Posted by tomverve:

Point taken with your comparison, but you're probably pressing the point too eagerly to try to stick it to the LB "haters." I don't recall anyone criticizing LB 4 games into last season, and that's where the parallels between then and now fail. Not to say that I agree with it all, but the LB critiques snowballed from the persistent patterns he exhibited, extending over weeks and months, of badmouthing players through the press and having bizarre substitution patterns (eg, benching a guy after he'd been playing really well, as opposed to benching a guy playing like complete crap). Just about everyone was enthusiastic about him to start. In that respect, LB's Knicks received a lot more slack than Isiah's Knicks have early in the season.

Posted by oohah:

badda bing

Is it a coincidence that Marbury and Frye were the most outspoken against Brown and struggle now?

Karma is a b!tch.

But seriously, I think that kind of talk puts undue pressure on oneself to perform, and they're not handling the pressure well.

If Karma was a bitch, LB would be scrubbing toilets. And not because of the Knicks. I don't have time to recite his career of skullduggery and backstabbing, but it is breath-taking in its breadth.

Posted by islesfan:

How is Frye doing this year?

Posted by islesfan:

How is Frye doing this year?

Posted by djsunyc:

Posted by islesfan:

How is Frye doing this year?

prior to tonight's game:

9 games, 22 mins, 5.4 pts, 5.0 rebs, 29 fg%, 75 ft% (3-4 ft's), 0.9 blocks

tonight's stats:

25 mins, 10 pts (5-7), 5 rebs, 0 ft's, 0 blocks

Posted by djsunyc:

he's morphing into this guy right before our eyes...

Sigh...now what is your assessment of how he played tonight?

oohah

Posted by oohah:

Posted by islesfan:

Quite obviously another game where he didn't match his numbers from last year.

The numbers that he was supposed to automatically match.

I already admitted that I was mistaken about him starting out playing strong. You win. Now watch him get better than he was last year.

oohah

but any rookie worth a damn gets better their second year. they are no longer "wet behind the ears" and know more about the league as well as it's players. they are just more comfortable. the key is seeing development in his game. will he expand his game and add new things or will he just be content working on one aspect of it. bottom line, will be be happy taking jumpers or will he try to get down low and post up? will he put the ball on the floor?

[Edited by - djsunyc on 11-18-2006 12:59 AM]

Posted by oohah:

he played well tonight. he played well vs. the wizards. he was getting abused by jamison at the start. but when he moved over to center, he played better defensively. miami has an old school type PF with haslem but tonight was hard to judge b/c they blitzed the team out of the water. the guy looks awful comfortable hanging out on the perimeter instead of banging down low. and imho, i feel it would be better for us if he played more in the post. we'll see if he's still out by 3 in january and february.

He started playing better when he moved to center? When was he guarding Thomas or Haywood?

Yeah, he is comfortable on the perimeter. That is where the coach is playing him. That is where the coach played him last year. I have no doubt that if his coach said: "Play the low block!", that is where he would play. He cannot decide he wants to be the post player, he has to be played there. You cannot have both Curry and Frye on the low post at the same time.

oohah

i remember him posting up way more last year. but that could be b/c he was in the 2nd unit. you're right, they both can't be in the low block but we're not even getting curry the ball in the low block now.

and frye + curry hardly play together in the 2nd half of games. it's also rare to see frye out there in 4th quarters.