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fishmike
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9/29/2006  8:37 AM
dumbest thread ever... shame on me for contributing
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9/29/2006  9:12 AM
Posted by wsdm:
Posted by Solace:
Posted by oohah:
Posted by fishmike:

guy plays hard, guy can score.

His rebounding is average and his defense is well below that. I'm not saying it cant or wont get better. When you said all star did you mean rookie vs. sophmore game?



I'm sorry you did not give a good read to my statement. His Rebounding and D were above average FOR A ROOKIE. If you can show me that it was not please do so!

oohah




[Edited by - oohah on 28-09-2006 10:17 AM]

Above average for a rookie in defense and rebounding? Efficiency-wise he's not, when it comes to rebounding, unless you're comparing him against guards, which would be ridiculous. His defense is above-average for a rookie? I see no evidence of that, either. Maybe his defense is above-average against undrafted players who were rookies and failed to last three years in the league.

Ahh, the spinning....
My guess is that 1 rb every 4 min is about average among forwards. Why insult him by calling his statements spin? Why not just say you disagree with him?

I didn't say he's not average. I said he's not above average.
Posted by oohah:
Posted by Solace:
Posted by oohah:
Posted by fishmike:

guy plays hard, guy can score.

His rebounding is average and his defense is well below that. I'm not saying it cant or wont get better. When you said all star did you mean rookie vs. sophmore game?



I'm sorry you did not give a good read to my statement. His Rebounding and D were above average FOR A ROOKIE. If you can show me that it was not please do so!

oohah




[Edited by - oohah on 28-09-2006 10:17 AM]

Above average for a rookie in defense and rebounding? Efficiency-wise he's not, when it comes to rebounding, unless you're comparing him against guards, which would be ridiculous. His defense is above-average for a rookie? I see no evidence of that, either. Maybe his defense is above-average against undrafted players who were rookies and failed to last three years in the league.

Ahh, the spinning....



I would say his defense was average for a rookie. Defense is where most rookies take their lumps, even King James. However, Frye did show that he has some nice shot blocking ability.

As I pointed out, Frye averaged more rebounds than the league average (5.8 vs. 4.8) for a forward, so where is the spin? Please illustrate for me.

Just the facts Solace!

oohah

Great. Now compare him against power forwards. He is a power forward, isn't he? Duhhhrrr...
dumbest thread ever... shame on me for contributing

My sentiments exactly.

[Edited by - Solace on 09-29-2006 2:37 PM]
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9/29/2006  9:18 AM
Posted by fishmike:

so we have established "threatening" means little to nothing. Anyway they real concern is why oohah is so preoccupied with my ass or anyone elses around here.

You beat me to it fish. This whole thing is idiotic. I love how he claims to really be manning up with a statement that is by his own definition complete milque-toast.

It is oohah's opinion that Frye is going to have a pretty good season. Incredible news!!

Why are we wasting electrons on this?
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9/29/2006  9:54 AM
Posted by fishmike:

I'm "threatening" to have a 3-some with Jessica Alba.

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahha

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9/29/2006  1:33 PM
Posted by Solace:
Posted by wsdm:
Posted by Solace:
Posted by oohah:
Posted by fishmike:

guy plays hard, guy can score.

His rebounding is average and his defense is well below that. I'm not saying it cant or wont get better. When you said all star did you mean rookie vs. sophmore game?



I'm sorry you did not give a good read to my statement. His Rebounding and D were above average FOR A ROOKIE. If you can show me that it was not please do so!

oohah




[Edited by - oohah on 28-09-2006 10:17 AM]

Above average for a rookie in defense and rebounding? Efficiency-wise he's not, when it comes to rebounding, unless you're comparing him against guards, which would be ridiculous. His defense is above-average for a rookie? I see no evidence of that, either. Maybe his defense is above-average against undrafted players who were rookies and failed to last three years in the league.

Ahh, the spinning....
My guess is that 1 rb every 4 min is about average among forwards. Why insult him by calling his statements spin? Why not just say you disagree with him?

I didn't say he's not average. I said he's not above average.
quote:Originally posted by Solace:

quote:Originally posted by oohah:

quote:Originally posted by fishmike:

guy plays hard, guy can score.

