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4/3/2006  11:45 PM
Posted by McK1:

a David Lee sighting!!!

saw that too!
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4/4/2006  12:15 AM
Posted by crzymdups:
Posted by McK1:

baby Pau

he reminds me more of a young KG honestly. he's going to be a superstar in the league.

hahahahahahahaaa!!!
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4/4/2006  12:18 AM
AL Horford is the best player on Florida..... Best talent by far....
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4/4/2006  12:20 AM
Posted by tkf:


hahahahahahahaaa!!!

AL Horford is the best player on Florida..... Best talent by far....

thats the best you can come up with?

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4/4/2006  12:48 AM
Posted by McK1:
Posted by tkf:


hahahahahahahaaa!!!

AL Horford is the best player on Florida..... Best talent by far....

thats the best you can come up with?


wait, I am still laughing.....

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4/4/2006  12:49 AM
Posted by tkf:
Posted by McK1:
Posted by tkf:


hahahahahahahaaa!!!

AL Horford is the best player on Florida..... Best talent by far....

thats the best you can come up with?


wait, I am still laughing.....

Ok I am done...

yup.....

Al Horford is the best player Florida has......
Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
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4/4/2006  1:29 AM
Posted by tkf:
Posted by tkf:
Posted by McK1:
Posted by tkf:


hahahahahahahaaa!!!

AL Horford is the best player on Florida..... Best talent by far....

thats the best you can come up with?


wait, I am still laughing.....

Ok I am done...

yup.....

Al Horford is the best player Florida has......

I wonder who will go higher in the draft and have a better career...hmmm...
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4/4/2006  1:41 AM
I think some are getting too excited about this Noah kid. He is fantastically talented, the most talented on the court in today's NCAA game, but I don't see him as an NBA ready player right now. He is so undeveloped muscularly, he makes David Lee look like Arnold Schwarzenegger. Jackie Butler would eat him alive. Also he is raw offensively, I don't see that he has a real game or go to move yet, he is coasting on height and athleticism. In the NBA he won't be skipping in for uncontested slams.

If he is smart he would work on his game and his strength, then he has a shot at being the number one pick in a year or two.

oohah



[Edited by - oohah on 04-04-2006 01:51 AM]
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4/4/2006  2:04 AM
Posted by oohah:

I think some are getting too excited about this Noah kid. He is fantastically talented, the most talented on the court in today's NCAA game, but I don't see him as an NBA ready player right now. He is so undeveloped muscularly, he makes David Lee look like Arnold Schwarzenegger. Jackie Butler would eat him alive. Also he is raw offensively, I don't see that he has a real game or go to move yet, he is coasting on height and athleticism. In the NBA he won't be skipping in for uncontested slams.

If he is smart he would work on his game and his strength, then he has a shot at being the number one pick in a year or two.

oohah



[Edited by - oohah on 04-04-2006 01:51 AM]

he's not gonna stay. he's a lock to go top three, top five at worst. he'll be fine at the power forward spot. of course he needs to get stronger, but he's going to skip in for plenty of open dunks in the NBA. it'll take him a few years, but he'll be fine.
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4/4/2006  2:04 AM
does noah if he comes out now have an immediate impact? I would wager no. He is still a kid. I think a good organization [like Pax'Bulls] starts him out light and lets him mature physically and mentally in a monitored environment. A bad organization writes him off as not being bettr than curry at this instant similar to the way the 04 draft was writen off to obtain Marbury and a low seed push.

but what I find really shameless is to write him off as Dan Gadz, watch him show he is actually a focal point, a leader, and then proceed to tip toe around your prior statement on the foot not lodged in your mouth and try to draw others into a Horford-Noah debate.

[Edited by - McK1 on 04-04-2006 02:05 AM]
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4/4/2006  2:19 AM
he's not gonna stay. he's a lock to go top three, top five at worst. he'll be fine at the power forward spot. of course he needs to get stronger, but he's going to skip in for plenty of open dunks in the NBA. it'll take him a few years, but he'll be fine.

He probably will go top 3 top 5 if he comes out. But the team that picks him will have to wait a few years to realize what he can be. Right now Noah is a potential pick, that is, he will picked for what he could be, not what he is. No way he can bang for rebounds in the paint at the NBA level right now, and he can't guard anyone at the power spot either. He plays way over the rim, but he won't be anywhere near the rim most of the time because he will be pushed out. And I don't see that he has a tremendous skill level like Pau Gasol did as a rookie.

Let's take Darko for a comparison. Is he better than Darko? He is actually a few months older than Darko, and Darko was way more physically developed when he was drafted, and was known for having a high skill level.

He'll come out, but I don't see that he is ready to actually play in the NBA yet.

oohah

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4/4/2006  8:51 AM
I liked Horford a lot too. Another excellent passing big man! Donovan, a Pitino disciple, really develops his big men as unselfish and skilled passers - look at Lee's abilities there! Man, does Donovan recruit guys who already show they can pass or does he develop that? Probably both, right?

And I get a real kick out of Sidney Green's kid directing the show at point! How'd he get gypped on the height gene?? He had a lot of poise out there, didn't he?

Maybe if we can't get Pitino, we can get Donovan???? Man, when he gives one of his inspirational speeches, can you imagine the look passing between Steph and Stevie???
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4/4/2006  9:22 AM
Noah can play. Over the course of the tournament, did you notice his basketball IQ- ability to set legal screens, handle the ball, pass it, run the floor and get into the right position. And how he was able to block shots so many shots cleanly with out getting into foul trouble.

He doesn't have an NBA body yet, but over the last stretch of the year and in the tournament, he impacted games like Marcus Camby. Plus he's a glue player! He keeps everyone pumped and really shows passion out there. The kid only played 9 minutes per game the year before. Obviously he has a ways to go, but he's an exciting prospect.

