a player that needs the ball in hands in order to score to be successful....


The reason is there is no plan, no thought, no real method to isiah putting a team together, he just sees pieces he believes are talented and adds them, even though they don't fit or mesh well together

I wanted him on draft night when he was avaible last year, it has nothing to do with him being a starter, i like his size/d/leadership.....(Draft Disaster was the post I started on draft night you can check if you want)....not doggin nate, if we didn't have crawford i would have been fine with the selection, but everyone and this you draft for a need bull ****.......Nate is fine if you have someone to defend at the 2g, but we don't

I am saying Isiah has a pattern of repeating the same dumb decision at every position.....and I wanted Marcus Williams then Lowry this year to players that would have had a nice future impact.......

Wow! Knicks Nets give up 161 pts, 17 three pointers and lose at home. Horrible defensive showing Great game

[Edited by - bigbeast on 12-08-2006 10:52 AM]