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11/27/2006  4:34 PM
Spectator at the Garden:
"Who is this guy with the towels on Knicks bench"
Veteran Spectator:
"This is Marbary. He distributes the towels to Knicks players. He gets 20 mils salary for this..."
Spectator:
"Why than he looks so gloomy?"
Veteran Spectator:
"The towels are stinky.. You know... So he became stinky too... Nobody wants to deal with him."
Spectator:
"Pure guy... It's hard breaking..."

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11/27/2006  9:51 PM
Isola is also defending Marbury.
I felt Thomas went out of his way to embarrass Marbury in the home loss to the Houston Rockets. Marbury wasn’t being erratic and the Knicks were only down eight when Thomas called a timeout to bench Marbury and Francis.

He goes on to talk alot about Marbury and the relationship he had with him prior to being a knick.
I think there is something to what Berman wrote. I want both of these guys gone but Isiah is a snake and maybe using this situation to deflect all of the criticism and outcry for the horrible job he has done assembling this roster. Isiah as a player did anything to win and I am sure he is not above doing this to Marbury to keep his job.
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11/27/2006  10:46 PM
yes, Marbury's piss poor play had nothing at all to do w/his benching ... those 3 points & 3 assists he had in HOU were dominant... let's not even bother discussing the obvious attempt at public humiliation in the game the other night against that championship calibre team, the Bulls, when Marbury was benched after leading his team to a half time deficit of 22 points where he had 0 FG attempts & a huge 4 assists... it was all a ploy by Isiah to humiliate & alienate the biggest trade acquisition of his tenure & the "franchise player" he himself brought here to revitalize this floundering franchise.

come on bro, u can't honestly believe he would make his biggest trade acquisition look stupid on purpose just so he can deflect the blame of this season's losses away from himself... Marbury's embarassment this season has been brought on by him & him alone... humiliating him in front of the NY fans does nothing but make Isiah's decision to bring him here look worse & worse... why would he do that to himself?

there are no excuses this year... Marbury got what he wanted... LB was fired & he got the coach he wanted to play for all along... now he's playing like crap & it's the coach's fault again? or was it the fans' fault? the excuses never stop for this guy it seems.
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Posted by CrushAlot:

Isola is also defending Marbury.
I felt Thomas went out of his way to embarrass Marbury in the home loss to the Houston Rockets. Marbury wasn’t being erratic and the Knicks were only down eight when Thomas called a timeout to bench Marbury and Francis.

Here is what I don't understand. All of us have played sports or watched sports. We HAVE to know that the only real leverage a coach has over a player is to bench him. LB did it, Isiah did it. Donovan did it to Noah. It could be construed as embarrassing to the player. I don't think it's embarrassing so much as the coach obviously told the player to change something about his game or attitude or something and it didn't pan out so the benching happened.

Isiah is now only realizing what his 3 or 4 or 5 other coaches were probably telling him all along: Marb is a cancer. That means to me that Isiah didn't take the time as a President to be amongst his players and coaches to find out what was really going on and help out the situation. And now he also suffers for it.

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11/27/2006  11:02 PM
Posted by martin:
Posted by CrushAlot:

Isola is also defending Marbury.
I felt Thomas went out of his way to embarrass Marbury in the home loss to the Houston Rockets. Marbury wasn’t being erratic and the Knicks were only down eight when Thomas called a timeout to bench Marbury and Francis.

Here is what I don't understand. All of us have played sports or watched sports. We HAVE to know that the only real leverage a coach has over a player is to bench him. LB did it, Isiah did it. Donovan did it to Noah. It could be construed as embarrassing to the player. I don't think it's embarrassing so much as the coach obviously told the player to change something about his game or attitude or something and it didn't pan out so the benching happened.

Isiah is now only realizing what his 3 or 4 or 5 other coaches were probably telling him all along: Marb is a cancer. That means to me that Isiah didn't take the time as a President to be amongst his players and coaches to find out what was really going on and help out the situation. And now he also suffers for it.

Or just didn't give a ****.

Oh the irony.
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11/27/2006  11:07 PM
I don't disagree with you about Marbury's play,the impact he has on teammates, his inability to have relationships, his inability to make teams better, his inabiltiy to learn and get along with coaches, and I want him gone. I have a hard time watching the team that I planned my schedule around now because of him. He is a disaster, a cancer, and appears to be unable to learn how to change. However, my point was more about Isiah and his character. He has made a complete mess of this team and is getting his due by having to coach it. However, the focus is on Marbury and not Isiah and Isiah is feeding the fire. In the past he has always defended Marbury and had a, "special relationship" with him. Now that he is coaching him and in the hot seat he has been very quick to throw Marbury under the bus. I believe that Isiah will lie, cheat, and betray anyone to get to where he wants or to keep his job. Marbury is not that sophisticated a guy. I don't think he can comprehend that Isiah would be doing this to him. This by no means is an endorsement of Marbury but rather an indictment of Isiah. As a GM it was always all about Isiah. His moves were always supposed to make him look brilliant. Even this past draft when he passed on Williams. In my opinion, he thought that there was no way Williams would be there and that he would wow the world again with his pick of Balkman. When Williams was there he decided to go with Balkman anyway to improve on his status of draft genius. Unfortunately he let a lottery talent pt guard slip by late in the draft.
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11/27/2006  11:12 PM
Posted by CrushAlot:

