Posted by wsdm:

Posted by CrushAlot:

I think if you are worried that you would have no one to run the offense if Marbury left you are mistaken. First of all his presence on the team has negative implications on and off the court and on offense and defense. I think the Knicks could find a player able to play a role in running the offense that could help the team have more success. I often think that the Knicks might just be better if they waived him.

Two entirely separate issues: Claim 1) Marbury had no positive effect on the team last year. Response: I agree.
Claim 2) The Knicks' other gaurds can run an offense. Response: I'll believe it when I see it because none of them ever have at any level of play.

Posted by Masterplan:

Posted by wsdm:

Posted by CrushAlot:

I think if you are worried that you would have no one to run the offense if Marbury left you are mistaken. First of all his presence on the team has negative implications on and off the court and on offense and defense. I think the Knicks could find a player able to play a role in running the offense that could help the team have more success. I often think that the Knicks might just be better if they waived him.

Two entirely separate issues: Claim 1) Marbury had no positive effect on the team last year. Response: I agree.
Claim 2) The Knicks' other gaurds can run an offense. Response: I'll believe it when I see it because none of them ever have at any level of play.

good points- but what about francis running a team? you think he hasn't done nearly as well as marbury (elsewhere, clearly not as a Knick)? it's definitely arguable either way.

[Edited by - Masterplan on 10-10-2006 8:31 PM]

Posted by franco12:

Posted by Swishfm3:

Posted by SugarRayRichardson:

Why would Jerry West give up an expirirng to take one of the most overpaid players in the NBA who also brings a ton fo baggage with him? I'd do that trade tomorrow. I just dont think a hoops genius like west would do it.

off topic
why is West considered a "Hoops Genius"? Because he traded for Kobe?

On Topic

I agree that a trade like this is possible, I wouldn't do it. The bashers hate to admit it but Marbury IS a point guard. The fact that you guys actually believe that Crawford is capable of running the point full time just shows me that ya know little about this team or basketball.

Marbury might be a point guard- but I think Crawford is more likeable and makes the game fun.

Marbury is a downer.

When marbury got here, I was happy that we finally had a pg that could actually hit a lay up.

he's overstayed his welcome, if he could be gotten rid of, do it.

Posted by wsdm:

Posted by Masterplan:

Posted by wsdm:

Posted by CrushAlot:

I think if you are worried that you would have no one to run the offense if Marbury left you are mistaken. First of all his presence on the team has negative implications on and off the court and on offense and defense. I think the Knicks could find a player able to play a role in running the offense that could help the team have more success. I often think that the Knicks might just be better if they waived him.

Two entirely separate issues: Claim 1) Marbury had no positive effect on the team last year. Response: I agree.
Claim 2) The Knicks' other gaurds can run an offense. Response: I'll believe it when I see it because none of them ever have at any level of play.

good points- but what about francis running a team? you think he hasn't done nearly as well as marbury (elsewhere, clearly not as a Knick)? it's definitely arguable either way.

[Edited by - Masterplan on 10-10-2006 8:31 PM]

Look at their passing abilities. It's not even close. Marbury just doesn't have his head on straight but he can set up teammates very well. He clicked great (on the court at least) with Keith, Allan, Kurt Thomas. Steve hasn't clicked great with anyone.

Stevie and Mobley are brokeback backcourt buddies. They clicked.

Posted by TheSage:

I have been saying for two years that Marbury should go-he has all the physical ability in the world but a mind and disposition to be the leader of a street gang not a professional ?????? basketball team. Guess he fits in with the coach and management of the knicks. Seriously, I think we should get an expiring overpaid player and give Francis a shot to see if he can fit the bill

Posted by SugarRayRichardson:

Posted by Swishfm3:

Posted by SugarRayRichardson:

Posted by Swishfm3:

Posted by SugarRayRichardson:

Why would Jerry West give up an expirirng to take one of the most overpaid players in the NBA who also brings a ton fo baggage with him? I'd do that trade tomorrow. I just dont think a hoops genius like west would do it.

off topic
why is West considered a "Hoops Genius"? Because he traded for Kobe?

On Topic
I agree that a trade like this is possible, I wouldn't do it. The bashers hate to admit it but Marbury IS a point guard. The fact that you guys actually believe that Crawford is capable of running the point full time just shows me that ya know little about this team or basketball.

Made a great trade with the Cavs in order to draft James Worthy #1
Traded for Kobe
Traded/signed Shaq
Turned around a Lakers team that had been floundering. Well acknowledged even as a player for a very high basketball intelligence.
Took over the Griz when they were the worst team in basketball and turned them around in 2 years
Many think the Battier for Gay trade was a good one.

I dont give him credit for Kobe because Kobe was pulling a Francis out in Charlotte.

and I DON'T give him credit for Shaq because LA was the only place Shaq was going to anyway.

~Finestrg
Good post

Well his reputation is well earned. Kobe wasnt Kobe when he was drafted. He went to the Hornots with the 14th pick I believe. Divacs for the 14th pick was a fair trade at the time. That Kobe trade was arragned draft night I believe and Shaq may not have signed with LA if not for West. Shaq respected West tremendously. I also didnt even mention the frank Brickowski for Micheal Thompson trade that probably won the Lakers a championship for his ability to guard Kevin Mchale.

Posted by MS:

Actually Marcus Williams, ohh wait....Balkman should be able to distribute the ball.....