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2/21/2006  6:27 PM
Posted by martin:
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Posted by tomverve:

Been keeping tabs on the realgm talk. Take it for what it's worth, but according to several supposedly insider accounts, Isiah is prepared to trade JC, Mo, and either Lee or draft pick(s) for Francis, and then do a Penny for KMart deal. *If* the reports are to be believed, then both deals are almost completely locked up.

JC+Mo for Francis is great talent-wise, but I'd be loathe to give up Lee... and I hate this KMart talk.


If we do Penny straight up for KMart then we have nothing to lose except Dolan's cash.

Isiah/Brown really want watson more than or as much as KMart.

So do I as long as his knee is in question.
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2/21/2006  6:32 PM
It looks like two trades will go down. At this point I would be shocked if we didn't get Francis. As far as Kmart, I don't know about us getting him. I think that Isiah would use Penny's contract to go after Ratliff and Miles.

[Edited by - BigC on 02-21-2006 6:33 PM]
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2/21/2006  6:35 PM
Posted by BigC:

It looks like two trades will go down. At this point I would be shocked if we didn't get Francis. As far as Kmart, I don't know about us getting him. I think that Isiah would use Penny's contract to go after Ratliff and Miles.

[Edited by - BigC on 02-21-2006 6:33 PM]

it'll all depend on the doc's report of the knees.
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2/21/2006  6:39 PM
ESPN (Rick Bucher)reporting at 6:42 PM EST-that knick deals in the works are:

1. Miles, Ratliff-- Penny and 1st round

No word on Francis but Denver at ground 0 on deals

[Edited by - TheSage on 02-21-2006 6:47 PM]
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2/21/2006  6:39 PM
some guy whos an insider and thought to be very reliable posted this on his blog...seems to have connections and ppl at realgm said he's really credible

http://insidethecode.blogspot.com/
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2/21/2006  6:41 PM
Posted by martin:
Posted by BigC:

It looks like two trades will go down. At this point I would be shocked if we didn't get Francis. As far as Kmart, I don't know about us getting him. I think that Isiah would use Penny's contract to go after Ratliff and Miles.

[Edited by - BigC on 02-21-2006 6:33 PM]

it'll all depend on the doc's report of the knees.

Is this prediction?? Something you heard?? Conjecture??
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2/21/2006  6:42 PM
Posted by martin:
Posted by BigC:

It looks like two trades will go down. At this point I would be shocked if we didn't get Francis. As far as Kmart, I don't know about us getting him. I think that Isiah would use Penny's contract to go after Ratliff and Miles.

[Edited by - BigC on 02-21-2006 6:33 PM]

it'll all depend on the doc's report of the knees.

Good points as always Martin!

The Knicks getting K-mart and his bad knees worry me more than when we were going after Curry and the his heart condition.


[Edited by - BigC on 02-21-2006 6:52 PM]
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2/21/2006  6:44 PM
docotors said k-marts knees would take up to a year to heal after his procedure....so if all is well it should work out...but...knowing our luck...ewe'll suck
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2/21/2006  6:49 PM
Posted by firefly:
Posted by martin:
Posted by BigC:

It looks like two trades will go down. At this point I would be shocked if we didn't get Francis. As far as Kmart, I don't know about us getting him. I think that Isiah would use Penny's contract to go after Ratliff and Miles.

.

Is this prediction?? Something you heard?? Conjecture??

This is more of a prediction. I find it funny that,we first were hearing that it was Penny's contract and Jamal for Francis now all of a sudden, it is Mo's contract being traded not Penny's. Isiah is saving Penny's contract for a reason. I'm thinking Isiah wants to do two big deals this dead line. Maybe Miles who Isiah has liked for a long time and Ratliff is a person Larry wants bad. So I could see the Knicks getting Francis, Miles, and Ratliff by Thursday.
it'll all depend on the doc's report of the knees







[Edited by - BigC on 02-21-2006 6:53 PM]
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2/21/2006  6:49 PM
Posted by TheSage:

ESPN (Rick Bucher)reporting at 6:42 PM EST-that knick deals in the works are:

1. Miles, Ratliff-- Penny and 1st round

No word on Francis but Denver at ground 0 on deals

See, this is interesting. Last week the deal was Frye/Penny for Miles/Theo, and then a couple days later we heard it was Lee/Penny for the same, and now it's Penny/Pick.

I stills say this is all to lower the Denver asking price of Watson/Kmart for Penny/trash (not Lee).

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2/21/2006  6:55 PM
Posted by TheSage:

ESPN (Rick Bucher)reporting at 6:42 PM EST-that knick deals in the works are:

1. Miles, Ratliff-- Penny and 1st round

No word on Francis but Denver at ground 0 on deals

[Edited by - TheSage on 02-21-2006 6:47 PM]

why do we have to give them a pick to give them in order to take their crappy contracts? if anything we should be getting a pick. darius miles aint all that.
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2/21/2006  6:57 PM
The more I think about it the more I think KMarts personality will really help this team.

Knick fans will love him for the same reason we always hated him.
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2/21/2006  6:59 PM
Posted by firefly:

The more I think about it the more I think KMarts personality will really help this team.

Knick fans will love him for the same reason we always hated him.

<nods>

it's still about his knee though.
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2/21/2006  7:03 PM
and starting at power forward for your New York Knicks, Antonioooooooo Mc(POP)oh sorry Clareeeeeence Weatherspoooooooooon!
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2/21/2006  7:33 PM
question, what if we have to give up lee, but get the rights to vasquez in return?

secondly, according to "sources", isiah has said "no" to any kmart deal.
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2/21/2006  7:38 PM
Posted by fishmike:

Crawford and Mo Taylor? Cant be right...

why? orlando is high on crawford..
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2/21/2006  7:44 PM
if we can somehow get Francis AND Kmart... I can't say I'll like it, particularly if we lose Lee, but damn, it'll be interesting to watch...
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2/21/2006  7:46 PM
steph, francis, jalen, kmart, curry

with q1, lee, frye, jerome off the bench?

that's CRAZY...and i'm not sure in a good way...
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2/21/2006  7:48 PM
Posted by djsunyc:

steph, francis, jalen, kmart, curry

with q1, lee, frye, jerome off the bench?

that's CRAZY...and i'm not sure in a good way...

the starting lineup would have a lot of offensive potential. any one of them could take over a game and score 20+.
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2/21/2006  7:50 PM
Posted by jaydh:
Posted by djsunyc:

steph, francis, jalen, kmart, curry

with q1, lee, frye, jerome off the bench?

that's CRAZY...and i'm not sure in a good way...

the starting lineup would have a lot of offensive potential. any one of them could take over a game and score 20+.
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