His rebounding is average and his defense is well below that. I'm not saying it cant or wont get better. When you said all star did you mean rookie vs. sophmore game?

I'm sorry you did not give a good read to my statement. His Rebounding and D were above average FOR A ROOKIE. If you can show me that it was not please do so!

oohah


[Edited by - oohah on 28-09-2006 10:17 AM]

Above average for a rookie in defense and rebounding? Efficiency-wise he's not, when it comes to rebounding, unless you're comparing him against guards, which would be ridiculous. His defense is above-average for a rookie? I see no evidence of that, either. Maybe his defense is above-average against undrafted players who were rookies and failed to last three years in the league.

Ahh, the spinning....

I would say his defense was average for a rookie. Defense is where most rookies take their lumps, even King James. However, Frye did show that he has some nice shot blocking ability.

As I pointed out, Frye averaged more rebounds than the league average (5.8 vs. 4.8) for a forward, so where is the spin? Please illustrate for me.

Just the facts Solace!

oohah

Great. Now compare him against power forwards. He is a power forward, isn't he? Duhhhrrr...
dumbest thread ever... shame on me for contributing [/quote]

My sentiments exactly.
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I think you got the quotes wrong. I can't figure out what you're saying

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Oohah is THREATENING to make my ignore list.
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9/29/2006  2:35 PM
Oops, the format of my post got completely screwed up. Lemme fix. Sorry guys.
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9/29/2006  5:22 PM
Great. Now compare him against power forwards. He is a power forward, isn't he? Duhhhrrr...

Solace, I've got an idea! Do some research instead of just agreeing with other guys who don't research either.

I cannot find the rebounds per minute averages sorted by pf, but below you will find a list of all the power forwards last year sorted by RPG, and you will see that Frye ranks 29th out of 86 power forwards, well above the median.

In short, YOU ARE WRONG. Frye is at worst an average rebounder, and I don't think that is bad for a rookie, especially a skinny dude like him going against guys much more solid than he.

Maybe you can come up with some other qualifications to prove me wrong? Perhaps he is a poor rebounder on alternate sundays vs. left handers?

AH-Duhrrrr....


