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if we're going to trade nate, we should do it next monday
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McK1
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2/20/2006  10:19 AM
the dunk over Spud Webb probably a top 5 NBA individual feat. Love the moment Nate provided. I feel Nate is about the individual. Game feats are different. In team competition is where the case for who has heart shows up. Guys & gals are trying to make the heart argument over something he did for individual spotlight.
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2/20/2006  10:21 AM
Posted by MinsHeartsReezy:



You can spin it any way you like but he wasn't pointing fingers and thats what team solidarity begins with. And with 15 wins...what would you have said that was so much better? WE ARE LOSERS at this point and not one person can deny that.

And if u think actions speak louder than words...who was the one person to step to Duhon after he shoved MoT. I don't care who pushed who first but what Nate showed was that is u dont mess with anyone on his team. Not one other player showed that kind of altrusim escept maybe AD but he's not here anymore. He's foolish at times yes. But hes got heart. We need more heart on this team to get through all this turmoil.

we need wiser players on this team, not braun and misplaced bravado.
the stop underrating David Lee movement 1. FIRE MIKE 2. HIRE MULLIN 3. PAY AVERY 4. FREE NATE!!!
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2/20/2006  10:27 AM
Posted by McK1:
Posted by MinsHeartsReezy:



You can spin it any way you like but he wasn't pointing fingers and thats what team solidarity begins with. And with 15 wins...what would you have said that was so much better? WE ARE LOSERS at this point and not one person can deny that.

And if u think actions speak louder than words...who was the one person to step to Duhon after he shoved MoT. I don't care who pushed who first but what Nate showed was that is u dont mess with anyone on his team. Not one other player showed that kind of altrusim escept maybe AD but he's not here anymore. He's foolish at times yes. But hes got heart. We need more heart on this team to get through all this turmoil.

we need wiser players on this team, not braun and misplaced bravado.

In other words a Veteran?
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2/20/2006  10:28 AM
Posted by djsunyc:

let's put things into perspective a little bit. this kid is 21 years old. is in his first year in the nba doing what he loves to do. his personality is that of an extrovert, excitable, and enthusiastic. and it's those traits that probably helped him make the nba in the first place b/c of his height.

so he's on a national stage, with the spotlight on him, and he's soaking it up and playing it for all it's worth.

he's a kid for pete's sake.

how is this different than kmart standing and flexing after a dunk during the course of a game? how is this different than ben wallace flexing his arms after a rebound put back?

let him have his fun. looking back on his career, this may be his highlight.

was the flexing on a dunk during a 30 point blowout a smart thing to do? nope. but guess what, he heard about it big time from lb. now let's see if he does it again.

nobody is talking about his out-goingness or his sparkplug qualities

I am referring to what he does with it.

K-Mart and Wallace - positive dispersable energy.

guys like Nate and Steph - negative self serving energy.

being 21 is not an excuse
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2/20/2006  10:29 AM
K-Mart was among the worst of the taunting and showboat players.
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2/20/2006  10:33 AM
Posted by MinsHeartsReezy:
Posted by McK1:
Posted by MinsHeartsReezy:



You can spin it any way you like but he wasn't pointing fingers and thats what team solidarity begins with. And with 15 wins...what would you have said that was so much better? WE ARE LOSERS at this point and not one person can deny that.

And if u think actions speak louder than words...who was the one person to step to Duhon after he shoved MoT. I don't care who pushed who first but what Nate showed was that is u dont mess with anyone on his team. Not one other player showed that kind of altrusim escept maybe AD but he's not here anymore. He's foolish at times yes. But hes got heart. We need more heart on this team to get through all this turmoil.

we need wiser players on this team, not braun and misplaced bravado.

In other words a Veteran?

Professionals. You don't have to have 5 years in the league to approach the game as one. Look at a guy like Delonte West - a pro from day 1.
the stop underrating David Lee movement 1. FIRE MIKE 2. HIRE MULLIN 3. PAY AVERY 4. FREE NATE!!!
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2/20/2006  10:37 AM
Posted by MinsHeartsReezy:

K-Mart was among the worst of the taunting and showboat players.

K-Mart is a showman. He makes and celebrates game changing plays.

I know you don't really believe the Nate dunk may could've changed the course of the LA game.

Nate also was rumored to have been the one to make the shot-clock statement.
the stop underrating David Lee movement 1. FIRE MIKE 2. HIRE MULLIN 3. PAY AVERY 4. FREE NATE!!!
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2/20/2006  10:56 AM
Posted by McK1:
Posted by MinsHeartsReezy:

K-Mart was among the worst of the taunting and showboat players.

K-Mart is a showman. He makes and celebrates game changing plays.

I know you don't really believe the Nate dunk may could've changed the course of the LA game.

Nate also was rumored to have been the one to make the shot-clock statement.


I never said that play would have helped in that particular game despite us getting blown out quite early. But those types of plays have the potential change the outcome of certain situations. Nate is a rookie and he's going to make many many many mistakes until be does become that "wise player" you speak of. Many things are learned through experience. But for now I dont mind him learning. I'd rather he be playing and messing up than the likes of Jerome James & M. Rose any day.
if we're going to trade nate, we should do it next monday

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