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Ty Thomas showed be more last night than Curry in his entire career
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nyk4ever
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11/1/2006  12:23 PM
I was always high on Ty Thomas, which is why I was pissed the Knicks had to give up their draft pick. I'm rooting for Curry and I hope he plays really well, but the fact of the matter is that the guy has shown me nothing in his time in the NBA. He doesn't play defense, he doesn't rebound consistently, he can't stay in shape.

Like it or not, Curry is going to be compared to guys like Tyrus Thomas because of the fact that our great GM traded the pick that was used to select Tyrus Thomas. Tyrus has a never ending motor, plays excellent defense, rebounds the ball, blocks shots and has an offensive game that you saw develop throughout last year if you watched college ball. I'll take a guy that gives it his all over a guy that trys when he deems it's time to try.
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11/1/2006  12:31 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:

I was always high on Ty Thomas, which is why I was pissed the Knicks had to give up their draft pick. I'm rooting for Curry and I hope he plays really well, but the fact of the matter is that the guy has shown me nothing in his time in the NBA. He doesn't play defense, he doesn't rebound consistently, he can't stay in shape.

Like it or not, Curry is going to be compared to guys like Tyrus Thomas because of the fact that our great GM traded the pick that was used to select Tyrus Thomas. Tyrus has a never ending motor, plays excellent defense, rebounds the ball, blocks shots and has an offensive game that you saw develop throughout last year if you watched college ball. I'll take a guy that gives it his all over a guy that trys when he deems it's time to try.



All that and he scored 4 more points than I did in 16 minutes in a blowout. HMMM LOL

[Edited by - SugarRayRichardson on 11-01-2006 12:31 PM]
I LOVED how Curry just exploded in the 4th, speaking as a fan of the Raptors, Curry looked well, scary I think is the word. Or Shaq-like Curry: 19.1ppg-7.3rpg-58%fg
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11/1/2006  12:31 PM
Here is the deal with Curry:

His teamates didn't like his approach to the game, they soured on his careless approach, he is not a selfless player that lays it on the line for his teamates, name me one player that supposed to lead to team that doesn't have the respect of his teamates, believe me the Bulls were happy to let him go......

Isiah takes chances on players that don't know how to win, or care about the games integrity which winning teams always do.

Night before a 1pm game, I see Curry out at 3 in the morning partying, Jamaal is always out on the town, as is big snacks and half of the team, which shows they don't take the game seriously. Your young we understand but its an indictment on your character if you getting ****ed up when you have to be at the garden in a sober state by 10pm.

You draft the right players, Lee and Frye were a great start, put you posion players by exposing them to the situation that isiah has created
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11/1/2006  12:33 PM
Posted by SugarRayRichardson:
Posted by nyk4ever:

I was always high on Ty Thomas, which is why I was pissed the Knicks had to give up their draft pick. I'm rooting for Curry and I hope he plays really well, but the fact of the matter is that the guy has shown me nothing in his time in the NBA. He doesn't play defense, he doesn't rebound consistently, he can't stay in shape.

Like it or not, Curry is going to be compared to guys like Tyrus Thomas because of the fact that our great GM traded the pick that was used to select Tyrus Thomas. Tyrus has a never ending motor, plays excellent defense, rebounds the ball, blocks shots and has an offensive game that you saw develop throughout last year if you watched college ball. I'll take a guy that gives it his all over a guy that trys when he deems it's time to try.



All that and he scored 4 more points than I did in 16 minutes in a blowout. HMMM LOL

[Edited by - SugarRayRichardson on 11-01-2006 12:31 PM]

Theres more to basketball than just scoring points.
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11/1/2006  1:39 PM
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But we are denying a major problem that has led to 7 years of mediocrity. As Nalod has coined, it's called the "starpuch". We grab players not because they fit into a plan but because they are the "best available". They excite all of us. They get us calling our team "Phoenix East" even if beneath the surface it doesn't really fit. That's exaclty what we did with the coach. We had a running team. LB is a disciplinarian that scripts every play. There were many on this site who screamed that this must mean we are gettting new players because this fit doesn't make sense. Now noone anticipated the season going as poorly as it did but the mismatch between coach's and players was obvious to all but those that like to blind themsleves for fear of not being a "true fan". YOu are correct LB is ancient history and he doesn't matter. But the decisions we continually make, do matter. If you sign LB you get him his type of players. He is not going to change his 30 year system so why would you expect it. If you want a running team you don't hire LB and then beg him to run. You go with a "less talented" coach that FITS YOUR SYSTEM AND YOUR PHILOSOPHY. This is basic team building 101.