2. Kevin Garnett, MIN 	94.72	94.72	+0.00	76	38.9	21.8	12.7	4.1	52.6	81.0
9. Dwight Howard, ORL 	83.36	83.07	+0.29	82	36.8	15.8	12.5	1.5	53.1	59.5
7. Tim Duncan, SA 	85.81	85.75	+0.06	80	34.8	18.6	11.0	3.2	48.4	62.9
53. Emeka Okafor, CHA 	33.69	34.69	-1.00	26	33.6	13.2	10.0	1.2	41.5	65.6
15. Troy Murphy, GS 	75.23	74.84	+0.39	74	34.0	14.0	10.0	1.4	43.3	78.7
1. Elton Brand, LAC 	95.81	96.00	-0.19	79	39.2	24.7	10.0	2.6	52.7	77.5
6. Chris Webber, PHI 	87.14	87.14	+0.00	75	38.6	20.2	9.9	3.4	43.4	75.6
5. Antawn Jamison, WAS 	87.44	86.80	+0.64	82	40.1	20.5	9.3	1.9	44.2	73.1
8. Chris Bosh, TOR 	84.19	84.69	-0.50	70	39.3	22.5	9.2	2.6	50.5	81.6
10. Mehmet Okur, UTA 	82.76	82.31	+0.45	82	35.9	18.0	9.1	2.4	46.0	78.0
3. Dirk Nowitzki, DAL 	94.60	94.60	+0.00	81	38.1	26.6	9.0	2.8	48.0	90.1
4. Pau Gasol, MEM 	89.83	89.83	+0.00	80	39.2	20.4	8.9	4.6	50.3	68.9
45. Carlos Boozer, UTA 	42.64	42.11	+0.53	33	31.1	16.3	8.6	2.7	54.9	72.3
18. Drew Gooden, CLE 	69.16	68.99	+0.17	79	27.5	10.7	8.4	0.7	51.2	68.2
13. Zach Randolph, POR 	76.97	76.97	+0.00	74	34.4	18.0	8.0	1.9	43.6	71.4
18. Zaza Pachulia, ATL 	69.16	68.39	+0.77	78	31.4	11.7	7.9	1.7	45.1	73.5
20. Udonis Haslem, MIA 	68.88	68.75	+0.13	81	30.8	9.3	7.8	1.2	50.8	78.9
34. Reggie Evans, DEN 	49.59	48.79	+0.80	67	20.8	5.6	7.5	0.6	48.9	53.0
22. Kenny Thomas, SAC 	67.46	66.79	+0.67	82	28.0	9.1	7.5	2.0	50.5	67.6
12. David West, NO 	78.41	78.41	+0.00	74	34.1	17.1	7.4	1.2	51.2	84.3
21. Andrew Bogut, MIL (Rookie)	68.29	67.62	+0.67	82	28.6	9.4	7.0	2.3	53.3	62.9
11. Boris Diaw, PHO 	81.46	81.36	+0.10	81	35.5	13.3	6.9	6.2	52.6	73.1
14. Rasheed Wallace, DET 	76.80	76.89	-0.09	80	34.8	15.1	6.8	2.3	43.0	74.3
17. Juwan Howard, HOU 	69.17	68.48	+0.69	80	31.7	11.8	6.7	1.4	45.9	80.6
16. Charlie Villanueva, TOR (Rookie)	70.63	69.75	+0.88	81	29.1	13.0	6.4	1.1	46.3	70.6
31. Kenyon Martin, DEN 	51.11	51.57	-0.46	56	27.6	12.9	6.3	1.4	49.5	71.2
24. Donyell Marshall, CLE 	63.61	62.97	+0.64	81	25.6	9.3	6.1	0.7	39.5	74.8
30. Channing Frye, NY (Rookie)	56.09	59.14	-3.05	65	24.2	12.3	5.8	0.8	47.7	82.5
35. Michael Sweetney, CHI 	49.11	48.94	+0.17	66	18.5	8.1	5.3	0.9	45.0	65.2
27. Antonio McDyess, DET 	59.65	59.18	+0.47	82	21.1	7.8	5.3	1.1	50.9	55.7
48. Austin Croshere, IND 	38.99	39.09	-0.10	50	23.0	8.2	5.3	1.2	46.3	88.2
55. Joe Smith, MIL 	31.62	32.31	-0.69	44	20.2	8.6	5.2	0.7	47.5	77.4
44. Al Jefferson, BOS 	42.77	43.57	-0.80	59	18.0	7.9	5.1	0.5	49.9	64.2
38. Eduardo Najera, DEN 	47.01	47.22	-0.21	64	22.6	5.4	5.1	0.8	42.2	78.1
23. Antoine Walker, MIA 	66.62	66.19	+0.43	82	26.8	12.2	5.1	2.0	43.5	62.8
26. Raef LaFrentz, BOS 	62.01	61.50	+0.51	82	24.8	7.8	5.0	1.4	43.1	68.0
62. Anderson Varejao, CLE 	27.28	25.46	+1.82	48	15.8	4.6	4.9	0.4	52.7	51.3
42. Melvin Ely, CHA 	44.03	43.14	+0.89	57	23.6	9.8	4.9	1.3	50.8	66.7
33. Jason Collins, NJ 	49.92	49.75	+0.17	71	26.7	3.6	4.8	1.0	39.7	51.2
70. Sean May, CHA (Rookie)	12.57	13.57	-1.00	23	17.3	8.2	4.7	1.0	40.9	76.6
25. Vladimir Radmanovic, LAC 	63.42	63.42	+0.00	77	25.6	9.8	4.6	1.8	40.7	81.6
37. David Lee, NY (Rookie)	47.66	47.16	+0.50	67	16.9	5.1	4.5	0.6	59.6	57.7
32. Stromile Swift, HOU 	50.63	49.98	+0.65	66	20.4	8.9	4.4	0.4	49.1	65.1
