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nyk4ever
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7/18/2006  11:13 PM
Posted by holfresh:
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by crzymdups:

Frye is going to be an all-star, or near all-star for the rest of his career.

I wouldn't trade Curry for Bynum either and anyone who says they would is pouting.

Why so? Why are you allowed to think that Frye is going to be a near all-star and others aren't allowed to think that Bynum is a near all-star? What makes you so elitist in this fashion?

The guy has all the skills to become a dominant beast in the post. Will he? Who knows but I see no reason why he wouldn't. He has a great work-ethic and that can go a long way.

[Edited by - nyk4ever on 07-18-2006 5:17 PM]


Dominant beast in the post..Dude don't embarrass yourself....He's third string to Kwame Brown...Think about that...If Bynum has near allstar skills, pigs can fly...


He's 18 pal. 18 years old with all the physical attributes of a top player in the NBA. I said BECOME Holfresh BECOME.

If your not going to read my posts carefully than stop commenting on them. In nowhere did I say he has any of that, I said he can BECOME. BECOME

Seriously, if you can't read posts carefully than don't comment on them anymore, your wasting everyones time.
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7/18/2006  11:29 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:

LOL. Bynum puts up multiple huge games, tremendous improvement in one year still only 18 7-2 285 pound--if he had these types of games as a NYK at this age, he would be the second coming of the basketball Jesus. We get a 6-6 player who dunks and avg 7 points 4 reb and hes Latrell sprewell JR. LOL


have

Their is no questioning his physical talent. I wish he was a Knick.. but not for Frye. The three years Bynum is on the bench.. you get three productive years from Frye.. and better commodity to trade at the end of his contract. It'd have to be Bynum with lots of interest to make it equal. Promise is just that.. a promise of no immediate return on an investment.

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7/18/2006  11:31 PM
btw, It's so cool that every thread becomes a place to take yet another shot at Balkman. What bull s h i t.
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7/18/2006  11:31 PM
Screw Bynum and the high horse someone rode him in on

He has done nothing but push Shaq and get punked in the process

Frye has had a series of 30 point games already and is a intelligent as they come

there is no comparison needed. Grye ios a Knick - Bynum a Laker

What's next ... who's better, Nate Rob or Jay Williams?
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7/18/2006  11:33 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by holfresh:
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by crzymdups:

Frye is going to be an all-star, or near all-star for the rest of his career.

I wouldn't trade Curry for Bynum either and anyone who says they would is pouting.

Why so? Why are you allowed to think that Frye is going to be a near all-star and others aren't allowed to think that Bynum is a near all-star? What makes you so elitist in this fashion?

The guy has all the skills to become a dominant beast in the post. Will he? Who knows but I see no reason why he wouldn't. He has a great work-ethic and that can go a long way.

[Edited by - nyk4ever on 07-18-2006 5:17 PM]


Dominant beast in the post..Dude don't embarrass yourself....He's third string to Kwame Brown...Think about that...If Bynum has near allstar skills, pigs can fly...


He's 18 pal. 18 years old with all the physical attributes of a top player in the NBA. I said BECOME Holfresh BECOME.

If your not going to read my posts carefully than stop commenting on them. In nowhere did I say he has any of that, I said he can BECOME. BECOME

Seriously, if you can't read posts carefully than don't comment on them anymore, your wasting everyones time.



You keep doing this...Listen, because someone does not agree wholeheartedly, does not mean they are not reading your post....I did read your post and still don't think Bynum will BECOME the allstar player that you think...

Furthermore, I do agree with you...responding to your post has proved pointless...Your arguements are usually off the wall and pointing facts to you doesn't have any effect on the conversation..The response is usually you are not reading my post..Grow Up!!!...I won't respond in the future...
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7/18/2006  11:54 PM
Posted by holfresh:

I won't respond in the future...


Thankgod, I'll finally have some sanity!
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7/19/2006  3:15 AM
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by holfresh:

I won't respond in the future...


Thankgod, I'll finally have some sanity!

Let's not reach unfounded conclusions!
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7/19/2006  4:07 AM
no here's a better one

Nate or Jarrett Jack
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7/19/2006  5:53 AM
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by holfresh:

I won't respond in the future...
Thankgod, I'll finally have some sanity!
Let's not reach unfounded conclusions!

Ooh, haha. Point for Bonn.