This is just another in a line of mistakes by Isiah and he deserves to be called out for it. You can't make collossol mistakes like that and then expect to be given a pass. This is the real world. If you make a hire at your job that costs your company millions you are out on your asse. So I think it's fair to at least be able to criticize Isiah on this one. NO?

[Edited by - bippity10 on 11-01-2006 12:19 PM]

What you're saying all makes sense if we were built for running. Looking closely at our starters, I don't see running written across any of their foreheads. That's a team that will try out-scoring you, bottom line! Defense isn't a priority, so we call ourselves a running team. LMAO @ Isiah

Marbury- is a half court guy, always has been and he makes poor decisions in transition. half-court iso player
Francis- " " "
QRich- best years were posting in LALA land. Phx was deceiving, Nash is the f'ing man!
Frye- as much as I love his skills, he's a pick roll guy. not some bounding and transition guy
Curry- again, this guy is clearly better off in a half court offense. does not rebound well or blocks shots, you need at least one of those things in a run-n-gun offense.


We took a chance with Brown because of his ability teach and because he's won on literally every level man. You saw how he helped steer Iverson, maybe he could help Steph? (yeah right)

Look, I firmly believe Isiah has been AWFUL. He should be held accountable because things did not work with LB and he picked em'. The Curry trade was overboard, Marbury, Francis, Jalen.. Missed draft picks, I mean the list of questionable decisions goes on and on. But nobody could've predicted last years mess, no f'ing way. We tried the less-talented way (Chaney) and that didn't work either. You call it Starphucing or a different approach?

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11/1/2006  1:46 PM
No that's where you are wrong. We didn't try the Chaney way. We undermined him every step of the way. He wanted an uptempo team and instead we got him an old and slow, undersized team. Lenny Wilkens, we fired his coaches. LB, Isiah came out and said that he asked LB to run. It's been a systematic failure. We've hired good coaches, we've brought in good players but because of our finger pointing, find a scapegoat mentality we are too busy undermining our coach's to save jobs that we don't take the time to get them a team built in their vision. We are too busy "starphuching" with players to worry about how they fit. That is the problem I have been talking about for far too long on this board. We are so worried about the name and how talented people are that we don't worry about whether that person fits or not. I don't care if LB is the best available. You don't get him unless you are going to build a hard nosed, methodical, defensive team. It was a bad fit. No way we knew it would turn out as bad as it did, but that shouldn't matter. The record shouldn't matter. Too much is made about the difference between 23 wins and 36 wins. It all stinks. If you aren't going to build LB's team it's a bad fit.

I just hope that people will like me
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11/1/2006  2:23 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by SugarRayRichardson:
Posted by nyk4ever:

I was always high on Ty Thomas, which is why I was pissed the Knicks had to give up their draft pick. I'm rooting for Curry and I hope he plays really well, but the fact of the matter is that the guy has shown me nothing in his time in the NBA. He doesn't play defense, he doesn't rebound consistently, he can't stay in shape.

Like it or not, Curry is going to be compared to guys like Tyrus Thomas because of the fact that our great GM traded the pick that was used to select Tyrus Thomas. Tyrus has a never ending motor, plays excellent defense, rebounds the ball, blocks shots and has an offensive game that you saw develop throughout last year if you watched college ball. I'll take a guy that gives it his all over a guy that trys when he deems it's time to try.



