Posted by Bippity10:
If Marbs had a hand in helping Gugs become an all-star does that mean he has had a hand in helping most of his teams to losing seasons?
40-42 was a lot better than the TWolves team had ever done. Before Steph 26-56 no All Stars and No Playoffs. With Steph, KG and Gugs improve and become All Stars and make the playoffs. Can you at least give Steph a little credit for that dramatic turnaround? In the Playoffs they lost 3-0 against Houston and the next year they won 45game and they lost 3-2 to Seattle in the playoffs.
If you get credit for the good you have to accept heat for the bad. I just find it funny how you want to give him credit for going from 26-56 to 40-42. That's fair. So why is it unfair when people get on him for going to teams and seeing the record do the opposite? I have no problem with you giving him credit for this. He must have helped them. But it's a little unrealistic to give him credit when his teams do well and then blame his teammates or lack of teammates when things go badly. Am I being unfair? I dont' know. Tell me.
That's a good point. Sure Steph has had his part to play in the team not playing well on D, but on offense, he isn't a detriment to the team playing well. I just wanted to add that Steph isn't the only player that you could say the same things about. My answer is that i've done some research and found that in most cases he lacked the help that a team needs from OTHER players to make a team a winner. He didn't win the games by himself, I said he Helped them to win more games. The other players STILL HAD TO CONTRIBUTE to the team winning.
Do you suppose that he somehow just forgot how to play from one season to the next? His play has been fairly consistent, whereas the players around him haven't always been. Was it Steph's fault that Shandon couldn't hit a shot and often ran from taking shots? How about when TT was stinking it up or QRich? We didn't have any real production from the SF position last year. How about H2O being unable to get healthy? See Steph can set up players but its up to them after that.
When KVH, KT and Doleac were hitting their shots off Steph passes, things went well. The same thing happened during the Streak when Steph played his game and was breaking down the D and setting up is teammates. When they converted the team did well. I expect nothing less this year. I believe these players will do thheir job and I'm completely confident that Steph will do his.
[Edited by - nixluva on 10-05-2006 08:08 AM]