Horford is physical beast...great rebounder. Green can really handle the ball...Only 1 turnover against a tough defensive backcourt was really an underrated reason why Florida dominated. And Brewer was very pesky out there...reminds me of a little of Trevor Ariza with a better jumper. Billy Donavan has done an excellent job of brining in talent to that program.
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4/4/2006  9:31 AM
I don't see Pau's skill level either. They have similar builds and I see him being able to do some of the same things Pau can from the pf position. thats why I said "baby - Pau."

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4/4/2006  9:55 AM
Noah is a good kid and will make a good role player on a good team, but when I read all this ridiculous hype of how good he is going to be, because he can jump over shorter less athletic college kids make me laugh. I like Horford better, NBA body, he actually has a post game of some sort, is a good passer and Billy donovan said he hs the highest bball IQ of any player he has ever coached, not bad considering he had mike miller there also....

but what I find really shameless is to write him off as Dan Gadz, watch him show he is actually a focal point, a leader, and then proceed to tip toe around your prior statement on the foot not lodged in your mouth and try to draw others into a Horford-Noah debate.

this is the nonesense I am talking about, Dan Gadzurich was a similar player at UCLA and he actually had a post game, but we are supposed to believe that Noah will be better because some bandwagon rider feels it is shameless to compare him to a player that actually played a more refined game than he did in college? dude wake up, dan gadzurich was a good player at UCLA, go back and watch the tapes.. If noah is as good as gads is he will be lucky... very lucky...


watch him show he is actually a focal point, a leader

my lord, there are a lot of focal points and leaders out there, farmar from UCLA is one, Horford, Green are all leaders on that team, just because the kid flies around with his hair waving does not make him a leader, just because he likes to run his mouth doesn't make him a leader either, you are really putting on a good comedy act... No need to make this a Horford Noah debate, anyone in their right mind will notice the Horford is just the better player...

[Edited by - tkf on 04-04-2006 09:59 AM]
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4/4/2006  10:42 AM
Posted by tkf:

Noah is a good kid and will make a good role player on a good team


this is the nonesense I am talking about, Dan Gadzurich was a similar player at UCLA


just because the kid flies around with his hair waving does not make him a leader, just because he likes to run his mouth doesn't make him a leader either, you are really putting on a good comedy act... No need to make this a Horford Noah debate, anyone in their right mind will notice the Horford is just the better player...

[Edited by - tkf on 04-04-2006 09:59 AM]

lemme guess. these things are true because you say them? you don't have a point to make.

classic case of senseless dissension.

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4/4/2006  10:52 AM
Posted by McK1:
Posted by tkf:

Noah is a good kid and will make a good role player on a good team


this is the nonesense I am talking about, Dan Gadzurich was a similar player at UCLA


just because the kid flies around with his hair waving does not make him a leader, just because he likes to run his mouth doesn't make him a leader either, you are really putting on a good comedy act... No need to make this a Horford Noah debate, anyone in their right mind will notice the Horford is just the better player...

[Edited by - tkf on 04-04-2006 09:59 AM]

lemme guess. these things are true because you say them? you don't have a point to make.

classic case of senseless dissension.



no they are true because that is what it is. Noah, can't shoot, he is skinny, has no post moves, he runs the floor, gets dunks off of passes and plays a role, that sounds pretty much like a role player to me. To mistake this kid as some star/franchise player is not fair and almost criminal..... Stop trying to defend this position you backed yourself into the corner with. You are the only one who sees this greatness in a kid who so far hs shown that he is nothing more than a high energy player.

Dan gadzurich was a similar player and not because I said so, but because he was!!!!! what is so hard to understand about that?


classic case of senseless dissension.


classic case of, I have no real argument, so I will post this stupid ass line..

classic case of senseless dissension
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4/4/2006  11:03 AM
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hahahahahahahaaa!!!

AL Horford is the best player on Florida..... Best talent by far....

thats the best you can come up with?


wait, I am still laughing.....

Ok I am done...

yup.....

Al Horford is the best player Florida has......

I wonder who will go higher in the draft and have a better career...hmmm...


who knows, GM's make mistakes, but I like Horfords game on the next level, but you never know. Still does not mean that Horford is not the best player on that team... I mean some will argue that christian laetner was the best player at duke, but we know that grant was the better pro, so who knows, but I will take my chances with Horford ....
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4/4/2006  11:04 AM
he has an undeveloped post game so that makes him lucky to be Dan Gadzurich?

he doesn't just run the floor. pleae illustrate the amount of big men put consistently by their coach in the middle of the floor to receive and handle the rock and break down a full court press on the college or pro level. Pleas illustrate the amount of bigs given the responsibility of orchestrating out of the high post on the college or pro level.

And could it be the fact that he was a point guard who shot up 8 inches why his body and post game isn't as developed as others at his age. He is accepting the change and going out and playing like a big man.

He can develop a jumper and he can polish up his post game. His handles and court vision make him much more than just Dan Gadz. His motor heart and enthusiasm and selfless play on the court makes him a leader on that Gator team and he has the intangibles to translate to the next level.

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4/4/2006  11:30 AM
Dan Gadzuric was an enigma throughout his college career and didn't show a lot of development in 4 years of school. He was no where near the defensive force Noah is in college. Gadz barely averaged over a block a game his senior season and could not defend the perimeter the way Noah can. Gadz was also atrocious at the line, where Noah has shown himself to be very competent. He was also no where near the ball handler and passer Noah is. They are similar in build, athleticism and in the way they can rebound and score, but Noah is a far more advanced and talented prospect than Gadz was.

[Edited by - VDesai on 04-04-2006 11:31 AM]
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