Posted by nyk4ever:

Posted by holfresh:

Posted by nyk4ever:

Holfresh. How do you still not understand this. This team is made up of players that have been career losers everyplace they've been aside from Malik Rose. These players have been run out of town with other teams with no results to show for it. If you want to say that Larry Brown has been run out of town then fine, but atleast he has something to show for it while he's been with the teams. I don't understand why you think that this team is somehow all the sudden going to shed their losing ways and start playing for Isiah Thomas. Why would these players do that? This is why I want Brown here, if he's here then that means that this collection of glorified losers is gone and that is what this organization needs.

Bro, of 30 teams in the NBA, only one wins, all the others are losers...Humor me...lets say we do this...Let build a team with Malik Rose,Brent Barry, Deaven George,Robert Horry and Sam Casell...Does this make them a championship team...All these guys have rings???

Do you think Malik Rose is better than Elton Brand because he has a ring??..Would you prefer Malik at your PF becasue he won before???

What does that have to do with anything. Where did I say that only players that have won championships are players that I want. See this is whats wrong with you, you someone with a certains position on a subject matter and you immediately base all of your arguments on that position. The only thing I mentioned was that the players were career losers, I never said anything about wanting to bring players that have only won championships. Your putting words in my mouth that aren't there.

I said that players like Marbury and Francis have done nothing in their careers and not only have they done nothing they've been known team cancers. How can having 2 cancers on one roster be a positive thing? Brown won't accept that and I feel he has good reason.

By the way. If you threw a team of Cassel, Horry, Rose, George with Eddy Curry, Channing Frye and David Lee I think you got a pretty decent team right there. Like it or not those guys know how to win and thats a factor just like scoring 20pts and recording 8 assists is.

Dude, the fact that these guys have made it to the NBA and are playing at this level makes them all winners...Career losers? These guys have been successful at every level...You are still making excuse for this past season...This is a better than a 23 win team....This past season was about the coach not adapting or not wanting to adapt...He has his own agenda...Trust me, I am a Knick fan more than anything else...More than love for players, coaches and GM...This year it was up to Brown to build cohesion, playing the new core together, he didn't do that..He had his own thing going...Because of that, we are not too sure what Isiah brought in...Much as I would love to judge him, i can't...I don't know if Curry can play with a 5th or 6 th foul...I don't know if the new Craw can play well next to Steph...I don't know if Steph and Frye can run the pick and roll the way he did with KVH and Doleac...I don't know if Fyre and Curry can be a threat up front when they learn to play together...bro there are many questions unanswered this past season becasue Brown had his own agenda...Now you think we should let him back to run this team again....amazing...Somehow he will be different this year...


[Edited by - holfresh on 05-18-2006 12:54 AM]

Dolan has been one of the most patient owners in sports in the moderm era...What would cause him to run a prized coach like Larry Brown out of town..Surely he must know that if anyone can turn this around, it's Larry Brown..What could have go wrong for him to want to eat 40 mil just to get rid of this guy?

The stages the Knicks have been traveling through have beem: Good to average to mediocre to bad to horrible. Obviously that's Larry Brown's fault.

Posted by holfresh:



Dolan has been one of the most patient owners in sports in the moderm era...What would cause him to run a prized coach like Larry Brown out of town..Surely he must know that if anyone can turn this around, it's Larry Brown..What could have go wrong for him to want to eat 40 mil just to get rid of this guy?

Most pateient? 5 coaches in 2.5 years? in 7 years, 3 GM's?

Why run Larry out? Money! Cuz to do it right you have to admit your mistakes and move forward. Isiah really phuched this one up and maybe they are right. To do it right and get larry what he wants, it would cost too much. But when does it end?

"Zeke" (code word for Isiah suck up) is a lose cannon and messed up bad.

dolan should set his financial constraints an stick to a plan. Isiah works within those parameters. It seems Isiah sweet talks Dolan into all kind of things. This teams a disaster becasue of the players make up. THe veterans save Malik are a collection by disaster.

Larry is just yet another symptom of a system gone wrong. Very wrong.

Posted by Bippity10:

It's gotten so bad here in NY that even when guys who helped us to finals speak up we tell them to shut up and leave our 23 win roster alone.

At some poitn in order to win you have to listen to guys who understand what it takes to win. You don't have to trade all the guys on this roster who haven't won, but you do have to take the power away from them. And for that to happen a coach has to stage a coup. Until that happens we will continue to lose, wonder why, fire coach's and write posts dreaming of Lebron. If we do it the way we've been doing it, luck is the only way we are ever going to win.

I think that one was fired across my bow....Now I heard it all...To regain power, a coach has to stage a coup...I also heard it's hard out here for a pimp....Fire a coach and dream about LeBron....hehehehe...funny stuff...



[Edited by - holfresh on 05-18-2006 9:19 PM]

Charlie Ward is the truth. You all know the truth hurts sometimes. Knicks sucked and next year won't be no different unless the current team sing Kumbaya and start getting back to fundamentals and good ol teamwork.