[ IMAGES: Images ON turn off | ACCOUNT: User Status is LOCKED why? ]

Webber wants to be traded(Artical)
Author Thread
Elite
Posts: 26372
Alba Posts: 23
Joined: 12/30/2003
Member: #510

11/17/2006  11:39 AM
WEBBER CANNOT BE A WORSE DEFENDER THAN CURRY PERIOD

And he definately rebounds better than him.

So take him, and take the shorter contract....... I would rather trade Steve than Jamal....... Why? Jamal is clutch and can win games for you in the playoffs. You need players like that... If we dont have Jamal who makes the clutch plays for us? Nate?
AUTOADVERT
izybx
Posts: 22366
Alba Posts: 2
Joined: 10/16/2006
Member: #1178
USA
11/17/2006  11:41 AM
Posted by Elite:

WEBBER CANNOT BE A WORSE DEFENDER THAN CURRY PERIOD

And he definately rebounds better than him.

So take him, and take the shorter contract....... I would rather trade Steve than Jamal....... Why? Jamal is clutch and can win games for you in the playoffs. You need players like that... If we dont have Jamal who makes the clutch plays for us? Nate?
Webber is a worse defender than Curry. Watch a sixers game and see for yourself.

Beat the Evil Empire. BEAT MIAMI
izybx
Posts: 22366
Alba Posts: 2
Joined: 10/16/2006
Member: #1178
USA
11/17/2006  11:42 AM
He might be the worse defensive big man in the country.
Beat the Evil Empire. BEAT MIAMI
Elite
Posts: 26372
Alba Posts: 23
Joined: 12/30/2003
Member: #510

11/17/2006  11:50 AM
I REFUSE TO BELIEVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
franco12
Posts: 34069
Alba Posts: 4
Joined: 2/19/2004
Member: #599
USA
11/17/2006  11:50 AM
he put up 20 & 9.9 last year-

This year, points are down- boards almost the same- I don't believe his skills could have dropped that fast.

I wouldn't trade curry or crawford for webber just to get rid of them- though I think Curry is a bum, he still needs more time to adjust- playing in nyc isn't easy- and I think they have value in the league.

Marbury would probably be my first choice- I don't think he can get back on track in nyc- too much pressure, too many expectations.

Marbury's weakness as a defender wouldn't be so obvious in philly since they have other defenders who are good.

Having webber mentor Frye might not be the worst thing.
izybx
Posts: 22366
Alba Posts: 2
Joined: 10/16/2006
Member: #1178
USA
11/17/2006  11:56 AM
His skill have dropped that fast, hes a walking relic, his knees are done, id rather have Walt Frazier on the floor then Webber.
Beat the Evil Empire. BEAT MIAMI
TMS
Posts: 60684
Alba Posts: 617
Joined: 5/11/2004
Member: #674
USA
11/17/2006  11:58 AM
Marbury & Francis will not interest Philly in the least... it will have to involve Curry & some other players, because if Philly is to take on added salary, the players they're getting have to at least give them upside potential to improve their team going forward... neither Marbury nor Francis gives them that.
After 7 years & 40K+ posts, banned by martin for calling Nalod a 'moron'. Awesome.
Silverfuel
Posts: 31750
Alba Posts: 3
Joined: 6/27/2002
Member: #268
USA
11/17/2006  12:04 PM
Please stay away from injury prone big men! Please! If healthy, he will take minutes away from Frye and Lee and I agree with izybx that he is worse than Curry on defense. He does not care about defense. I'm sure better deals will come along. Think about it this way, if Isiah wants to trade for Webber, it has to be a bad trade. Don't do it Zeke.
A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step.
franco12
Posts: 34069
Alba Posts: 4
Joined: 2/19/2004
Member: #599
USA
11/17/2006  12:16 PM
Posted by TMS:

Marbury & Francis will not interest Philly in the least... it will have to involve Curry & some other players, because if Philly is to take on added salary, the players they're getting have to at least give them upside potential to improve their team going forward... neither Marbury nor Francis gives them that.

agreed. but I don't think we can give up on curry after one year. granted, it's a year of regressed play- but I think there is a bigger adjustment to playing in nyc that he might still be trying to get over.

next year, if he doesn't have it- move him.
franco12
Posts: 34069
Alba Posts: 4
Joined: 2/19/2004
Member: #599
USA
11/17/2006  12:17 PM
Posted by Silverfuel:

Please stay away from injury prone big men! Please! If healthy, he will take minutes away from Frye and Lee and I agree with izybx that he is worse than Curry on defense. He does not care about defense. I'm sure better deals will come along. Think about it this way, if Isiah wants to trade for Webber, it has to be a bad trade. Don't do it Zeke.

