I'm sure you know I can't stand that Randy JOhnston extension.

He made a good trade for Vasqez way back for a first baseman in Nick JOhnson who didn't have much of a future here b/c of Giambi. It's not Cashmans fault that Javiez pulled a Kenny Rogers and couldn't pitch here.

And it's
No, but it is his fault for giving a huge contract to Pavano when had only one good season. I do think the team is FINALLY on the right track after five years that I'd rather forget.
[quote] And again I state, Cashman has been everything that I have been preaching for with the minor leaguers and seems to have convinced Steinbrenner to go with this.

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Posted by crzymdups:

the thing the Knicks need to do is build a team that compliments one another. all we heard is that this team had too many guys who needed the ball to be effective, etc. Jefferies does not need the ball to be effective and fits into the running team this roster is molding into. he plays defense as well. will he mesh with the other guys? that's always impossible to tell until you see it on the court, but this team has plenty of offensive talent, it needs glue guys who make the team concept work. I'm not against this move at all.

but I do think Washington is matching this offer.

I agree. Jeffries doesnt need the ball to be productive. He would be a good fit. I doubt Washington matches. My only real fear is everything Isiah does usually sucks, so I'm wondering whats going to be wrong with Jeffries.

Its always a good laugh when people compare Isiah's moves to things the Yankees do. Thanks for that

What's the laugh? I bet Isiah could do as well (.550ish winning %, 0 championships) as Cashman's done over the past 5 years with no salary rules.

That's great. However, he's shown an INABILITY to adjust the salary cap rules that exist in the sport he's GMing for. But it's nice to know he'd be a good baseball GM. Maybe he should go try that.

(P.S.: I like the Jeffries signing overall, for the record)

It was more a comment on how awful Cashman has been over the past five years given salary rules and all the money he has than praise for Isiah. Cashman's made a couple of nice moves over the past few days, though. Maybe he'll turn it around. I can only hope!

Really? I guess you aren't aware that Cash didn't make most of the player personnel decisions over the last few years. He was only granted that power in his last contract that he signed in October.

It was the Tampa faction, led by George, who has been unduly influenced by Emslie and Connors, that made the stupid decisions.

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Posted by crzymdups:

the thing the Knicks need to do is build a team that compliments one another. all we heard is that this team had too many guys who needed the ball to be effective, etc. Jefferies does not need the ball to be effective and fits into the running team this roster is molding into. he plays defense as well. will he mesh with the other guys? that's always impossible to tell until you see it on the court, but this team has plenty of offensive talent, it needs glue guys who make the team concept work. I'm not against this move at all.

but I do think Washington is matching this offer.

I agree. Jeffries doesnt need the ball to be productive. He would be a good fit. I doubt Washington matches. My only real fear is everything Isiah does usually sucks, so I'm wondering whats going to be wrong with Jeffries.

Its always a good laugh when people compare Isiah's moves to things the Yankees do. Thanks for that

What's the laugh? I bet Isiah could do as well (.550ish winning %, 0 championships) as Cashman's done over the past 5 years with no salary rules.

That's great. However, he's shown an INABILITY to adjust the salary cap rules that exist in the sport he's GMing for. But it's nice to know he'd be a good baseball GM. Maybe he should go try that.

(P.S.: I like the Jeffries signing overall, for the record)

It was more a comment on how awful Cashman has been over the past five years given salary rules and all the money he has than praise for Isiah. Cashman's made a couple of nice moves over the past few days, though. Maybe he'll turn it around. I can only hope!

Really? I guess you aren't aware that Cash didn't make most of the player personnel decisions over the last few years. He was only granted that power in his last contract that he signed in October.

It was the Tampa faction, led by George, who has been unduly influenced by Emslie and Connors, that made the stupid decisions.

Fish convinced me that responsibility lies on the GM! I've heard the rumors you're talking about. Give me some unequivocal evidence for them.

Do you dispute that Cash's new contract granted him decision making authority for the first time? If so, here's link:

http://www.nj.com/weblogs/yankees/index.ssf?/mtlogs/njo_yankees/archives/2005_10.html

Even more interesting is that Swindal's presence in negotiations is one of the most significant indicators that Boss George's stranglehold on the Bombers is waning. Cashman probably would not return to the Yankees without assurances of complete or near-complete autonomy, especially from the Tampa faction. Not only is Cashman's likely return big news because it assures continuity and familiarity in player operations and decisions, but it is also the loudest rumor yet that George is slowly giving way to Swindal.

Once we establish that he did in fact receive this power for the first time, it doesn't take much of a logical leap to realize that he didn't have it before.

Haven't you read Joel Sherman's articles in the NY Post over the last few years? He has chronicaled the way that Cash was marginalized in the decision making process until his most recent contract.

I can't link them because the NY Post now charges for archived articles.

Cash has publicly stated, on WFAN for example, that he wanted Vlad over Sheff, and Beltran over RJ, but was overruled.

Notice the change in the Yankees negotiating strategy since Cash has taken over. He got Damon for far less than Boras originally asked for, and has held on to Hughes and Tabata, despite other GMs demanding them in every trade negotiation.

Sherman mentions that change in the Yankees' operations in today's column:

http://www.nypost.com/sports/yankees/gillick_blinks__cashman_buys_yankees_joel_sherman.htm

The interesting item, though, is that this is the second time Cashman's skill at liar's poker and his newfound power saved major assets. In the offseason, he stressed he would play Bubba Crosby in center and waited out Johnny Damon. It still cost the Yanks $52 million for four years - more than anyone else was offering - but in the recent past, the impetuousness of The Steinbrenner Yankees would have had the organization out in November offering six- and seven-year pacts for millions more.

The old Yanks would have had Abreu, as well, but 3-4 weeks ago, when the prospect price would have been steeper. As the congenitally honest Damon observed, "We did not give up what the Phillies wanted" and "If you are us, you have to make that trade."

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This is just some writer's speculation. I asked for *evidence*

Cash has publicly stated, on WFAN for example, that he wanted Vlad over Sheff, and Beltran over RJ, but was overruled.

"Overruled"? Really? I'd definitely like to see those quotes. It would somewhat change how I view Cashman.

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How is being granted decision making authority in his contract for the first time, speculation?

Words that indicate speculation about the contract are in bold:

Even more interesting is that Swindal's presence in negotiations is one of the most significant indicators that Boss George's stranglehold on the Bombers is waning. Cashman probably would not return to the Yankees without assurances of complete or near-complete autonomy, especially from the Tampa faction. Not only is Cashman's likely return big news because it assures continuity and familiarity in player operations and decisions, but it is also the loudest rumor yet that George is slowly giving way to Swindal.