39. Etan Thomas, WAS 	46.89	47.39	-0.50	71	15.8	4.7	3.9	0.2	53.3	60.0
60. Aaron Williams, NO 	27.52	28.52	-1.00	48	16.5	4.6	3.8	0.4	51.7	69.0
46. Robert Horry, SA 	41.76	41.28	+0.48	63	18.8	5.1	3.8	1.3	38.4	64.7
43. Michael Ruffin, WAS 	43.79	43.07	+0.72	76	13.3	1.4	3.6	0.4	44.2	50.0
50. Keith Van Horn, DAL 	37.38	38.38	-1.00	53	20.6	8.9	3.6	0.7	42.4	83.2
36. Malik Rose, NY 	47.67	46.99	+0.68	72	15.5	4.4	3.6	0.9	37.4	78.1
28. Brian Cook, LAL 	58.63	58.19	+0.44	81	19.0	7.9	3.4	0.9	51.1	83.2
41. Maurice Taylor, NY 	45.58	44.82	+0.76	67	18.1	6.3	3.4	0.8	46.8	69.9
76. Danny Fortson, SEA 	3.87	4.87	-1.00	23	12.0	3.8	3.4	0.1	52.9	76.7
51. James Singleton, LAC (Rookie)	36.61	34.86	+1.75	59	12.8	3.4	3.3	0.5	51.0	78.0
29. Clifford Robinson, NJ 	57.65	57.05	+0.60	80	23.3	6.9	3.3	1.1	42.7	65.8
68. Lonny Baxter, CHA 	14.81	14.39	+0.42	41	9.8	2.9	2.9	0.1	43.3	80.0
40. Travis Outlaw, POR 	46.65	45.08	+1.57	69	16.7	5.8	2.7	0.5	44.0	69.7
57. Darko Milicic, ORL 	30.25	30.30	-0.05	55	13.9	4.8	2.7	0.7	50.9	56.0
52. Scott Padgett, NJ 	34.46	33.77	+0.69	62	11.6	3.4	2.7	0.7	35.3	79.4
80. Brian Grant, PHO 	1.10	-1.14	+2.24	21	11.8	2.9	2.7	0.3	41.5	87.5
64. Alan Henderson, CLE 	22.98	23.04	-0.06	51	10.4	2.5	2.7	0.2	51.6	67.3
56. Malik Allen, CHI 	31.11	30.00	+1.11	54	13.0	4.9	2.6	0.4	49.0	60.5
65. Esteban Batista, ATL (Rookie)	22.96	22.05	+0.91	57	8.7	1.8	2.5	0.1	42.5	62.3
58. Kris Humphries, UTA 	29.97	29.82	+0.15	62	10.0	3.0	2.5	0.5	37.9	52.3
72. Bo Outlaw, ORL 	10.36	8.65	+1.71	32	11.1	2.3	2.4	0.4	60.3	62.5
84. Vin Baker, LAC 	-8.96	-17.79	+8.83	8	10.6	3.4	2.4	0.5	46.7	72.2
63. Shavlik Randolph, PHI (Rookie)	24.47	23.87	+0.60	57	8.5	2.3	2.3	0.3	45.4	60.6
77. Brandon Bass, NO (Rookie)	2.42	1.97	+0.45	29	9.2	2.3	2.3	0.1	40.0	63.2
67. Michael Bradley, PHI 	15.09	16.51	-1.42	46	8.0	1.5	2.3	0.4	40.5	66.7
61. Fabricio Oberto, SA (Rookie)	27.43	27.49	-0.06	59	8.3	1.7	2.1	0.5	47.3	55.6
49. Hakim Warrick, MEM (Rookie)	38.74	38.02	+0.72	68	10.6	4.1	2.1	0.4	44.3	66.1
83. Chris Taft, GS (Rookie)	-5.28	-4.28	-1.00	17	8.5	2.8	2.1	0.1	60.5	16.7
66. Wayne Simien, MIA (Rookie)	17.11	15.99	+1.12	43	9.6	3.4	2.0	0.2	48.3	88.2
54. Pat Garrity, ORL 	32.61	35.35	-2.74	57	16.5	4.9	1.9	0.7	41.7	81.1
73. Walter McCarty, LAC 	7.12	4.12	+3.00	36	9.8	2.4	1.9	0.6	33.3	57.1
81. Dale Davis, DET 	-2.32	-1.82	-0.50	28	6.4	0.9	1.9	0.2	37.5	53.3
59. Zarko Cabarkapa, GS 	29.67	30.47	-0.80	61	8.3	3.3	1.8	0.3	38.5	71.4
69. Corliss Williamson, SAC 	13.57	14.57	-1.00	37	9.8	3.4	1.8	0.4	41.7	77.6
74. Eric Williams, TOR 	5.51	6.51	-1.00	28	12.6	3.2	1.8	0.5	38.7	73.7
79. Sean Marks, SA 	1.28	1.53	-0.25	25	7.2	3.2	1.7	0.3	52.1	58.3
47. Brian Scalabrine, BOS 	40.63	39.48	+1.15	71	13.2	2.9	1.6	0.7	38.3	72.2
75. Calvin Booth, WAS 	5.44	6.44	-1.00	33	7.6	1.4	1.6	0.4	42.6	55.6
86. Maciej Lampe, HOU 	-28.44	-27.44	-1.00	6	4.7	0.7	1.5	0.3	18.2	0.0
85. Jamal Sampson, SAC 	-13.02	-12.02	-1.00	12	3.2	0.8	1.5	0.4	71.4	0.0
71. Brian Cardinal, MEM 	12.13	9.73	+2.40	36	11.2	3.4	1.5	0.9	41.4	70.4
78. Andray Blatche, WAS (Rookie)	1.96	2.65	-0.69	29	6.0	2.2	1.3	0.3	38.8	83.3
82. Jason Maxiell, DET (Rookie)	-4.02	-7.23	+3.21	26	6.1	2.3	1.1	0.1	42.6	33.3