I don't disagree with you about Marbury's play,the impact he has on teammates, his inability to have relationships, his inability to make teams better, his inabiltiy to learn and get along with coaches, and I want him gone. I have a hard time watching the team that I planned my schedule around now because of him. He is a disaster, a cancer, and appears to be unable to learn how to change. However, my point was more about Isiah and his character. He has made a complete mess of this team and is getting his due by having to coach it. However, the focus is on Marbury and not Isiah and Isiah is feeding the fire. In the past he has always defended Marbury and had a, "special relationship" with him. Now that he is coaching him and in the hot seat he has been very quick to throw Marbury under the bus. I believe that Isiah will lie, cheat, and betray anyone to get to where he wants or to keep his job. Marbury is not that sophisticated a guy. I don't think he can comprehend that Isiah would be doing this to him. This by no means is an endorsement of Marbury but rather an indictment of Isiah. As a GM it was always all about Isiah. His moves were always supposed to make him look brilliant. Even this past draft when he passed on Williams. In my opinion, he thought that there was no way Williams would be there and that he would wow the world again with his pick of Balkman. When Williams was there he decided to go with Balkman anyway to improve on his status of draft genius. Unfortunately he let a lottery talent pt guard slip by late in the draft.

I hear that. When Isiah first came on board I asked around the professionals to give me their take, I mostly got "used car salesman" and "snake".
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11/27/2006  11:18 PM
Posted by martin:
Posted by CrushAlot:

I don't disagree with you about Marbury's play,the impact he has on teammates, his inability to have relationships, his inability to make teams better, his inabiltiy to learn and get along with coaches, and I want him gone. I have a hard time watching the team that I planned my schedule around now because of him. He is a disaster, a cancer, and appears to be unable to learn how to change. However, my point was more about Isiah and his character. He has made a complete mess of this team and is getting his due by having to coach it. However, the focus is on Marbury and not Isiah and Isiah is feeding the fire. In the past he has always defended Marbury and had a, "special relationship" with him. Now that he is coaching him and in the hot seat he has been very quick to throw Marbury under the bus. I believe that Isiah will lie, cheat, and betray anyone to get to where he wants or to keep his job. Marbury is not that sophisticated a guy. I don't think he can comprehend that Isiah would be doing this to him. This by no means is an endorsement of Marbury but rather an indictment of Isiah. As a GM it was always all about Isiah. His moves were always supposed to make him look brilliant. Even this past draft when he passed on Williams. In my opinion, he thought that there was no way Williams would be there and that he would wow the world again with his pick of Balkman. When Williams was there he decided to go with Balkman anyway to improve on his status of draft genius. Unfortunately he let a lottery talent pt guard slip by late in the draft.

I hear that. When Isiah first came on board I asked around the professionals to give me their take, I mostly got "used car salesman" and "snake".

That's exactly what my take was.

Do I still get to start the official "Isiah is Gone" thread?
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11/27/2006  11:18 PM
then Marbury can blame himself for putting his trust into a notorious "snake" & "used car salesman", & Isiah can blame himself for staking his entire tenure as Knicks' GM on a player who's been a (don't wanna use the "c" word here so i'll say "spoiled rotten vagina" instead) on just about every team he's ever played for... both of them deserve each other & there are no ones to blame but themselves for the mess this franchise finds itself in these days.
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11/27/2006  11:26 PM
Larry got in one year:

$7,000,000 from detroit to let him walk
$10,000,000 to coach the knicks
$18,500,000 to walk from Knicks

$35,000,000 in about 14 months.

And it would appear that he was fired for being right, and trying to move the franchise in the right direction.

now most Larry haters can find cause with larrys performance, but got damm he was paid a boatload of jack.

And Dolan looks like a moron!
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11/27/2006  11:43 PM
Posted by Nalod:

Larry got in one year:

$7,000,000 from detroit to let him walk
$10,000,000 to coach the knicks
$18,500,000 to walk from Knicks

$35,000,000 in about 14 months.

And it would appear that he was fired for being right, and trying to move the franchise in the right direction.

now most Larry haters can find cause with larrys performance, but got damm he was paid a boatload of jack.

And Dolan looks like a moron!

That's tip money for Dolan.
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11/28/2006  12:00 AM
Then I would also like a tip.
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