You lay this out like it's common knowledge, but it reads like inside info to me. In truth it's pure conjecture.
And what is contradictory? The most logical reason that Jalen came when he did is the trade deadline the year prior to an expring contract actually expiring is the best economic time to make the trade. That way you pay the least for it. One could argue that the summer is really the pinnacle, but you'd need to be under the cap or have a trade exception to offer for that to work. neither applies to us.
years prior isiah was trying to swing Donyell Marshall and others in the deal, which probably would have meant saddling with one of our not so good contracts. This may have been the first year Isiah was willing to trade straight up for Jalen and a pick.
These are merely reporter's accounts I am referring to, so I can't say it was true or not, but Rose's names came up in many trade rumors in the past few years, most notably in conjunction with Vince Carter. and he has been pegged as the sticking point to most of these trades going through.
Just what I have read, that's all.
I'm not trying to lay it solely at isiah's feet, I'm explaining how the two of them could have come up with this together, and I'm explaining how after the fact the both of them could have wanted them gone. I just see them each having different motives for the same deal. I think the one motive they did share is that if they don't work out they can be bait, and if they do work out they just might help plug the hole we had while Marbury was out. short term planning just might be the intersection between Brown, Isiah and Dolan.
Unfortunately some wont want to buy that because it would fly in the face of their contention that Brown wanted to lose.
I really don't see the basis for your argument. You know Isiah promised larry 'his" players, and you know brown had his eyes set on players who were rumored to be included in the Francis trade. Isiah even told us he was pursuing them. Clearly he came up short in the totality of the package Brown was after, and i wouldn't be surprised if that was why Brown went fishing for himself.
I think Larry would have been tickled for francis to succeed, so as to displace marbury. Whether or not that would have been enough for isiah to give up on steph we'll never know - I suspect not. Regardless, an inside report stated that Francis was only showing up to practice like twice a week, and drunk at that. Chances are he was doing the same in Orlando. It's not surprising that they had a radically losing record with him and a radically winning one without. Nobody can make that work. But if brown had gotten the rest of the package he wanted at least he'd have those other components to work with. Instead all he got was the drunk.
You say my arguments don't make sense but in fact they're the only ones that do.
I don't know about that drunk sh!t but it's funny as hell!
In any case, what makes sense is that the only thing that LB has publicly agreed on with IT and Dolan is that he asked for Francis especially, and Rose as well. Brown said it publicly into a microphone, as did IT and Dolan. They all said the same thing: Brown asked for Francis especially, and Rose.
I think I will have to believe what they all said publicly. Maybe Brown wanted other players, but that is speculation isn't it? Why not just go with what he said? Brown stating he wanted those guys, and Dolan and IT confirming it months later is not speculation, that is corroboration.
As to what Brown's intentions were with those guys, we can only speculate further, but the evidence says he did not want to play them, doesn't it?
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WHEN DOES THE PRE-SEASON SCHEDULE START?!?!?
oohah
[Edited by - oohah on 01-10-2006 9:23 PM]
