Posted by oohah:

Here is what I am saying, when you have 12/10 in the first half, it is not unreasonable for him to produce another 10-13 points and get another 6 rebounds over the next half of the game, which is 15 minutes longer than the first half. Please don't get married to the 25/18 number, my point is his production fell off dramatically. You don't have to take my word for it, look at the play-by-play.

Sure that happens to many players, but this is Eddies MO, and it is what holds him back from being the star we all hope he will be.

Certainly he will have games where he has great halves, then not so great halves. I hope to see more of him playing about as well in both halves. Is that nuts?

Maybe the guards had a hand in it. What I saw was him losing his aggressiveness. He did not rack up the points and rebounds from the post in the first half he did it hustling and running the floor. Like I wrote before, I would rather see him foul out playing aggressive, than being timid and watching him disappear. Is that nuts?

no, it's not nuts... i think everyone would LIKE to see that from Curry... but it's not realistic to expect, which in effect is what you are doing on this thread... you were expressing some disappointment in his 2nd half performance because of the torrid 1st half he had instead of looking at the game he played as a whole... that's unfairly lofty standards to hold any player to... his effort level did not drop off as precipitously as you are making it seem... the offense simply stopped going through him & he was getting called for very ticky tack fouls from the refs... i don't understand how you expect him to maintain his aggressive play when he's not getting the ball & the refs are calling fouls on him everytime he makes contact w/an opposing player.

no, it's not nuts... i think everyone would LIKE to see that from Curry... but it's not realistic to expect, which in effect is what you are doing on this thread... you were expressing some disappointment in his 2nd half performance because of the torrid 1st half he had instead of looking at the game he played as a whole... that's unfairly lofty standards to hold any player to... his effort level did not drop off as precipitously as you are making it seem... the offense simply stopped going through him & he was getting called for very ticky tack fouls from the refs... i don't understand how you expect him to maintain his aggressive play when he's not getting the ball & the refs are calling fouls on him everytime he makes contact w/an opposing player.

That is the exact opposite of what I am doing. You are looking at his first half and saying: "good game!" I am saying "good game, should have been a great game". Or: "Great half game!".

The game as a whole was a tale of two halves. The second half for Curry was mediocre at best. That is looking at the game as a whole.

I am not questioning his effort, but his aggressiveness. We can blame everybody else, or we can ask why he doesn't crash the boards and get his rebounds and buckets instead of waiting to be fed again and again, and frankly I would prefer that he gets his offense more from scrapping rather than being a featured post player. Crashing and scrapping, that is how I expect him to maintain his aggressiveness.

I think you think that I am unhappy with his performance. To the contrary, I am very happy with it, but when he disappears, it is not wrong to say so.

Even Q made a bad play last night (He did not start out good, letting Miller bang 3 3's without getting up on him and putting a hand in his face.), but since he maintained his level of play throughout the game, there isn't much to point out.

Is your point that since Curry had a good game it is unfair to say anything that is not an accolade?

oohah

watching JJ, he is really good ont he defensive side of the ball and would have shut down mike miller before he got going.

He clogs the lane and helps effectively and with his long arms does a good job within our team concept.

One eddy curry foul wasn't even a foul, it was a straight up flop and the replay confirmed it.

I think isiah wanted to get curry out of the refs cross hairs after that phantom call and that kind of what happened.

Also, memphis did change their defense and start to put bodies on Curry and doubled occassionally, so that contributed, but the refs contributed the most to curry's lack of offensive production.

I felt he did enough of the other things like challenging shots (sometimes a goal tending is good) and staying in front of his man (he got a couple of blocks in the second half I think as well).

So, he went away from stats and worked more on the other parts of the game and that's a positive step forward.

Very good game until the fake calls and they battled through that as well.

I liked all the "slow the game down to appear to play defense" jabs at the memphis coach (fratello?) before the game.

LB and He are the kings of "my team can't play defense, so let's limit the number of possessions" and it is the style of play from a bygone era.

go knicks.

Posted by oohah:
Is your point that since Curry had a good game it is unfair to say anything that is not an accolade?

i think it's pretty clear what my point is here... i've gone over it all already in my previous posts... u can complain about Curry's performance if you like... i don't happen to agree w/ur half to half line of thinking here.

I've been down on Curry and I think he played great last nite. Theres no way he should not have played great last night because the Grizzlis have no starting frontline that can put a man on any center in the league with Gasol out. Even though Curry was supposed to play well, he did. I give him credit for that.

Posted by gunsnewing:

Posted by Nalod:

More than anyting, he rebounded well last nite.

Thats a big stat in my book!

Jason Kidd had 4 offensive and 6 defensive boards last nite!

I like when our center out rebounds guards!

Eddy did good last nite!

Curry was a monster on the boards lastnight. He takes up so much space inside. I know the competition was lame but still. And those 3 blocks!!! it'll be interesting to see how he does against tougher pyschical defenders

For the same reason people are downgrading Curry's performance (ie level of competition)... most nights Curry wont be facing guys as fast as Hakim Warrick, it goes both ways.

Why don't we leave it at this. Curry played great but did not meet Oooh aaaahs expectations in the 2nd half. I think that's a fair compromise.

i'll tell u what... once Curry establishes himself w/the refs & starts getting the calls his way, you'll start seeing him put up 20 & 9 on much more regular basis... those calls where he gets the Offensive fouls called on him will turn into blocking fouls, & he'll be sent to the line, where he's a very decent foul shooter for a big man.