oohah



[Edited by - oohah on 29-09-2006 5:40 PM]
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9/29/2006  5:28 PM
Posted by Panos:
Posted by fishmike:

so we have established "threatening" means little to nothing. Anyway they real concern is why oohah is so preoccupied with my ass or anyone elses around here.

You beat me to it fish. This whole thing is idiotic. I love how he claims to really be manning up with a statement that is by his own definition complete milque-toast.

It is oohah's opinion that Frye is going to have a pretty good season. Incredible news!!

Why are we wasting electrons on this?



Panos, you are one of those guys.

What kind of guys?

The kind who do nothing but deride the opinions of others while rarely venturing to provide one of their own.

oohah: I believe Frye will have a season where he gets serious all-star consideration:

Panos AHHHH-HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! I can't believe you believe you think that!! How stupid!!!! Oh geez!! HEHEHEHEHEHEHEE!

oohah: I believe that this team is back on track, and should be decent this year.

Panos HAW-HAW-HAW-HAW How could you think that! Keep on flip-floppin!

oohah:Well what do you think? Let's hear it?

Panos [CRICKETS] [SILENCE] [DISAPPEARING ACT]

Why don't you speak up and say something rather than simply taking shots at people or asking question upon question hoping to find something to ridicule? Or even, go ahead ridicule away, but say something in the meantime? If you disagree with someone and you care to reply, why not back it up if you can?

whatcha 'fraid of? Somebody like you?

oohah





[Edited by - oohah on 29-09-2006 5:38 PM]
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9/29/2006  5:31 PM
Posted by fishmike:

dumbest thread ever... shame on me for contributing



I've searched this thread from top to bottom, but I still cannot find your contribution...shame on me for looking.

oohah

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9/29/2006  6:49 PM
Oohah's OWNING the critics! I'm impressed!
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9/29/2006  9:50 PM
Posted by oohah:

I cannot find the rebounds per minute averages sorted by pf

That would be the important part. Sorry for not spending my day at work searching the internet for stats. I've seen the stats before, I just don't recall where.
Frye is at worst an average rebounder

That's been my argument the whole time. Glad we agree.
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http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/statistics?stat=nbarebound&qual=true&qual=true&sort=totreb&league=nba&split=0&season=2006&seasontype=2&seasontype=2&avg=48&pos=all
Sorted by per 48.....per minute stats are stupid.

