Posted by crzymdups:

Posted by gunsnewing:

Posted by BRIGGS:

Posted by crzymdups:

And one thing, I've never talked about Balkman's stats, or David Lee's. Stats in these league mean absolutely nothing. But seeing how the guys are playing I think translates a little more.

If a big guy like Sweetney or Bynum is just standing in the post and getting all his points at the foul line because he's bigger and getting calls in the summer league that he'll never get in the NBA, I'm less impressed than if I see the kind of team play the Knicks are displaying. I think that chemistry will translate more than bogus foul calls in summer league. We'll see, I guess.

People are going to look real stupid knocking on Bynum. he put up 24-7 aginst guys like warrick lawrence roberst a 7-4 275 greek C alexander johnson from fla st who many thought was going top 20 this year etc... bynum is 18 year old and putting up 24 and 7 aginst these guys who are 3-4-5 years older. you can teach 7-2 290 and athletic and I wouldnt be putting a guy like that down. hes going to be better than any knick weve had since ewing.

no one is going to look dumber than Isiah Thomas & the Knicks who desperately was in need a dominant starting center in order to not only start winning games again but actually competing for a championship in the near future.

you know, Eddy Curry did some pretty amazing things in Summer League, too.

Posted by gunsnewing:

Posted by franco12:

Posted by fishmike:

can we see him against NBA competition?

Yea- I guess Ron Artest isn't really NBA competition.

in all fairness Balkman only got going once Artest called it a night. Regardless Balk held his own and thats all you can ask for out of a rookie

Posted by firefly:

2 things.

1. I think Marcus Williams actually got 34 points, 17 assists, 9 rebounds, 5 steal 0 TO's. Hey maybe he did in the same universe BRIGGS was watching the first game in.

2. I don't care if Marcus Williams is better then Balk. Balk is a defensive SF and that's what we need. I don't think pople on this board care about Marcus Williams anymore. At this point people are either thinking its just another Isiah mistake, or a solid move to provide what we need. Can we move on and support OUR player please? There is nothing to learn anymore from bringing up Williams. Lets get behind OUR team and drop this stupid ' my player is better then yours' bs. Please!?

Posted by TMS:

Posted by firefly:

2 things.

1. I think Marcus Williams actually got 34 points, 17 assists, 9 rebounds, 5 steal 0 TO's. Hey maybe he did in the same universe BRIGGS was watching the first game in.

2. I don't care if Marcus Williams is better then Balk. Balk is a defensive SF and that's what we need. I don't think pople on this board care about Marcus Williams anymore. At this point people are either thinking its just another Isiah mistake, or a solid move to provide what we need. Can we move on and support OUR player please? There is nothing to learn anymore from bringing up Williams. Lets get behind OUR team and drop this stupid ' my player is better then yours' bs. Please!?

you're completely missing the point here... it's not whether or not Balkman develops into a player that can help the Knicks fill their biggest void & win games this season, but whether or not one can say "i told you so" when another prospect grows into a player that helps another team.

hope that clears things up for you.

Posted by gunsnewing:

Posted by NYKBocker:

Posted by BRIGGS:

Posted by crzymdups:

Posted by Marv:

i always liked reezy and i still think his game's gonna develop and he's gonna bust out as a player. he's a guy who's gonna take a few years to put it all together. i'm gonna be watching for him and nelson this year. i got a feeling they're gonna develop a lot of chemisty.

i like what i see from balkman so far but it's impossible to extrapolate from these summer games to real games. in recent years sweetney and skita looked like sure all-stars from these games while bosh looked like a bust.

I loved Ariza. how many times have I bemoaned Larry Brown forcing him out of here?

but Balkman is doing stuff that will translate in the league - rebounding and finishing in traffic, running the floor, running the break, making sharp smart cuts.

if Balkman's play means nothing against guys like Ron Artest, Jason Maxiell, Kevin Martin and other actual NBA players - what does Marcus Williams playing against fringe NBDL guys mean? I think Balkman's performance means more given the level of competition in Vegas.

Balkman is the next Dennis Rodman--man I saw him destroy Ron Artest

Marcus Williams stinks hes only playing against 3 NBA players[the max amount the rules let you have] mike Gansy Pittsnogglke etc.. all BE stars avg 20-11-4 in 2 games hes nothing


Frye is the next Tim Duncan Bynum has nothing over him. Just because hes eaten up his competition that included several first round picks and a 7-4 Greek C av 20 -21.5 3 in his last two at 18 yrs old--no future there

http://www.summerproleague.com/july11game5.pdf

the knicks are great, everyone else stinks

BRIGGS - The name of this site is ultimateknicks.com

I still can't believe we drafted Frye over Bynum. Albeit Frye has done better than expected but they on 2 different planets talentwise. The only thing Frye does better than his opposition is shoot. He has no shot of defending nba PF's whereas Bynum can dominate his position

You're being sarcastic, right?
I highly doubt any GM in the league would trade a 6'11" guy who was a top 4 rookie for a high school kid with so many uncertainties and question marks. It's not that it's impossible that it would be a good trade; it would just be a poor gamble.