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Posted by holfresh:
Posted by BlueSeats:
Posted by holfresh:
All you talk about is how you don't care about Larry but let him do his thing...What he is trying to do is take control and restock the roster with older vets....How is that good for our future??
"scuse me, but aren't the reports that the guys Larry wants dumped ASAP are Marbury, Francis, Rose, Mo and james?
You know, the overpaid malcontent quitter VETERANS? Two of which are expiring contracts to begin with (Mo and Rose), the third which together with those two compose our package of assets for chasing a big fish (Francis, Mo, Jalen), the fourth of which (marbury) Lenny was said to have wanted traded too, and who most sportswriters said would be the biggest challenge of Larry's career, and who openly feuded with and opposed him? And the fifth of which even isiah admitted was a mistake?
So what do these 5 guys have in common? They're the 5 guys the majority of fans think should be moved, the guys they think Larry shouldn't have played in the first place, and they're all VETERANS. S
And still he's accused of wanting to gut the team of it's future.
Oh the mythologies that get perpetuated on a daily basis...
This seems to be Mark Berman's mythology as well...
May 15, 2006 -- Larry Brown underwent another bladder surgery last Friday and now this week he's expected to get cut again. By the Knicks.
Yes, Brown's days as Knicks coach are numbered.
According to sources, Brown is on the firing line, sources said, because he never acknowledged the talent assembled was better than their 23-59 record. Brass is worried it can't acquire the type of players Brown needs to win.
Owner James Dolan and Garden president Steve Mills believe the Knicks will be hard pressed to ransack the roster to Brown's liking. Hence the Knicks are exploring a divorce because of a irreconcible differences on the quality of the assembled cast.
Nearly four weeks after their tragic season ended, Dolan is expected to seek a buyout settlement this week, with president Isiah Thomas the leading candidate to inherit the coaching reins, taking over in a dual role.
In a bizarre irony, Brown went under the knife Friday in one last attempt to correct his bladder problem, The Post has learned. Brown's health has been a major issue the past two seasons. "He got out of the hospital on Friday, so I haven't spoken to him," Knicks assistant coach Phil Ford said. "I called to wish him well but he's recuperating from the operation. We were told the operation was a success." (Brown's condition forced him to use a catheter.)
According a source, the Knicks have not yet approached Brown's agent, Joe Glass, who was blindsided by a phone call about Peter Vecsey's front-page story in the Sunday Post that Dolan is considering buying out Brown and replacing him with Thomas, citing a high-level team source.
Unless this bad marriage can be repaired quickly, Brown's Knick tenure will last one season and he will own the worst career winning percentage in Knick coaching history (.280).
The Knicks did not deny Vecsey's story. "We're not going to comment on it," said Garden spokesman Barry Watkins. "We're not going to comment until when and if there's something to comment on."
Negotiations could turn ugly, knowing Glass' hard-line style, as he'll probably want the full money. Brown would be owed close to $40 million if the Knicks just fire him. But Brown could be amenable to taking less because of his age (65), health woes and the Kings' job opening. Brown's wife, Shelly, is from California. The Knicks begin their predraft workouts at their Westchester practice facility next Monday and would like to have Brown's future ironed out before then.
"I have no comment and that doesn't confirm or disconfirm (the story)," Glass told The Post. "I'm not going to comment on something I haven't read or intend to read. I'm not going to comment on any conversations I've had with Isiah Thomas over the past year."
In Memphis in March, Dolan was asked if he expected more results after paying $50 million for Brown. The Knicks owner said tellingly, "That's a misnomer. I've only spent two-thirds of one season."
The organization was astounded the club finished with 10 fewer wins than last season after adding Eddy Curry, Jalen Rose and Steve Francis. Brown, who broke the NBA record for most starting lineups (43), was often critical of the roster's makeup.
Brown's removal would be a horrible reflection on the Hall-of-Fame coach, illustrating how difficult he is to work with. Two owners in a span of 10 months wanted nothing to do with him anymore. Even after leading the Pistons to two straight Finals, Pistons owner Bill Davidson wanted him gone.
While it would seem a gigantic financial hit to the Knicks, a league source pointed out keeping Brown would cause the player payroll to expand even more. One of Brown's wishes in upgrading the roster is trading for Kenyon Martin and his $70 million contract, despite his bad knees and bad attitude.
According to a source, Thomas feels he cannot satisfy Brown's demands of making major trades, despite a serious inquiry into Chicago's Ben Gordon. "Look at their roster, who can they trade other than the young guys and get something good back," said another league source who has spoken to Thomas about the matter.
That source said Thomas does not want to trade his three first-round selections from last year - Nate Robinson, David Lee and Channing Frye, nor Eddy Curry. He also does not believe he can get close to value on Stephon Marbury, whom Brown also wants dealt. That Marbury and Brown had a bitter feud doesn't help Brown's cause. Plus, several players quit on Brown during the season. Bringing roughly the same crew back could spell disaster. The Knicks have two late first-round picks. Brown said in March he'd rather package them because they had enough young players.
During breakup day April 19, Thomas was in a subdued mood when he said lukewarmly Brown would return
It would help if you'd at least highlight the parts you find relevant.
I assume it's this:
While it would seem a gigantic financial hit to the Knicks, a league source pointed out keeping Brown would cause the player payroll to expand even more. One of Brown's wishes in upgrading the roster is trading for Kenyon Martin and his $70 million contract, despite his bad knees and bad attitude.
According to a source, Thomas feels he cannot satisfy Brown's demands of making major trades, despite a serious inquiry into Chicago's Ben Gordon. "Look at their roster, who can they trade other than the young guys and get something good back," said another league source who has spoken to Thomas about the matter.
That source said Thomas does not want to trade his three first-round selections from last year - Nate Robinson, David Lee and Channing Frye, nor Eddy Curry. He also does not believe he can get close to value on Stephon Marbury, whom Brown also wants dealt. That Marbury and Brown had a bitter feud doesn't help Brown's cause. Plus, several players quit on Brown during the season. Bringing roughly the same crew back could spell disaster. The Knicks have two late first-round picks. Brown said in March he'd rather package them because they had enough young players.
Well, yeah, we happen to have a glut undesirable, unmovable pieces that probably need to have incentives added on to be movable. We also have a full roster now with draft picks to be added, decisions are going to have to be made one way or another. But that doesn't mean Browns aim is to gut the team of youth, just to rid us of the cancers and make some sense of an ill-fit roster - something I wish Isiah had done in the first place. |
5/19/2006 2:29 PM