1 Dwight Howard, ORL 82 36.9 288 3.5 734 9.0 1022 12.5 16.2
2 T. Chandler, CHI 79 26.8 265 3.4 449 5.7 714 9.0 16.2
3 Erick Dampier, DAL 82 23.5 273 3.3 367 4.5 640 7.8 15.9
4 Kevin Garnett, MIN 76 38.9 214 2.8 752 9.9 966 12.7 15.7
5 Ben Wallace, DET 82 35.2 301 3.7 622 7.6 923 11.3 15.4
6 Tim Duncan, SAS 80 34.8 231 2.9 650 8.1 881 11.0 15.2
7 J. Magloire, MIL 82 30.1 220 2.7 558 6.8 778 9.5 15.1
8 Drew Gooden, CLE 79 27.5 237 3.0 428 5.4 665 8.4 14.7
9 Nazr Mohammed, SAS 80 17.4 163 2.0 255 3.2 418 5.2 14.4
10 Troy Murphy, GSW 74 34.0 195 2.6 548 7.4 743 10.0 14.2
11 Shawn Marion, PHO 81 40.3 249 3.1 710 8.8 959 11.8 14.1
12 Chris Kaman, LAC 78 32.8 187 2.4 563 7.2 750 9.6 14.1
13 Eddie Griffin, MIN 70 19.4 107 1.5 282 4.0 389 5.6 13.7
14 Kenny Thomas, SAC 82 28.0 199 2.4 419 5.1 618 7.5 12.9
15 Chris Wilcox, LAC/SEA 77 19.9 118 1.5 292 3.8 410 5.3 12.9
16 M. Ruffin, WAS 76 13.3 122 1.6 149 2.0 271 3.6 12.8
17 Dan Gadzuric, MIL 74 12.0 91 1.2 141 1.9 232 3.1 12.6
18 Z. Ilgauskas, CLE 78 29.3 245 3.1 346 4.4 591 7.6 12.4
19 Chris Webber, PHI 75 38.6 184 2.5 557 7.4 741 9.9 12.3
20 Elton Brand, LAC 79 39.2 236 3.0 554 7.0 790 10.0 12.2
21 Udonis Haslem, MIA 81 30.8 167 2.1 467 5.8 634 7.8 12.2
22 Mehmet Okur, UTH 82 35.9 211 2.6 535 6.5 746 9.1 12.2
23 A. McDyess, DET 82 21.2 156 1.9 280 3.4 436 5.3 12.1
24 Zaza Pachulia, ATL 78 31.4 264 3.4 349 4.5 613 7.9 12.0
25 Etan Thomas, WAS 71 15.7 99 1.4 180 2.5 279 3.9 12.0
26 B. Haywood, WAS 79 23.7 200 2.5 267 3.4 467 5.9 11.9
27 DeSagana Diop, DAL 81 18.6 145 1.8 229 2.8 374 4.6 11.9
28 Andrew Bogut, MIL 82 28.6 189 2.3 384 4.7 573 7.0 11.7
29 Kwame Brown, LAL 72 27.5 182 2.5 291 4.0 473 6.6 11.5
30 D. Marshall, CLE 81 25.6 105 1.3 387 4.8 492 6.1 11.4
31 Dirk Nowitzki, DAL 81 38.1 115 1.4 613 7.6 728 9.0 11.3
32 Chris Bosh, TOR 70 39.3 204 2.9 443 6.3 647 9.2 11.3
33 L. Wright, MEM 78 21.7 142 1.8 253 3.2 395 5.1 11.2
34 A. Jamison, WAS 82 40.1 167 2.0 598 7.3 765 9.3 11.2
35 Zach Randolph, POR 74 34.4 193 2.6 399 5.4 592 8.0 11.2
36 Adonal Foyle, GSW 77 23.7 143 1.9 281 3.6 424 5.5 11.2
37 Malik Rose, NYK 72 15.5 84 1.2 175 2.4 259 3.6 11.1
38 Eddy Curry, NYK 72 26.0 145 2.0 287 4.0 432 6.0 11.1
39 P.J. Brown, NOR 75 31.8 182 2.4 365 4.9 547 7.3 11.0
40 Lamar Odom, LAL 80 40.3 181 2.3 557 7.0 738 9.2 11.0
41 Pau Gasol, MEM 80 39.2 191 2.4 522 6.5 713 8.9 10.9
42 A. Nocioni, CHI 82 27.3 89 1.1 411 5.0 500 6.1 10.7
43 C. Villanueva, TOR 81 29.2 181 2.2 340 4.2 521 6.4 10.6
44 Danny Granger, IND 78 22.6 131 1.7 253 3.2 384 4.9 10.5
45 David West, NOR 74 34.1 168 2.3 380 5.1 548 7.4 10.4
46 F. Elson, DEN 72 21.9 99 1.4 240 3.3 339 4.7 10.3
47 Juwan Howard, HOU 80 31.7 168 2.1 367 4.6 535 6.7 10.1
48 Brad Miller, SAC 79 37.0 122 1.5 493 6.2 615 7.8 10.1
49 Josh Smith, ATL 80 31.8 176 2.2 355 4.4 531 6.6 10.0
50 Nenad Krstic, NJN 80 30.8 182 2.3 331 4.1 513 6.4 10.0