I don't care if Webber is hurt- if I could dump marbury, I'd be happy.
Elite
Posts: 26372
Alba Posts: 23
Joined: 12/30/2003
Member: #510

11/17/2006  12:20 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2665203

Webber meets with 76ers president over reduced role

PHILADELPHIA -- Chris Webber has talked with Philadelphia 76ers president Billy King about the star forward's unhappiness over a reduced role that's included two fourth-quarter benchings.


Webber's minutes and production have dramatically declined this season, and coach Maurice Cheeks has rested him for two entire fourth quarters in seven games, turning him into a $20 million role player.

King said Thursday night he's talked recently with Webber but did not say if a trade was requested. Webber is due another $22 million next year in the final season of his contract.

"The focus has been on the team all year, and Chris is an important member of the team," King said. "Maurice has been making decisions each game that he and the staff feel will give us the best opportunity to succeed, and I support him in the decision-making process."

Webber is averaging 10.3 points on 37 percent shooting in 30.6 minutes, well off his 14-year career averages of 21.5 points on 48 percent shooting in 37.9 minutes.

"I'm not going to keep playing like this," Webber told the Sacramento Bee after scoring six points Wednesday night in Seattle. "I don't like this role."

Cheeks has said he's been very clear with Webber about what he expects from the five-time All-Star.

Since Webber was traded from Sacramento to Philadelphia before the 2005 trade deadline, he's never really seemed to be happy playing with a franchise that has hovered around .500 since his arrival. He butted heads with former coach Jim O'Brien at the end of 2005, calling his half-season the worst situation of his basketball career.

"Timeout times 50, basically," he said, referring to his infamous gaffe at Michigan.

But he rebounded with a strong season under Cheeks last year, averaging 20.2 points and 9.9 rebounds in 75 games, the most games he'd played in the last six seasons.

He said in training camp he was feeling as strong physically as he had since undergoing microfracture surgery on his left knee in June 2003.

A snapshot of his frustrations came last week when Webber had six of his 11 rebounds in the third quarter in a win against Miami, then sat in the fourth. Webber deftly deflected numerous postgame questions about his benching, smiling through brief answers and saying only that he was happy the Sixers were winning.

"It's whatever," he said.

izybx
Posts: 22366
Alba Posts: 2
Joined: 10/16/2006
Member: #1178
USA
11/17/2006  12:23 PM
Posted by franco12:
Posted by Silverfuel:

Please stay away from injury prone big men! Please! If healthy, he will take minutes away from Frye and Lee and I agree with izybx that he is worse than Curry on defense. He does not care about defense. I'm sure better deals will come along. Think about it this way, if Isiah wants to trade for Webber, it has to be a bad trade. Don't do it Zeke.

I don't care if Webber is hurt- if I could dump marbury, I'd be happy.

Great logic

Beat the Evil Empire. BEAT MIAMI
TMS
Posts: 60684
Alba Posts: 617
Joined: 5/11/2004
Member: #674
USA
11/17/2006  12:34 PM
Posted by franco12:
Posted by TMS:

Marbury & Francis will not interest Philly in the least... it will have to involve Curry & some other players, because if Philly is to take on added salary, the players they're getting have to at least give them upside potential to improve their team going forward... neither Marbury nor Francis gives them that.

agreed. but I don't think we can give up on curry after one year. granted, it's a year of regressed play- but I think there is a bigger adjustment to playing in nyc that he might still be trying to get over.

next year, if he doesn't have it- move him.


i'm willing to give Curry another year to show if he can turn things around, but if we can get a 1st rounder along w/the cap relief in the deal, i think i'd rather go that route & take the chance that Lebron or D Wade will be available if we have the cap space to make a strong offer... those types of players don't come around everyday... i would take extreme steps to obtain them at this point because we're not getting a top lottery pick in this year's draft... since the talent pool is projected to be deep, the added pick from Philly could net us a very talented player to take Curry's place, or Isiah can maybe parlay that pick along w/Chicago's post swap pick to move up & grab a better player

besides, if CWebb's knees force him onto the IR or retirement, the team will probably end up w/a top lottery pick in the '08 draft... that could very well influence 1 of the marquee free agents' decisions to NY's favor as well.