[Edited by - Solace on 07-19-2006 05:53 AM]
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7/19/2006  7:29 AM
Posted by crzymdups:
Posted by gunsnewing:
Posted by nyballer:

Bynum and morrison, we could have still drafted Lee to play the 4


Man can dream!

and if that somehow didn't work out we'd have a shot at Greg Oden! No Jerome James, no Curry in the equation & much lower bill at the buffet table

[Edited by - gunsnewing on 07-18-2006 5:06 PM]

Curry is 6'11" 285lbs. get over it.
If Curry shows up at 285 I will be a very happy Knick fan. He's usually in the 300s...
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7/19/2006  7:32 AM
Posted by holfresh:
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by crzymdups:

Frye is going to be an all-star, or near all-star for the rest of his career.

I wouldn't trade Curry for Bynum either and anyone who says they would is pouting.

Why so? Why are you allowed to think that Frye is going to be a near all-star and others aren't allowed to think that Bynum is a near all-star? What makes you so elitist in this fashion?

The guy has all the skills to become a dominant beast in the post. Will he? Who knows but I see no reason why he wouldn't. He has a great work-ethic and that can go a long way.

[Edited by - nyk4ever on 07-18-2006 5:17 PM]


Dominant beast in the post..Dude don't embarrass yourself....He's third string to Kwame Brown...Think about that...If Bynum has near allstar skills, pigs can fly...

So David Lee is garbage because he was 3rd string to Antonio Davis and Mo Taylor? Same logic right?
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7/19/2006  7:39 AM
Posted by fishmike:
Posted by holfresh:
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by crzymdups:

Frye is going to be an all-star, or near all-star for the rest of his career.

I wouldn't trade Curry for Bynum either and anyone who says they would is pouting.

Why so? Why are you allowed to think that Frye is going to be a near all-star and others aren't allowed to think that Bynum is a near all-star? What makes you so elitist in this fashion?

The guy has all the skills to become a dominant beast in the post. Will he? Who knows but I see no reason why he wouldn't. He has a great work-ethic and that can go a long way.

[Edited by - nyk4ever on 07-18-2006 5:17 PM]


Dominant beast in the post..Dude don't embarrass yourself....He's third string to Kwame Brown...Think about that...If Bynum has near allstar skills, pigs can fly...

So David Lee is garbage because he was 3rd string to Antonio Davis and Mo Taylor? Same logic right?
No, he was a gem foolishly given the *role* of a garbage player
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7/19/2006  9:31 AM
But Bynum isn't???

Geeze, he's freaking 7'2" with good athletic ability and a nice skill set as well as an angry streak with a good head. Maybe you're taking a step back by trading Frye for Bynum in the short term, but then Bynum will start DOMINATING down low on both ends. People who use the "Ohh, but he played so few minutes his first season behind Kwame." aren't putting any thought into their words.
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7/19/2006  9:41 AM
Kwame Brown was taken with the same aspirations and look how great he turned out to be. Don't be the stupid dog who lost his bone in the river trying to get the reflection of the bone he already had.
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7/19/2006  9:47 AM
Posted by Allanfan20:

But Bynum isn't???

Geeze, he's freaking 7'2" with good athletic ability and a nice skill set as well as an angry streak with a good head. Maybe you're taking a step back by trading Frye for Bynum in the short term, but then Bynum will start DOMINATING down low on both ends. People who use the "Ohh, but he played so few minutes his first season behind Kwame." aren't putting any thought into their words.

Until AB shows it in the nBA[although he showed some nice signs as a 17-18 YO last year] he isn't in the class of players like frye and Lee[i dont know which one is the better player out of the 2] all I'm saying is the CEILING for this player is franchise player--there is no doubt about it in my book---put it this way, I think there is good chance that AB is a 20/22-12-4-3 player in his prime, I dont see any Knick at any position with the ability to be a 5 tool type guy who can bring a team to a championship, but I do see the ability in his raw yet burgeoning skills.
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7/19/2006  10:59 AM
Posted by fishmike:
Posted by holfresh:
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by crzymdups:

Frye is going to be an all-star, or near all-star for the rest of his career.

I wouldn't trade Curry for Bynum either and anyone who says they would is pouting.

Why so? Why are you allowed to think that Frye is going to be a near all-star and others aren't allowed to think that Bynum is a near all-star? What makes you so elitist in this fashion?