Frye isn't in the top 50. Malik Rose even averaged the same per 48 as our savior center.
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9/29/2006  10:23 PM

That's been my argument the whole time. Glad we agree.

Geez Solace, my bad. I did not understand when you wrote:
Above average for a rookie in defense and rebounding? Efficiency-wise he's not, when it comes to rebounding, unless you're comparing him against guards, which would be ridiculous. His defense is above-average for a rookie? I see no evidence of that, either. Maybe his defense is above-average against undrafted players who were rookies and failed to last three years in the league.

Ahh, the spinning....

You really meant "Frye is a at worst an average rebounder".

Now who is spinning?

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^^

JOe, I looked at your link, I think you missed this part:

"*To qualify: a player must be on pace to play 70 games or collect 800 rebounds."

Frye only played 65 games, and at an average of 5.8 per game, he did not collect 800 boards.

However, if you look at his average of 5.8 boards at 24.2 minutes per game (I am now going to drop the .2 from the 24 for the sake of easy math.) and that gets you 11.6 rebounds per 48 minutes.

That would put him at #20 on the list, right ahead of Kwame Brown. If you factor in the .2 minutes that I did not, maybe he is #21 or #22 in rebounds per minute compared to the rest of the NBA.

That is better than Chris Bosh, Nowitzki, Gasol, Jamison, Odom, Zach Randolh, and Rasheed Wallace.

Channing Frye is a decent rebounder.

Have we put this to rest yet?

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http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/statistics?stat=nbarebound&league=nba&split=0&sort=totreb&avg=48&qual=true&season=2006&seasontype=2&pos=r
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^^^

Those are the rookie stats right wsdm? Thanks for the assist.

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Channing Frye 2005-2006 stats:


2005-06	NY 65 24.2 4.7 9.9 47.7 0.1 0.1 33.3 2.9 3.5 82.5 2.1 3.6 5.8 0.8 1.5 0.5 0.7 3.1 12.3


Let's say he doesn't get any better (Or worse), and pulls down the 35 minutes he should get (And should have gotten):

Projected over 35 minutes:

17.78 points, 8.4 rebounds, 1 block, 1 assist, .7 steals.

That's if he hasn't gotten any better.

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Posted by oohah:

Channing Frye 2005-2006 stats:


2005-06	NY 65 24.2 4.7 9.9 47.7 0.1 0.1 33.3 2.9 3.5 82.5 2.1 3.6 5.8 0.8 1.5 0.5 0.7 3.1 12.3


Let's say he doesn't get any better (Or worse), and pulls down the 35 minutes he should get (And should have gotten):

Projected over 35 minutes:

17.78 points, 8.4 rebounds, 1 block, 1 assist, .7 steals.

That's if he hasn't gotten any better.

The future's so bright, I gotta wear shades...

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And if he has a sophomore slump?
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Posted by islesfan:
Posted by oohah:

Channing Frye 2005-2006 stats:


2005-06	NY 65 24.2 4.7 9.9 47.7 0.1 0.1 33.3 2.9 3.5 82.5 2.1 3.6 5.8 0.8 1.5 0.5 0.7 3.1 12.3


Let's say he doesn't get any better (Or worse), and pulls down the 35 minutes he should get (And should have gotten):

Projected over 35 minutes:

17.78 points, 8.4 rebounds, 1 block, 1 assist, .7 steals.

That's if he hasn't gotten any better.

The future's so bright, I gotta wear shades...

oohah

And if he has a sophomore slump?



You tell me...

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