Posted by rvhoss:

they are going to play.

Posted by Swishfm3:



exactly...every player does it.

and as far as the "team" quitting.....I don't think they did. But that's my opinion...To say Marbs or Nate "quit" because they only shot a certain amount of times is ridiculous. How many times has Shaq shot the ball below his avg in a game? Did we/media ever call him a quitter or suggest he has some sort of secret agenda?

The fact is....All your favorite sport reporters were predicting this Knick team to reach the playoffs this past season under Brown.....when things fell apart they all blamed Thomas....when Steph made that "Starbury" comment, they all blamed him and the players.....and when Brown got fired and they all took a step back and finally saw the big picture, they all said, "Maybe Brown did sabortage the season for whatever reason"

regardless of what stage you're on...if you're a bad coach the players are not going to play to their full potential cuz their mnd is not going to on the game....so in conclusion...fcuk Zo and Shaq.

I think what Bip was trying to say with the "every player fueds with coaches" comment, is that all players do fued with their coaches but in the end, most of the time they go out there and they play their butts off anyway, not sink into a shell and quit like these Knicks did last year. What do you think Marbury was doing when he he didn't shoot the ball in Orlando, he was pouting and that was his way of getting Larry to see his displeasure, I'm surprised more fans aren't upset with this. That was a game the Knicks could have won if Stephon had actually decided to show up, but instead he wanted to be a baby and prove his point by stomping his foot and hiding in the corner instead of being a man and going out and showing the coach what you can do on the court.

I can't personally recall once that Shaq has ever let his distractions with a coach get in the way of his performance on the court, because thats not the kind of player Shaq is. Anyone comparing Shaq to Stephon Marbury is nuts, there is no comparison. Shaq was a young player when that happened and he LEARNED from it, something Marbury still has yet to do. Shaq's fued with Kobe also never got in the way of Shaq being the player he is, they won 3 championships together. Don't compare Shaq and Marbury.

I don't get how some of you guys put no blame on the players for last year. Last year WAS NOT the first year the Knicks have been playing badly, it's been going on for YEARS now, Larry was just another coach that our primadona PG couldn't play for, add him to the list of Lenny, Herb, D'Antoni, Byron Scott, Flip Saundes. Larry didn't coach his best last year, we all know that, but the players have been a problem here for a long time and until the cancers known as Marbury and Francis are gone, these Knicks aren't going ANYWHERE.

[Edited by - nyk4ever on 08-24-2006 12:54 PM]

Posted by EnySpree:

You guys sound like you have been hurt too many times by women and now hang at the gay bar.

Dudes, its just sports. I don't are anything other than that. Some of you guys take it past that.

I just don't understand where some of you get off implying that a lot of is worship the players and losing. Last year should have been a big step ahead, but the team took the ultimate step backwards. Still guys like shaq and zo come out of know where with some comments and guys want to agree with guys that are winners. That is just gay.

Open your eyes. Brown is a loser too. Anyone are the opening day starting line-up? From day one brown was screwing around. I don't want to be bringing up a whole mess of reasons why brown sucked cuz we been through it. Last year was a shame. It was a very strange year. No one will know if brown really did try to con the knicks. It sure looked like it.

Why do people still say brown could have helped this team after what went on last year?

Right now the reality is the knicks are a year older, they have a system that fits the players. The rotations look to be set already. All we gotta do is play the games. That's all its about. If the knicks win 23 games again next year then we can run down town with a bulldozer and destroy the garden.

The fun of the game is to talk about how the team can get better. All people want to talk about is how sick they are of being hurt. This Larry brown bs is the dumbest **** ever cuz the proof is documented with the NBA record 40 plus starting line-ups. This team didn't need that, they needed consistancy from their coach to be consistant on the court. That is simple mathmatics.

Posted by EnySpree:

You guys sound like you have been hurt too many times by women and now hang at the gay bar.

Dudes, its just sports. I don't are anything other than that. Some of you guys take it past that.

I just don't understand where some of you get off implying that a lot of is worship the players and losing. Last year should have been a big step ahead, but the team took the ultimate step backwards. Still guys like shaq and zo come out of know where with some comments and guys want to agree with guys that are winners. That is just gay.

Open your eyes. Brown is a loser too. Anyone are the opening day starting line-up? From day one brown was screwing around. I don't want to be bringing up a whole mess of reasons why brown sucked cuz we been through it. Last year was a shame. It was a very strange year. No one will know if brown really did try to con the knicks. It sure looked like it.

Why do people still say brown could have helped this team after what went on last year?

Right now the reality is the knicks are a year older, they have a system that fits the players. The rotations look to be set already. All we gotta do is play the games. That's all its about. If the knicks win 23 games again next year then we can run down town with a bulldozer and destroy the garden.

The fun of the game is to talk about how the team can get better. All people want to talk about is how sick they are of being hurt. This Larry brown bs is the dumbest **** ever cuz the proof is documented with the NBA record 40 plus starting line-ups. This team didn't need that, they needed consistancy from their coach to be consistant on the court. That is simple mathmatics.