The guy has all the skills to become a dominant beast in the post. Will he? Who knows but I see no reason why he wouldn't. He has a great work-ethic and that can go a long way.

[Edited by - nyk4ever on 07-18-2006 5:17 PM]


Dominant beast in the post..Dude don't embarrass yourself....He's third string to Kwame Brown...Think about that...If Bynum has near allstar skills, pigs can fly...

So David Lee is garbage because he was 3rd string to Antonio Davis and Mo Taylor? Same logic right?

even in limited minutes DLee put up a PER of 15.2. Bynum put up one of 7.2. how's that logic holding up?
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7/19/2006  11:06 AM
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by Allanfan20:

But Bynum isn't???

Geeze, he's freaking 7'2" with good athletic ability and a nice skill set as well as an angry streak with a good head. Maybe you're taking a step back by trading Frye for Bynum in the short term, but then Bynum will start DOMINATING down low on both ends. People who use the "Ohh, but he played so few minutes his first season behind Kwame." aren't putting any thought into their words.

Until AB shows it in the nBA[although he showed some nice signs as a 17-18 YO last year] he isn't in the class of players like frye and Lee[i dont know which one is the better player out of the 2] all I'm saying is the CEILING for this player is franchise player--there is no doubt about it in my book---put it this way, I think there is good chance that AB is a 20/22-12-4-3 player in his prime, I dont see any Knick at any position with the ability to be a 5 tool type guy who can bring a team to a championship, but I do see the ability in his raw yet burgeoning skills.

there are many pitfalls between being 18 and showing potential and realizing that potential around age 22-23. I think NY, and LA for that matter, are bad environments for a player of that age who has so much to learn.

Bron was 18 and ready to go. Heck, even Jermaine O'neal showed a lot more in his first season out of high school. As did Tyson and Eddy. I'm just saying Bynum has a long way to go and hasn't shown too much yet to make you think he's definitely going to avoid the pitfalls, especially at 19yrs playing in LA with a ball hog superstar and a million distractions and hangers on. I'm not rooting against him, but I also don't think LA or NY is the right market to try to develop a kid like that.
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7/19/2006  11:15 AM
Originally posted by crzymdups:

even in limited minutes DLee put up a PER of 15.2. Bynum put up one of 7.2. how's that logic holding up?
To be fair, I don't think Bynum played enough minutes to even get much of a sample. ... and he's 18! I mean, he barely played 300 minutes on the season, and those minutes were mostly a minute here, a minute there, and the occasional garbage time. Geez, if he was on the Knicks, you'd all be touting him as next coming of Wilt, so let's try to be a little objective here. Just a little! Is that asking too much?

[Edited by - Solace on 07-19-2006 11:18 AM]
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7/19/2006  11:23 AM
Originally posted by crzymdups:

Bron was 18 and ready to go. Heck, even Jermaine O'neal showed a lot more in his first season out of high school. As did Tyson and Eddy. I'm just saying Bynum has a long way to go and hasn't shown too much yet to make you think he's definitely going to avoid the pitfalls, especially at 19yrs playing in LA with a ball hog superstar and a million distractions and hangers on. I'm not rooting against him, but I also don't think LA or NY is the right market to try to develop a kid like that.
There's tons of examples of very good NBA players who didn't get much of an OPPORTUNITY their first year. Here's one you may have heard of:
Ben Wallace 1st year - 5.8 mpg, 34% FG, 1.1 ppg, 1.7 rpg, .1 ast, .24 stl, .32 blk, .53 TO, .80 PF
His stats look kind of sucky, but he barely played and it's too small of a sample to make projections. There are plenty of examples like this. Now please stop sprouting off utter BS based on a ridiculously small sample sizes.

[Edited by - Solace on 07-19-2006 11:23 AM]
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7/19/2006  11:23 AM
Posted by Allanfan20:

But Bynum isn't???

Geeze, he's freaking 7'2" with good athletic ability and a nice skill set as well as an angry streak with a good head. Maybe you're taking a step back by trading Frye for Bynum in the short term, but then Bynum will start DOMINATING down low on both ends. People who use the "Ohh, but he played so few minutes his first season behind Kwame." aren't putting any thought into their words.

You can't just masturbate to these athletic measurements. The majority of young kids with unbelievable measurements turnout to be nothing. That's why it's a poor gamble.
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