All that and he scored 4 more points than I did in 16 minutes in a blowout. HMMM LOL

[Edited by - SugarRayRichardson on 11-01-2006 12:31 PM]

Theres more to basketball than just scoring points.

So If Balkman gets 4points and 5 rebs in 16 minutes will be be proclaimed all world or is that only good for other teams players?
I LOVED how Curry just exploded in the 4th, speaking as a fan of the Raptors, Curry looked well, scary I think is the word. Or Shaq-like Curry: 19.1ppg-7.3rpg-58%fg
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11/1/2006  2:36 PM
Posted by SugarRayRichardson:


So If Balkman gets 4points and 5 rebs in 16 minutes will be be proclaimed all world or is that only good for other teams players?

Wow, there is absolutely no gray area with you huh?

Do you watch college basketball? If you do than there is no way you can tell me that Tyrus Thomas did not look like a stud prospect last year. If you want to carry on with players like Balkman, who had minor college careers then go right ahead. Mark my words, Tyrus Thomas will be an absolute stud.

Just because I am pissed that we traded the pick that was used to choose Tyrus Thomas for a player who is the antithesis of Tyrus Thomas, doesn't mean you have to start bringing every name out of the woodwork. If you think Balkman is going to be a better player than Tyrus Thomas that's your own perogative.

I'll take Tyrus Thomas and this years draft pick back instead of having Eddy Curry any day of the freakin week.

[Edited by - nyk4ever on 11-01-2006 2:37 PM]
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11/1/2006  2:53 PM
opening nite jitters!
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11/1/2006  10:08 PM
Eddy Curry's showing me a whole lot in tonight's game, i'll tell u that much.
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11/1/2006  11:39 PM
Posted by Elite:

Re - Lax

I agree.
You know I gonna spin wit it
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11/1/2006  11:49 PM
What impressed me most about Curry tonight was the quickness and anticipation he displayed on some of his blocked shots.
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11/1/2006  11:57 PM
17pts-14 boards-3 blocks :)
I LOVED how Curry just exploded in the 4th, speaking as a fan of the Raptors, Curry looked well, scary I think is the word. Or Shaq-like Curry: 19.1ppg-7.3rpg-58%fg
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11/2/2006  12:10 AM
Curry was everything we dreamt of tonight. He is definitely not the problem!
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11/2/2006  12:12 AM
Chicago lost tonight to Orlando.

Just wanted everyone who jumped on the Bulls nutz after one game knew this.
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11/2/2006  12:18 AM
Posted by SugarRayRichardson:

17pts-14 boards-3 blocks :)

don't think Ty Thomas has shown that yet in his career.
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11/2/2006  12:35 AM
Posted by TMS:
Posted by SugarRayRichardson:

17pts-14 boards-3 blocks :)

don't think Ty Thomas has shown that yet in his career.



Hurry change the thread title until ty thomas scores 5 points with 6 boards. :)
I LOVED how Curry just exploded in the 4th, speaking as a fan of the Raptors, Curry looked well, scary I think is the word. Or Shaq-like Curry: 19.1ppg-7.3rpg-58%fg
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11/2/2006  12:39 AM
Curry is the key to this team. Based on his last couple of games (pre and tonight), he looks ready to step up this year. I'm excited to see how far he can raise his game.
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11/2/2006  12:46 AM
Great game from Curry! I'm happy to see the man might finally be taking things seriously. Honestly though, I'm not trying to take anything from Curry but honestly, how could he not have a good game tonite, the Grizzlies had Tskalidis starting and no Gasol. I understand, Curry still put up 17 and 14 but still, I would like to see it against better competition. None the less, great game from Curry!
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11/2/2006  12:50 AM
Posted by crzymdups:

Curry is the key to this team. Based on his last couple of games (pre and tonight), he looks ready to step up this year. I'm excited to see how far he can raise his game.


He's definitely the key. Mike Francessa knows nothing about the current state of the knicks and the nba but he made a good point. ..a successful season would be make the playoffs and Curry has to play well because we invested so much in him
Ty Thomas showed be more last night than Curry in his entire career

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