don't take this too seriously now, but can you imagine a roster like this in 2 years? i'll take a huge flyer on something like this rather than staying the course w/what we have now & waiting for Curry & Crawford to mature into the players we hope they'll become:

C - lottery pick or marquee free agent / Frye
PF - Lee / lottery pick or MLE free agent
SF - Lebron / Balkman
SG - Q Rich / Jefferies
PG - Nate / Collins
After 7 years & 40K+ posts, banned by martin for calling Nalod a 'moron'. Awesome.
Ira
Posts: 24693
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 8/14/2001
Member: #91
11/17/2006  2:00 PM
Posted by Elite:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2665203

Webber meets with 76ers president over reduced role




Webber is averaging 10.3 points on 37 percent shooting in 30.6 minutes, well off his 14-year career averages of 21.5 points on 48 percent shooting in 37.9 minutes.

"I'm not going to keep playing like this," Webber told the Sacramento Bee after scoring six points Wednesday night in Seattle. "I don't like this role."

He's not playing well and he's unhappy about not playing more minutes when he's not playing well. This would be a disaster. If they'll take longer contracts of other players we don't want to keep - say Francis and James - we can make the trade and buy him out. But having him play on this team would be a disaster.

mattshaw78
Posts: 20908
Alba Posts: 52
Joined: 6/23/2005
Member: #915
11/17/2006  2:04 PM
Please....I hope we don't get him. I always thought him as over-rated. Do we really need another jumpshot big man. We already have Frye....
BlueSeats "I like anyone who can make Lebron cry. Melo seems to do it a lot."
oohah
Posts: 26600
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 4/7/2005
Member: #887
11/17/2006  2:09 PM
Posted by martin:
Posted by oohah:

Anybody who wants here Webber should immediately stop complaining about defense.

oohah

folks want Webber here for his expiring contract not his defensive prowess. Let's move along from that idea.

So you want him here for his contract? Great. Then don't complain when he plays absolutely no defense.

oohah

Good luck Mike D'Antoni, 'cause you ain't never seen nothing like this before!
oohah
Posts: 26600
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 4/7/2005
Member: #887
11/17/2006  2:11 PM
Posted by fishmike:
Posted by oohah:

Anybody who wants here Webber should immediately stop complaining about defense.

oohah
he's better than Frye there. He's a better rebounder also. Webber at PF and Frye at C is 10x better defensivly and rebounding wise as Frye/Curry at PF/C

Better rebounder? Yes. Better defensive player? Absolutely, as long as you are referring to his Kings career. Or you haven't watched him in Philly I guess.

oohah



[Edited by - oohah on 17-11-2006 2:12 PM]
Good luck Mike D'Antoni, 'cause you ain't never seen nothing like this before!
Nalod
Posts: 72379
Alba Posts: 155
Joined: 12/24/2003
Member: #508
USA
11/17/2006  2:12 PM
SugarRayRichardson
Posts: 21557
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 8/28/2006
Member: #1169

11/17/2006  2:30 PM
Posted by oohah:
Posted by martin:
Posted by oohah:

Anybody who wants here Webber should immediately stop complaining about defense.

oohah

folks want Webber here for his expiring contract not his defensive prowess. Let's move along from that idea.

So you want him here for his contract? Great. Then don't complain when he plays absolutely no defense.

oohah

He doesnt have to play at all. we could cut him and still be 1 huge step closer to being under the cap in 2008. We would be a francis trade away from that miracle.
I LOVED how Curry just exploded in the 4th, speaking as a fan of the Raptors, Curry looked well, scary I think is the word. Or Shaq-like Curry: 19.1ppg-7.3rpg-58%fg
Elite
Posts: 26372
Alba Posts: 23
Joined: 12/30/2003
Member: #510

11/17/2006  2:30 PM
LMFAO
Webber wants to be traded(Artical)

©2001-2025 ultimateknicks.comm All rights reserved. About Us.
This site is not affiliated with the NY Knicks or the National Basketball Association in any way.
You may visit the official NY Knicks web site by clicking here.

All times (GMT-05:00) Eastern Time.

Terms of Use and Privacy Policy